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Czardoom · 2026-05-16T19:17:52-0400

jeff89 said:
I don’t think there is anyway they can keep the sensor, that would be suicidal. A stacked or partially stacked sensor to address rolling shutter, some boost in MPs (as the market will demand it), an increase in dynamic range because of the market segment (addressing low light performance), a better buffer and precapture. The only thing I think they could possibly get away with is no improvement in buffer capacity, but even that would be a struggle.

Anything less and it will be a PR nightmare. If people thought overheating was an issue with the R5, the howling of a R7 II without the sensor improvements is a no go, and likely explains why it isn’t coming to market in 2026. Canon is the marketshare leader, they don’t want to give that up, they know they have to nail the R7 II, or those buyers will finally abandon Canon. Cameras are “too good” these days, look at the Sony A7R VI release. With the R7 II, it’s go big or go home.

Just my $0.02.

I don't think Canon really cares about a PR nightmare, because they always get the PR nightmare, usually undeserved, in my opinion. People believing a high-end APS-C camera will be a big seller seem to be ignoring all the evidence of the past, as there was no 7D III, Nikon has never created a successor to theirs, and when it came time to make the R7, they chose a low price alternative. So, the R7 II, might become a high-end crop camera if Canon believes that it will sell well enough, but if it has the same sensor, same basic specs and the same low price, it will almost certainly sell better than a high-end R7 II that is maybe close to twice the price, in my opinion.

As has been mentioned many times on this forum, the target consumer for each generation of camera is NOT the current generation of that same camera. So, some R7 users will piss and moan if it is not a major improvement, but most R7 owners will probably be people who will keep their cameras until they need to replace it. The actual target market will probably be current crop DSLR users looking to finally go mirrorless, brand new Canon buyers, and possibly R100 or R50 owners looking for a bit of an upgrade as long as it is affordable.

I find it somewhat humorous when people still ask for an increase in dynamic range - as if sensor makers have been holding something back for years. Dynamic Range peaked probably 5 and maybe even closer to 10 years ago. It is not going to increase, sorry.

AlanF · 2026-05-16T18:07:56-0400

I had the RF 100-500mm on the R5ii for dragonflies, and had to put on the 1.4x TC to get one rather high up. Oh, by the way there is a Hobby as well. Look at the top right of the first image, and then it is caught and transferred to mouth.. Joking apart, these shots made my week, if not year.

jeff89 · 2026-05-16T16:03:34-0400

spartan said:
Súhlasím s tebou. 200-400 mm TC1, 4 je príliš krátke... Ako možno povedať, že Sony vydalo víťaza iba 100-400 mm? Canon RF 300 - 600 f/5,6 so zabudovanou optikou TC1, 4 dokáže zničiť konkurenciu.. ale ako viem, Canon tento potenciál ničí buď zlým bokom, priemernou optikou, alebo nedostatkom optiky v zostave TC1, 4

The wildlife photographers seem pretty impressed, especially on the A7RVI (66.8 MP) so they have the crop ability. I think the problem with a RF 300-600 f 5.6 is the entrance pupil of 107 mm, the same as on the 100-300 f2.8 ($10599) so I agree with those saying that being bigger/heavier will translate into a higher price, slapping a built-in 1.4x will push the price even higher. The RF 100-500 f4.5-7.1 is well liked, making a faster version might be a more viable path for Canon.

Noreaster · 2026-05-16T15:51:52-0400

Noreaster · 2026-05-16T15:50:45-0400

Norther Harrier

jeff89 · 2026-05-16T15:49:55-0400

I was thinking something similar this morning, but a full stop improvement so the Canon RF 100-500mm f/4.5-7.1 L IS USM Lens ($2799 currently) becomes the:

Canon RF 100-500 mm f3.2-5 L IS USM (? $4499-4999)

which would compete with the newly released Sony FE 100-400 F4.5 GM OSS ($4298)

While the Sony is a constant aperture versus a variable for the Canon, with auto ISO, to me a variable aperture isn't a big deal, if the Canon is a full stop faster at the short end and probably about the same at 400

The entrance pupil is 100mm, less than the 107mm on the 100-300 f2.8 and the proposed 300-600 f5.6, so smaller and lighter than the 100-300 f2.8

If it is built so it can use the extenders:

1.4x converter gives you a RF 140-700 mm f4.5-7.1 L IS USM
2x converter gives you a RF 200-1000 mm f6.3-9 L IS USM

which gives you an extra 200mm at the far end over the non-L
Canon RF 200-800 f6.3-9 IS USM

pererik_2000 · 2026-05-16T15:16:43-0400

I started switching to Sony long time ago (2012?) because I wanted to use my Canon FD lenses on a digital camera, the first was a NEX-3 and later I went full frame (A7) but I also keep my Sony APS-C system. Now I am in the market for a video camera, I do not have any good Sony video capable camera (A6600 and A7R3a are my current best and they are very good for photo but limited and cumbersome for video and I also want a separate system for video). I still have my Canon systems (FD-film, EF-film and EF-S-digital and have started to look for a Canon mirrorless camera with good video and the possibiity to use EF/EF-S lenses. The R6III ($3900 in Sweden) and R6V ($3200) are too expensive for me, I am therefore looking for something like the R8. To the point: For R8 mark 2 I want IBIS and I do not want a selfie-type of screen but a photo/video-oriented flipup screen. A 32 Mpix sensor would be good for the use of EF-S lenses in 4k video. I already have an AE-1 so no need to imitate it...

OldrockyGN · 2026-05-16T15:15:36-0400

Makmut said:
On my list is a new brighter 100-500 ... I'm thinking f3.5-5.6 ... 2/3 stops down

Makmut - my understanding of the physics of optics is that a faster 100-500 would have to also be
larger (diameter). That means it will be both heavier and a lot more expensive. When I got the R5m2
I didn't understand how much importance the extra dynamic range of the sensor would be. As in -
the R5m2 made my RF 100-500 better. Perhaps "better glass" might mean "better tech in the body"?

Makmut said:
On my list is a new brighter 100-500 ... I'm thinking f3.5-5.6 ... 2/3 stops do

Makmut said:
On my list is a new brighter 100-500 ... I'm thinking f3.5-5.6 ... 2/3 stops down

Chig · 2026-05-16T14:34:28-0400

MkSprintz said:
A fixed F/5.6 300-600 would slot in around $5000-$7000 roughly. At F/4 I could see such a beast being $12000 but F/5.6 at $12,000 isn't happening.

You've based your pricing on what exactly?
Wish fulfilment?

spartan · 2026-05-16T14:32:20-0400

Súhlasím s tebou. 200-400 mm TC1, 4 je príliš krátke... Ako možno povedať, že Sony vydalo víťaza iba 100-400 mm? Canon RF 300 - 600 f/5,6 so zabudovanou optikou TC1, 4 dokáže zničiť konkurenciu.. ale ako viem, Canon tento potenciál ničí buď zlým bokom, priemernou optikou, alebo nedostatkom optiky v zostave TC1, 4.

spartan · 2026-05-16T14:28:39-0400

jeff89 said:
RP sa mi páčil viac ako R, takže som bol spokojný s vydaním8 R8, ale R8 II mi absolútne nič nehovorí. R8 bol však určite vynikajúcim vstupom do sveta filmových fotoaparátov a pravdepodobne cieli na zdravý segment trhu. Pre človeka, ktorý má viacero tiel, ma R8 II nezaujíma, čakám na milovanú sériu 7, vlajkovú loď APS-C fotoaparátov a zabijaka konkurencie! (Počúvaš Canon?). A mohol by som byť v pokušení kúpiť si R3 II s predsnímaním, najmä ak si môžem nastaviť časový interval, viac MP a globálnu uzávierku, ak má dobrý dynamický rozsah, čo všetko by podľa mňa malo byť na zozname želaní väčšiny súčasných majiteľov R3. Mám R1, takže pravdepodobná odporúčaná maloobchodná cena medzi R1 a R3 II znamená, že cena by pravdepodobne nebola hnacou silou. Ale alternatívna technológia by mohla, takže pravdepodobne GS.

Čo sa týka objektívov, myslím si, že Sony tento týždeň vydalo víťazný model. Bol by som nadšený, keby SIGMA vydala model 300-600 f/4 s bajonetom RF. Milujem svoj EF 200-400 f/4 + 1,4, ale na dlhej strane je príliš krátky, dokonca aj s 1,4 zapnutým pri 560 f/5,6 na Safari. RF 200-800, dosah sa mi páči, ale kvalita spracovania je len priemerná. Takže sa tešíme z RF 100-500 II, ktorý je o niečo rýchlejší, nie som si istý, či s ním môžu urobiť veľa ostrejšieho obrazu, možno ľahšieho, ale hmotnosť nie je problémom tohto objektívu, odvážili by sa dať mu + 1,4, aby zaútočili na Sony 100-400 f/4,5? Myslím si, že by to stálo veľa peňazí ornitológov, ale koľko to pridá k cene RF 100-500? Vydajú na trh pevný objektív, buď RF 200 f2, alebo RF 400 f4 DO, alebo sa zameriavajú na vydanie Sony s ich vlastným 100-400 f4.5?

Aldherrian · 2026-05-16T14:22:21-0400

I've grown accustomed to the RF caps but I would gladly get back the easiness of using EF-like caps
I'll definitely have a look next summer while in Japan as I'm sure the regular stores will stock it in abundant quantity for pennies

P-visie · 2026-05-16T14:18:18-0400

Pied avocets (Recurvirostra avosetta) in fight for turf. One of the adults even attacked the other pairs chicks.

R5 Mk II with RF200-800mm,

P-visie · 2026-05-16T14:12:45-0400

Sanderlings (Calidris alba) on the beach of the Dutch island Texel.

Chasing away other sanderlings intruding on it’s feeding patch:

R5 Mk II + EF 600mm f4 II + 1.4 extender.

Having a piece of jellyfish:

R5 Mk II + RF 200-800mm

Karm · 2026-05-16T14:10:18-0400

The only thing I'd consider buying body wise at this point is an R1 or R3 form factor camera with a higher megapixel (45MPx or more) sensor.
Lens wise... I'm quite happy with 28-70 f/2 and 24-105 f/2.8, and 70-200 f/2.8 and 100-500 f/4.5-7.1 already covers most of what I need for the tele end.

If they can make a wider range version of the 28-70 f/2 without compromising too much on weight or quality, I wouldn't say no to that.
I also would probably buy a huge aperture 50mm f/1 or something if they decided to go along in the big aperture race. A 50mm f/1.2 at four thirds of a stop faster than the 28-70 f/2 I can sort of still overcome by just bumping ISO for low light stuff, but at f/1 with two full stops of difference, that'd be worth doing a lens swap for.

None of those things I've heard very concrete rumors about (except a wider range 28-70), so we'll see. I'm not in a great hurry.

John D P · 2026-05-16T14:07:01-0400

Waiting on Canon to announce the updated 400 2.8; hopefully with a switchable teleconverter. If they have developed the updated 400mm 2.8; they should do this before the World Cup starts!

I'm not interested in a fixed 5.6 300-600mm lens for $7000+.

I'll use my f2.8 70-200Z with or without a teleconverter & keep my 100-500mm to fill in the low end.

Makmut · 2026-05-16T14:06:57-0400

On my list is a new brighter 100-500 ... I'm thinking f3.5-5.6 ... 2/3 stops down

Tomba · 2026-05-16T13:15:29-0400

some samples (jpgs from R5II) on https://www.lenstip.com/2574-news-Canon_RF_20-50_mm_f_4L_IS_USM_PZ_-_sample_shots.html

Del Paso · 2026-05-16T12:58:10-0400

Am I the only one who doesn't understand the "hype" about the Sony 4,5/100-400?
The EF 4,5-5,6 100-400 cost half, was lighter and at longer focals about 1/2 aperture slower...
The Sony is certainly a brillant lens, but I still don't get it.

john1970 · 2026-05-16T11:26:47-0400

Chig said:
Me too but I can't see it being cheaper than the very similar RF 100-300mm f/2.8L IS USM if it's an L lens I would expect it to be at least 10% more expensive.
If Canon made a non L 300-600mm f/5.6 as they did with the RF 200-800 using cheaper elements and coatings and consumer grade materials then it should be a bit cheaper than the RF 100-300mm f/2.8L IS USM but personally I'd rather they made it a full on L lens and hopefully get the weight down and add a built in 1.4 extender for 420-840mm f/8 with it engaged. I'd be happy to save up for this even if it's USD $12,000

Agreed. Honestly, I would be content if Canon just made the same lens as Sony (100-400 mm f4.5) with a similar weight. As I get older being able to carry smaller lenses is a huge benefit. What would be really cool would be a 100-400 mm f4.5 DO with a built-in 1.4x TC at less than 5 lbs. I would buy it in a heartbeat.

While I do use Canon primarily I do own other systems (e.g., Nikon Z8 with Nikon 800 mm f6.3 lens). Hopefully by year's end we have a better idea of what Canon will do in the $4K to $7K telephoto zoom department. Otherwise, I might have to give Sony a try (love some of their lens, but tend not to like their cameras).

Uneternal · 2026-05-16T11:16:17-0400

-pekr- said:
Wake me up, when Canon innovates again with things like BSI and stacked sensor.

Why? Canon has optimized FSI designs to the point where they have slightly faster readout and slightly less noise than Sony does with their BSI and stacked sensors.

Click · 2026-05-16T07:34:38-0400

Nemorino said:
Speckled wood dancing over a hedge. Couldn't get on the other side to get the sun in my back.
Correct exposure was really difficult.
R5m2 + RF 100-500L

I really like your shots. Well done, Nemorino.

Click · 2026-05-16T07:32:26-0400

Nemorino said:
Sturnus vulgaris aka starling aka Star
R5m2 + RF 100-500L
@ 1/4000, f/7.1, iso 2500/3200

The R5m2 tracked the bird even through some branches which covered nearly the hole bird (between the third and fourth picture). Very good performence!

Nice series, Nemorino.

Click · 2026-05-16T07:30:40-0400

Dragon said:
Looks like it is going to be a hummer summer. Only a few Annas are back, and we still have the Rufus to go. They are already going through over a gallon a day. Guess I will have to take a trip to Costco for sugar. R7+RF200-800

Beautiful shots, Dragon. Keep posting.

Click · 2026-05-16T07:29:41-0400

Well done, Norman.

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