• Tom R5R7
    Yeah, even on in the 10D says, 17 was tight. But the standard "kit" lens 18 was even tighter. And for all the concerns about...
  • R
    Canon wants 30% of the sale price as a fee for anyone using the RF mount. Pay or get sued.
  • I
    I somewhat feel the same but 17mm ends up just a little too tight often enough for my video projects that I still kept and use the 15-85...
  • Tom R5R7
    I used the Canon 17-40 f/4L on my 10D and 30D cameras back in the day. At the time, it was about the sharpest ultra-wide Canon had, with...
  • A
    This supposed RF-s 15-70 F4 is a lens I would have gladly bought to upgrade from the EF-s 18-135 and update the EF-s 15-85. Both are...
  • neuroanatomist
    It doesn’t scale like that, as @AlanF stated. For example, my RF 100-400mm f/8 has a front element of ~50 mm in diameter. 400 mm / 8 =...
  • Z
    Thanks for the clarification - this helps a lot. I've noticed that the lens corrections appeared to be working despite what I thought...
  • P
    How I would have liked a replacement to the 15-85 for my R7 but sorry Canon - too late. I got tired of waiting and just three days ago...
  • Z
    But no commercial lens is a simple lens. In a complex lens, the size of the rear and intermediate elements can scale with sensor size...
  • M
    15-70 f/4 would be a great video lens for me - especially when it is equipped with motorized zoom (PZ). Could "replace" the cinema lens...
  • Z
    Right, if D = f/N, (D=entrance pupil, f=focal length, N=f number) and f and N both are scaled by the same crop factor for an equivalent...
  • K
    If this turns out to be true, this would be an instant purchase for me. I've been using the old EF 180mm for years.
  • N
    I did quite a bit of research on this when I bought the Sigma 17-40mm f/1.8 and while it's difficult to find solid answers, what I found...
  • Andreasb
    FINALLY!!! Why has it taken so long for Canon to realize that there is a real need for an all around 24mm equivalent zoom for apc-c...
  • AlanF
    The crucial point in these discussions is as follows. Above a certain focal length, 50-100mm or so, the natural image diameter of a...
  • neuroanatomist
    My point was not about equivalence nor to show that, but merely to show the reason that I would never set an APS-C camera to ISO 25,600...
  • neuroanatomist
    Indeed, there is a size/weight advantage when designing lenses for a smaller sensor for focal lengths in the ultrawide, wide, normal and...
  • Z
    These examples definitely show the advantage of a larger sensor, but they aren't taken under the conditions of equivalency, where the...
  • Z
    Another FF vs APS-C comparison, between lenses I own: Nikon Z 24-70 f/4 S: ø: 77.5 x L: 88.5 mm; 500g Sigma RF-S 18-50 f/2.8: ø: 69.2...
  • A
    15-70/4 looks like a handy range. Nice to see RF-S support from Canon. Yes, f/4 is not sexy but selective focus is not the point of...
  • Z
    Very true. Equivalency only holds over the range where FF ISO = crop ISO * scale factor. Breaks down at both ends of the ISO scale - I...
  • Z
    Yes, APS-C needs the same exposure as FF. But to get an equivalent image (same exposure, FOV, DOF, motion blur, and image quality...
  • neuroanatomist
    Benefits of collecting more total light, and not just at base ISO. At lower ISOs, the DR advantage is what is most noticeable -...
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  • Z
    That is partially correct. - Yes, the apertures must be different, by the crop factor of 1.6 (the FF is bigger by 1.6). Notice that I...
  • neuroanatomist
    Much like the adage that you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink, @Xpenelas shows us that you can lead a fool to...
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