Canon Firmware

Canon announces $100 firmware update for stop-motion photography

From Canon USA:

Supercharge Your Stop Motion Animation

Whether pre-installed on a new EOS R or manually installed on an existing EOS R the new Stop Motion Animation upgrade for EOS R cameras increases your Live View resolution to 1920×1280 from Canon’s normal of 960×640 when connected to Dragonframe stop motion animation software. This makes it easier for animators to confirm focus and movement within every frame.

Larger Live View

Live view is critical to animators creating stop motion animation films. Animators use the remote live view of the camera to review critical details and make decisions within the Dragonframe software. Canon’s Stop Motion Animation firmware increases the Live View to 1920×1280 – helping animators see subtle movement for refined animation.

USB Manual Focus Peaking

Canon has added Manual Focus Peaking over USB to interface with Dragonframe software.

HDMI Output

Important information about EOS R Stop Motion Animation Firmware:
* HDMI output is not available on the EOS R with this firmware installed
* [Disp. performance] cannot be set
* MF peaking will not show up even if [MF peaking settings] is set to [On] under the following conditions:

  • When an EF-S lens is used
  • When [Multiple exposure] is set
  • When [Cropping/aspect ratio] is set to an option other than [FULL]
  • When the shooting screen is magnified
  • When you keep holding down the shutter button after shooting

Mark3794

EOS 90D
Sep 4, 2018
153
458
Guys it's a paid firmware upgrade becouse you have to send the camera to Canon, also it disables some feature of the camera. They don't want to give the update for free at home and having to deal with 10000 people calling them and saying their camera doesn't work anymore after the update.
 

Adelino

EOS RP
Jan 21, 2015
372
244
I don't understand why anyone would complain about this. Sounds like a bargain for what it will do. For me, it has nothing to do with me. I hope many creatives can use it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rixy

Trey T

EOS 90D
Feb 6, 2019
199
111
Some people don’t like options. They prefer to wait for another decade until it’s free
 

TAF

EOS RP
CR Pro
Feb 26, 2012
411
107
While this is nothing I would ever use, I find this new paradigm exciting. It suggests that Canon sees that there is the potential to make money on areas of limited appeal, which means a higher likelihood that other features may come to fruition.

For myself, I really want to see the R5 have the ability to shoot high speed video. As I've posted before, it it can do 4k@120, it should be able to do HD@480, and VGA at (if I did the math correctly) 1920 (or is that 3840?). Maybe not something every user would want or need, but I would gladly pay $100 for that ability.
 

unfocused

EOS-1D X Mark III
Jul 20, 2010
5,708
2,696
67
Springfield, IL
www.mgordoncommunications.com
While this is nothing I would ever use, I find this new paradigm exciting. It suggests that Canon sees that there is the potential to make money on areas of limited appeal, which means a higher likelihood that other features may come to fruition...
Nothing I would use. Way beyond my capabilities and I would have no patience for stop motion anyway, but it is certainly interesting and exciting that Canon is serving niche markets in a creative way with low-cost off the shelf products. Just for fun, I looked up the Dragonframe software. Very reasonably priced for a professional product. This is a great time for amateur filmmakers. I'm all for anything that opens doors and reduces the cost of entry for highly talented people.
 

Dynamics-4-U

dynamics4u
Jan 13, 2020
3
1
Germany - Bavaria
After reading along in the past years on new announcements here, finally setup to respond with a login ;)

*** There is still so much simple innovation on the floor for Canon and others to take. (Yes look at some Magic Latern creativity)

1st I think post-camera purchase upgrades -should be part of the revenue machine for camera manufactures
as it helps users to utilize the expensive silicon - image processors in new creative ways

2nd this upgrade is truly interesting, in a way it is the first for a small focus group. (As a predecessor wrote)

But as a photographer I would rather have loved a simple "Focus stacking option with AEB" in the firmware - without loosing other features. (at least with RF lenses if so needed, but would boost this sales too so it must be for free)

3rd I do technically fully understand the lightyear step and hype about the upcoming EOR R5 Video capabilities, but a message to the Canon folks I think most of us buy the EOS R and EOS R5 and EOS 5DMkx family for a prime reason and this is photography !


So all the pre-announcements are annoying, almost useless and dis-respecting the heart core guys looking for photography specs and innovation. Makes me finally after almost 28y Canon spy at Leica, yes less lenses then but same cost as an EOS R System transition.

e.g. this means for photography I would like to see these points below in a pre-announcement to make us wait
a) need to confirm more Color Depth resolution in Photography
b) how to use DP- Dual Pixel information smartly for extending the Dynamic range (SINGLE SHOT HDR, no noise in post)
I don´t know why no one realizes that since EOS 5DMK4 you have always a sensor with DUAL Pixel = MEans you
call it 30MPixel but it is already a 60MPixel sensor, call the EOS R5 eventually a 45MP but your sensor is 90MP !!!
There is way more stuff which can be done with this information - than announced since 3years ago with DPAF.
c) how to improve the auto-exposure of the camera into field based regions which are automatically choosing the exposure values
d) overdue is also image pre-processing by dynamic range automatically and steer the Pixel Sensors with this "field area"
exposure correct by content.
.... just don´t get me going

Finally my biggest wish would have been also a Firmware thing, on the EOS R to remove the biggest complaint from 5DMK4 users
a fast navigation to focus points, not just touch based, but just create the 5D Mk4 limited range but by 3-clicks x or y direction
get to the 3x3 corners of an image at a fixed position (Emulation of the 5D Mk4 focus points) Why not , fast to the spot not
thinking no navigating - also possible with the steering weel.

so much food for thought today folks.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MigueEsteves

martin_p_a

EOS RP
CR Pro
Jul 30, 2019
17
25
Montreal
3rd I do technically fully understand the lightyear step and hype about the upcoming EOR R5 Video capabilities, but a message to the Canon folks I think most of us buy the EOS R and EOS R5 and EOS 5DMkx family for a prime reason and this is photography !

So all the pre-announcements are annoying, almost useless and dis-respecting the heart core guys looking for photography specs and innovation.
I don’t know how many times this has to be repeated; the last spec announcement was made for the NAB Show (National Association of BROADCASTERS => Video), which, because of COVID-19, was cancelled. Expecting a slew of stills-centric announcement at that time is like going to Photokina and expecting news on the camera controls in the next Mario Kart game...

I also think saying the prime reason most people buy 5D’s is photography is ignoring at large chunk of the user base. With the amount of them used as b-cams and for student/indie film shoots (before moving on to RED cameras, and after playing with 16mm film camera, all the shoots at my film school were made on 5DmkII and mkIII), as well as a huge amount of people who aren’t into photography per se, but buy them as their family photo/video cameras, that’s a lot of people who buy them for video or, even more likely, for both photo and video.

Not that there isn’t anything left to divulge, but stills-wise, they started off by confirming IBIS, 12/20fps, dual card slots, animal eye AF,... and after the video specs that have been confirmed, we can infer some specs about megapixels and AF capabilities for stills, too.

With no release date and possible delays due to the state of affairs, it might be better they hold off on saying everything. Imagine we knew everything, yet the camera was delayed... the wait would feel even longer.
 
Last edited:

herein2020

Run | Gun Shooter
Mar 13, 2020
267
364
I don’t know how many times this has to be repeated; the last spec announcement was made for the NAB Show (National Association of BROADCASTERS => Video), which, because of COVID-19, was cancelled. Expecting a slew of stills-centric announcement at that time is like going to Photokina and expecting news on the camera controls in the next Mario Kart game...

I also think saying the prime reason most people buy 5D’s is photography is ignoring at large chunk of the user base. With the amount of them used as b-cams and for student/indie film shoots (before moving on to RED cameras, and after playing with 16mm film camera, all the shoots at my film school were made on 5DmkII and mkIII), as well as a huge amount of people who aren’t into photography per se, but buy them as their family photo/video cameras, that’s a lot of people who buy them for video or, even more likely, for both photo and video.

Not that there isn’t anything left to divulge, but stills-wise, they started off by confirming IBIS, 12/20fps, dual card slots, animal eye AF,... and after the video specs that have been confirmed, we can infer some specs about megapixels and AF capabilities for stills, too.

With no release date and possible delays due to the state of affairs, it might be better they hold off on saying everything. Imagine we knew everything, yet the camera was delayed... the wait would feel even longer.
You nailed it...the only thing I would add is that Canon also needs to focus on advertising the video features of the R5 because that is where they were being slammed daily by pretty much every YouTubber out there. Sony and Panasonic is eating Canon's lunch in the mirrorless video department and Canon knows it. I haven't heard too many people say they went to Sony because of weather sealing, ergonomics, the menu system, color science, or even lenses.

Most people jumped ship because YouTubbers told them that Canon's video features were doomed and their AF wasn't "innovative" enough. So yea, Canon is going to shout about their 8K video from the rooftops for as long as they can while knowing that anyone with common sense is going to take for granted that their photography specs will be fantastic as well. Even if I were strictly a stills shooter, enough R5 specs have been released for me to know its going to be a great stills camera.

e.g. this means for photography I would like to see these points below in a pre-announcement to make us wait
a) need to confirm more Color Depth resolution in Photography
b) how to use DP- Dual Pixel information smartly for extending the Dynamic range (SINGLE SHOT HDR, no noise in post)
I don´t know why no one realizes that since EOS 5DMK4 you have always a sensor with DUAL Pixel = MEans you
call it 30MPixel but it is already a 60MPixel sensor, call the EOS R5 eventually a 45MP but your sensor is 90MP !!!
There is way more stuff which can be done with this information - than announced since 3years ago with DPAF.
c) how to improve the auto-exposure of the camera into field based regions which are automatically choosing the exposure values
d) overdue is also image pre-processing by dynamic range automatically and steer the Pixel Sensors with this "field area"
exposure correct by content.
.... just don´t get me going
I doubt it will have any of those features. They are easy to talk about and wish for but we are not talking about a $20K camera here. The only Canon that even has one of those features is the $11K Canon C300 MIII and it uses the dual pixel system to increase DR. Also your logic is a little fuzzy when you state that current cameras with DPAF are actually double their stated resolution. Just because it uses two pixels to focus does not mean it suddenly has double the number of pixels...it just means what it says...it's using the image information from two pixels to focus...that does not mean that they doubled the resolution it simply means they take a reading from two different pixels.

Most if not all of the features you seem to think they will ever announce for the R5 would add substantially to the cost, would possibly require technology that is not yet ready for prime time, would definitely affect battery life, and for that slight increase in DR substantially slow the FPS. Even the C300 MIII with DP DR still only gets 16 stops of DR.

I have what I consider to be a more realistic wish list for the R5; the only parts that I'm mildly curious about in the R5 is if Canon raised their 1/200 flash sync speed, if it can do time lapses without an external intervalometer, and if it has some kind of grid or ruler guides in camera to show in the viewfinder 5:4 and 4:5 aspect ratios for Instagram; it would be really cool if you could just type in your desired aspect ratio and have grid lines in the viewfinder show that composition. Although none of these features is that big of a deal since I am used to working with the current limitations (ND filters/HSS/Bigger Flashes due to the sync speed limits, 3rd party shutter triggers for time lapses, crop space for aspect ratio changes), they would all be nice to haves that would make my workflow faster.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Chaitanya

herein2020

Run | Gun Shooter
Mar 13, 2020
267
364
I'm sure there are about 8 people who are thrilled over this "upgrade."
Sounds like Canon is going to squeeze $800 more out of the R. This niche is so small I'm surprised Canon decided it was worth the R&D. I never understood the EOS Ra either but even that is more understandable than this, maybe this was just some bored Canon firmware engineer cooped up during quarantine who had nothing else to do with his/her time but still had to log hours on the timesheet.

I feel sorry for whoever ends up buying one of these used with this firmware.
 
Last edited:

Cochese

EOS 90D
Oct 22, 2014
143
89
Sounds like Canon is going to squeeze $800 more out of the R. This niche is so small I'm surprised Canon decided it was worth the R&D. I never understood the EOS Ra either but even that is more understandable than this, maybe this was just some bored Canon firmware engineer cooped up during quarantine who had nothing else to do with his/her time but still had to log hours on the timesheet.

I feel sorry for whoever ends up buying one of these used with this firmware.
This upgrade was made in conjunction with a specific software maker.