Canon Cinema EOS Rumors

Feature update announcements coming to the Canon EOS R and Canon Cinema EOS C200 ahead of NAB

Canon Rumors
Posted onMar 29, 2019 at 11:40 AM
Updated onUpdated on Apr 2, 2019 at 5:11 AM

UPDATE: We’re adding to the information about Canon’s NAB announcements coming next week.

  • The long-rumoured SUMIRE prime PL mount lens series will be announced. They’ll match the EF versions as far as focal lengths, but the optical formulas will be different.
  • Two BCTV lenses are coming, both will be 4K. Specs aren’t known at this time, but one will likely be telephoto and the other with IS for ENG purposes (B4 mount).
  • Four 4K camcorders, XA40/45 and XA50/55. All of them as priced below the XF405/400 and will be able to shoot 4k30p. The XA50/55 have a 1″ sensor and DualPixelAF with a 15x zoom lens, while the XA40/45 have a smaller sensor with a 20x zoom lens.
  • They may also unveil the development of a new cinema camera and 4K reference display. The display could be 30″ and DolbyVision certified.

Canon is going to be announcing new gear ahead of NAB on April 3 (depending on where you are on the planet) and it’s going to be a busy show for the company.

Below is a new summary of what is going to be announced ahead of NAB, which begins on April 6, 2019, in Las Vegas.

We cannot confirm the information below with a [CR3] rating, but this all seems to be relatively realistic.

  • 4.2.2 internal 4K is being added to the Cinema EOS C200.
  • External RAW recording via an Atomos Ninja V partnership will be added to the Canon EOS R.
  • The Canon Cinema EOS C300 Mark III has been delayed until late summer.
  • RF mount mid-level and entry-level cinema cameras won’t come until 2020/2021.
  • A bunch of camcorders will also be announced.

More to come…

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padam

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Apart from the rolling shutter, the EOS R's image might top the C100 series and probably not that far off the C200.
This is not very Canon-like to be honest (so I am quite sceptical), but it would enable them to keep selling this camera for video purposes as well (and those pricey EF ND adapters could be in high demand), and of course Atomos probably made some kind of a deal with them, too because now their recorder is certainly more attractive.
 
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IggyMo said:
You mean like all RAW capable cameras on the market? Excluding the pocket cinema which is even smaller with its 4/3 sensor... this is amazing news!!! I might get the sigma 18-35 now along the atomos ninja 5. Wow!!
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This is a reason that would get me to buy the EOS R. IBIS would be another, but that will arrive in the R Mark II!
 
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buxtehude said:
External RAW on EOS R?
Did canon management change?
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No, no change. Their wives told them finally what to do.
The camera is weak. With this, who knows, maybe a Christmas gift? Let's see how the eye focus improvement looks like.
 
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padam said:
Apart from the rolling shutter, the EOS R's image might top the C100 series and probably not that far off the C200.
This is not very Canon-like to be honest (so I am quite sceptical), but it would enable them to keep selling this camera for video purposes as well (and those pricey EF ND adapters could be in high demand), and of course Atomos probably made some kind of a deal with them, too because now their recorder is certainly more attractive.
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I imagine that Atomos made the same deal with Canon that they made with Nikon for the Z6 and Z7 that is supposed to record external pro res raw to the new Ninja recorder, not complete raw. Either way, I'll buy one same day if they do it. Now only if the darn thing would capture DCI 4k instead of UHD...
 
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It's good to see Canon releasing firmware updates that add features. I personally don't think I'll need external RAW video, but given that Nikon will do it, it makes sense that they'd answer to that.
 
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transpo1 said:
Identical to Super 35 with horrendous rolling shutter ;)

Now if Canon announced a firmware update to make the EOS-R do FF 4K 60p, that would really be surprising. But they're not going to do that.
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Have you seen some footage of what the 1DC is being capable of with that horrendous rolling shutter? (While the 4k sensor area is much bigger, it is still only 8-bit 4:2:2 MJPEG, a far cry from ProRes RAW, no AF, no peaking, etc...)

Main line is: it is still better than anything we've had before from Canon at this price range (if it turns out to be true)
 
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djack41 said:
I'm not a video guy but would someone explain why external RAW is a big feature?
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You get much wider range of adjustments on the files, much closer to what you can achieve with any photo editing software in stills, so better color and better dynamic range (less compression, although in this case, the internal codec is already pretty strong in that regard)
If you look up 5D Mark III raw video, you can see how much better it can be, although that camera had soft video even after hacking (but you still see the color and the dynamic range being different), while in this case the 4k will be very sharp and free of artifacts. This is generally what you see in recent Netflix or other shows, where they also record in raw with professional video cameras and grade it later on.
 
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5D3 guy here with MLV RAW
and I was looking at BMPCC4k + EF Speedbooster (or wait for A7SIII)
If this external RAW is true, surely I'll be getting EOS R instead.
 
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If some company came out with a fully functional EF-RF focal reducer, they could make an absolute fortune.
 
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