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A Canon EVIL?
A new rumor has appeared the web about Canon announcing an EVIL camera.
From DPR
Apparently Canon will unveil soon an EVIL system smaller than m4/3.It'll be based on the APS-C sensor, apparently same sensor as the 7D, but with a reduced Image Circle, 18mm
– It'll be based on the APS-C sensor, apparently same sensor as the 7D, but with a reduced Image Circle, 18mm.
– 3 New lenses. Zoom Kit EF-X 12-36mm, 36-166mm and 15mm f2.4 Pancake.
– There will be an adapter to use EF and EF-S lenses.
– 720p 30fps video.
– Articulated LCD
This goes against most of what I've been told about a Canon entry into the EVIL category. I'll ask around
1Ds Mark IV
A few reports saying we shouldn't be expecting a 1Ds Mark IV in the near future.
Other Rumors
It is super slow at the moment. I'm receiving no information. I've been able to spend my time healing my thumb and working on a new venture. The new venture will be announced next week if all goes well. It's mostly for Canadians, but some of you may be interested in it anyway.
I really doubt if Canon will release EVIL camera soon. I would think it is something that Canon will do but not this year – my guess :)
I hope so.
It would be 8Mp in this EVIL camera.
It would be very difficult to market it to consumers because of low Mp, while it is not so desirable for pros for use with existing lenses because of 2.4 crop.
Fixed lens camera is another story,
G12/S100 duo with such sensor & reduced zoom range to keep camera size small would sell really well.
Putting this 10 Mp sensor inside was really well accepted, so putting larger-n-better 8Mp would be no problem to market with advanced crowd.
Just for Canadians!
Wow, I don’t think ANYTHING related to cameras or electronics has been just for Canadians (except for higher prices).
Even if it’s information just for Canadians, I love it already!
Looking forward to hearing more about the new venture.
CRGuy, I’m glad the thumb didn’t actually go missing, maybe just a piece? ;P
Anyway, CR0 on an EVIL cam now, Canon has too much on its plate already. A larger-sensored P&S would be more likely, something to go up against the Panasonic LX3 successor rumored on the 4/3 rumors site. The S90 was a good try, but still too slow & not as wide compared to the LX3.
“mostly for Canadians” – great news!
a) The possibility of Canon EVIL cameras was raised quite a while ago in m43rumors site:
http://43rumors.com/ft3-canon-giii/
So, I won’t be surprised at all by an announcement soon. After all, Chuck Westfall talked about EVIL cameras several years ago:
http://www.dslrphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/Future_DSLRs.pdf
b) If the 1Ds4 does not appear, it’s probably because Canon realizes the standard for their next crown jewel has suddenly been raised by the appearance of the D3s. :)
Canadian? YAY!!!
After the Rebel it would be a logical next step with an Evil or a Terrorist.
And then what?
A new 21mp 1DS4 with native ISO @ 51,200 very clean images. :) Expandable upto ISO 409,600 @ ISO 409,600 images looks like taken by a cheap camera phone.
Then people call Canon stup*d and lost their minds for releasing a camera with crappy MAX ISO. Tsk tsk
max ISO is always crappy. that’s the point of max ISO, it goes beyond what the sensor is really designed to do.
or a Hooligan
I just bought the Olympus Ep2, Canon better not be evil and make an EVIL camera
>”It is super slow at the moment. I’m receiving no information.”
Secrecy is good; surprises are great. BUT, there is such a thing as too much secrecy: I am spending a lot of time on the slightly busier NikonRumors site, and that is NOT good!
Good for us
+1 Billion
2.4x crop?
Nah.
What would make a lot of sense for Canon would be to take advantage of their very low production costs on the 1000D sensor (10MP APSC) and wrap a 50mm-equivalent retractable lens and compact package around it.
It would be close to the Leica X1 specs with affordable price and superior Canon electronics & software.
Add a small integrated optical viewfinder (easy for a fixed focal) for the retro users.
And this product would not endanger their SLR line, only bridge the gap between compacts & SLRs.
I know it’s wishful thinking, so we’ll see…
“It’ll be based on the APS-C sensor, apparently same sensor as the 7D, but with a reduced Image Circle, 18mm.”
That would give crop ratio of about 2.4 and sensor size 15x10mm or so, I always hoped that the crop factor of Canon’s EVIL would not be bigger than 2.
With this FLM it would make sense for this camera to have sensor-based IS otherwise it could be quite difficult to handhold existing EF primes. I’d love to see what it could do even with entry level primes such as 50mm 1.8 or 85mm 1.8, with this crop factor they would turn into very sharp and pretty long telephoto lenses. I’d love to strap one of those to my trust 70-200 2.8 IS as a sort of glorified lens-cap :)
I was told by a pro dealer in Sydney the other day that Canon Australia GUARANTEED them they wouldn’t be seeing the 1Ds MK IV this year.
18mm image circle is very disappointing. APSc is small enough. A digital QL17 would be great.
I noticed over on DPR that CIPA are referring to the new cameras as “iLC” (interchangeable lens camera), no doubt because a lower-case “i” is so hot right now and it is never good to be “EVIL” (that and not all of these cameras have an electronic viewfinder).
Maybe if they went with “single interchangeable lens camera” or “SiLC” (because you need that lower-case “i” these days) they could pronounce it like “silk”. You could replace “single” with “small” or “sexy” or….[answers on a postcard]….
…or if they decide to make a 15mm F/0.8 for the 2.4x crop.
That will be very wise. Wait for the opponent to make the first move, then surprise them with something better.
It may be wishful thinking that became rumor, but I am one hoping it happens.
There are a few things that Canon could come up with that would have instant interest from me. An EVIL type camera is one…I love the size of the Panasonic/Olympus with the Pancake lens. And I have a trip later this year where I could “justify” buying it if it came out. (Have a trip coming up…need new camera gear. Have new camera gear, need another trip. Vicious cycle)
Me too.
If I want to travel light, I don’t want to buy a whole new system to do it. I want to be able to take along some combination of my EF 35mm, 85mm and EF-S 10-22mm; I’ll leave the 50D, 24-70mm and 70-200mm zooms at home; and I might consider adding a compact “EF-X” telephoto zoom to complete my lightweight travel needs.
If it doesn’t take my existing lenses, I’m not interested, as I’d be better off buying a Panasonic or Olympus.
An oral guarantee that’s worth the paper it’s written on.
..or what the sensor even puts out at all..
E.g. the real max ISO of the 5D2 is 3200.
a FF Evil 1Ds for me please not those APS-C cheap things
it is great news! but i won’t wreck CR guys surprise. Checked through the site just now and don’t see an official announcement as to what it is so i’ll leave it be. He did give me a CR t-shirt though (Y)
Some person who are near canon tell me about a 1X camera, not 1Ds. It was fullframe and without mobile mirror (transparent mirror or electronic VF). It’s a revolution. They don’t release a 1Ds IV but stop with 1D series and they will repalce it with 1X. H Res, H Speed
I’m curious why it would use the same sensor as the 7D but with a reduced image circle. The only explanation that I can think of for doing that would be for an electronic pixel-shift image stabilising mechanism. So instead of physically shifting the sensor you would just shift the image capturing to a different part of the sensor.
Just a thought.
sony will launch or had launched its EVIL version…
Canon and Nikon should follow soon or many people will just buy sony evil or those m.4/3 cameras…