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BFG9000 · Oct 31, 2025

@Bob Howland The stacked sensors are very fast readout sensors. Not as fast as global shutter sensors (which are immediate) but way faster than the rest of the CMOS sensors.

candyman · Oct 31, 2025

Nemorino said:
European kestrel
R5 + RF100-500 + 1.4TC
@1/800s, f/10, iso 500

Beautiful with the feathers spread out so nicely

P-visie · Oct 31, 2025

Bob Howland said:
OK, we have Stacked Sensors, Backside Illuminated Sensors and Fast Readout Sensors. all of which can be implemented independently and seem to independently have benefits. I understand the benefits of BSI and Fast Readout Sensors, but not Stacked Sensors. What's the big deal with those?

Stacked sensors have an extra layer of circuitry that improves readout speed. This enables better AF and reduces rolling shutter.

See: https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/cameras/what-is-a-stacked-sensor

Nemorino · Oct 31, 2025

European kestrel
R5 + RF100-500 + 1.4TC
@1/800s, f/10, iso 500

Nemorino · Oct 31, 2025

pale clouded yellow
R5m2 + RF200-800 + 1.4TC
@ 1/4000s, f/11, iso 1250, 840mm
QHD crops

rombe3jr · Oct 31, 2025

archie said:
Does anybody know what the S&F stands for on the mode dial. Would it be something like "shutter and framerate" or am I off-base?

And if it is related to framerate setting, why does it need such easy access for quick changes?
At the risk of building false hope, would it enable trade-offs between frame rates and sensor readout speeds? You know, to maybe enable better readout speeds. Or would it be something like enabling a longer stream of shots at a slower framerate?

I have heard "Slow and Fast" before.

Bob Howland · Oct 31, 2025

OK, we have Stacked Sensors, Backside Illuminated Sensors and Fast Readout Sensors. all of which can be implemented independently and seem to independently have benefits. I understand the benefits of BSI and Fast Readout Sensors, but not Stacked Sensors. What's the big deal with those?

rombe3jr · Oct 31, 2025

Walrus said:
Camera bodies are overrated, lenses are 10 times more important. I don't like to think about fanboys of any manufacturer, I like to think on each one of us wanting to spend their money on what we consider the best tech for our needs.
I use Canon since 1999, in the film days, and never had any other 24x36 system for this 26 years, so I can be considered somewhat a Canon fanboy, but no matter what the R6 III is bringing us, I can tell you I have never been so close so switch side, to Sony, and not by the reason of "lenses", plural, but I'm ready to switch just to get ahold of a single specific lens, the Tamron 35-150, that for me is enough to bear with Sony ergonomics and menus, which I deem way inferior to Canon's.

Cameras are full of marketing gimmicks, sometimes REALLY helpful, especially in the AF department, but in the end they're just black boxes recording light via the exposure triangle, and what really makes the difference is lighting, first, and the lens, second. Camera comes in as a distant third.
I don't know if Sony fans won't be able to ignore Canon after the release of the R6 III, but I can tell you that I still won't be able to ignore Sony even if the 45 f1.2 (which is why I'm here, the R6III doesn't interest me one bit) is great and even if I'll buy it on pre-order, I'll still be thinking about that Tamron lens, and possibly ending up switching side.

Who cares about being a fan of a company? Really?

That Tamron 35-150 ($1,700 USD) has quite an impressive focal range and fast aperture. Also available on Z mount but obviously Sony appeals to more of the market than Nikon. Samyang has a similar lens, new for only $1,075 USD right now. And that lens is also available on L mount. But obviously Leica, Panasonic & Sigma are less appealing than Sony. Definitely a fantastic range for a single lens. I personally prefer to be a bit more discreet and so the smaller zooms a better fit. That's why I'm really hoping that Canon matches the RF 16-28 f/2.8 STM, RF 28-70 f/2.8 STM with a crucial third lens to complete the holy trinity: RF 70-180 f/2.8 STM. That set on the R8? Chef's kiss for me. I also understand that over time, lenses become more important than camera bodies. All of these "features" seem to be getting a bit outrageous for photography (video, obviously has quite a bit more complexity and added features really help). Out of curiosity, if you bought a Sony in order to accommodate the Tamron 35-150 f/2-2.8, which model would you buy?

blackcoffee17 · Oct 31, 2025

I'm still waiting for a compact camera that can match my Pixel phone image quality (JPEG) and offers a decent zoom lens, something like 24-100. I have an R8 with multiple lenses for any serious photo project but want something small, portable that can produce images i dont have to edit. There is a huge market for cameras like this.

jamtra · Oct 31, 2025

archie said:
Does anybody know what the S&F stands for on the mode dial. Would it be something like "shutter and framerate" or am I off-base?

And if it is related to framerate setting, why does it need such easy access for quick changes?
At the risk of building false hope, would it enable trade-offs between frame rates and sensor readout speeds? You know, to maybe enable better readout speeds. Or would it be something like enabling a longer stream of shots at a slower framerate?

Mode Dial Now Includes “S&F”
- Update: This feature let's you select framerates based on a multiplication factor more efficiently. If you're shooting at 24fps, you can easily switch to 12fps by selecting 0.5x or double the frame rate by selecting 2x. I don't know if there are other multiplication settings.

archie · Oct 31, 2025

Does anybody know what the S&F stands for on the mode dial. Would it be something like "shutter and framerate" or am I off-base?

And if it is related to framerate setting, why does it need such easy access for quick changes?
At the risk of building false hope, would it enable trade-offs between frame rates and sensor readout speeds? You know, to maybe enable better readout speeds. Or would it be something like enabling a longer stream of shots at a slower framerate?

jamtra · Oct 31, 2025

You can get notified when preorder starts

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1928858-REG/canon_elevate_your_image.html

roby17269 · Oct 31, 2025

DocInfoSci said:
I agree. It comes down to that in terms of the sensor. In the history of the 6D vs 5D it was also body, shutter, lifetime of flaps, sealing, etc.

I disagree. Moving from the 6D -> 6D II was meh, but from the 6D II to (spiritually, at least) the R6 it was wow. There are far fewer differences between the R6 and R5 when you take a photo or dunk the body in animal snot than what were with the 6D series vs 5D series. Similarly, the RP vs R or 5D.4 was meh. Canon could have kept with meh, but it ran strong. More my point about the 5D.4 comparison and use of the 1D III -ish chip. Canon didn't just hand the masses a road apple. They handed them a quality product by which only resolution and mode selection were the big differentiators.

Put this way:
For CAD $2k in moving from the R6 to R5 you get double the pixels and an LCD display. I guess more EVF pixels.
For CAD $2k in moving from the 6D II to 5D.4 you got double the pixels, better snot resistance, better daylight tolerance, better low end detail preservation, more flaps before failure, etc.

So in moderns times resolution. In the before times pretty much well the whole pie. Steering this back to my original moaning, I'm just hoping the R6.3, despite apparent advancement, isn't inching us back to the whole pie scenario.

I guess I am confused by the parallels you are making?

And I guess Canon's numbering patterns do not help...

But to me the 6 lineage would be: 6D -> 6D II -> RP -> R8...
While the 5 lineage has remained more or less linear (the R is a bit of an outlier), the 6 lineage seems to have split into 8 and new 6 (R6 -> R6 II -> R6 III) that slots between the 8 and the 5.

By the way, I sympathize with your some of your considerations, being myself a non-pro prosumer who likes pro features

Philnick · Oct 31, 2025

I bought an R6 II last fall, but it - with the RF 28-70mm f/2.8 IS STM - was so much bigger and heavier than my R7 with the Sigma RF-S 18-50mm f.2.8 that the R6 was seldom used and was resold in half a year. Recently resold the 18-50 and got the new Sigma RF-S 17-40mm f/1.8 Art. At a stop and a third faster than the typical f/2.8 normal zoom and beautifully sharp, it more than overcomes APS-C's one-stop noise and bokeh handicap. Yes, the 17-40 is close to a full-frame lens in size, but it's a much cheaper upgrade than going to a full-frame body, and there's always the ability to use smaller lenses when the light is better. (And Sigma's RF-S 56mm f/1.4 is no slouch either, being sharp wide open.)

That full-time size and weight increase is what I'm trying to avoid.

jamtra · Oct 31, 2025

Walrus said:
Camera bodies are overrated, lenses are 10 times more important. I don't like to think about fanboys of any manufacturer, I like to think on each one of us wanting to spend their money on what we consider the best tech for our needs.
I use Canon since 1999, in the film days, and never had any other 24x36 system for this 26 years, so I can be considered somewhat a Canon fanboy, but no matter what the R6 III is bringing us, I can tell you I have never been so close so switch side, to Sony, and not by the reason of "lenses", plural, but I'm ready to switch just to get ahold of a single specific lens, the Tamron 35-150, that for me is enough to bear with Sony ergonomics and menus, which I deem way inferior to Canon's.

Cameras are full of marketing gimmicks, sometimes REALLY helpful, especially in the AF department, but in the end they're just black boxes recording light via the exposure triangle, and what really makes the difference is lighting, first, and the lens, second. Camera comes in as a distant third.
I don't know if Sony fans won't be able to ignore Canon after the release of the R6 III, but I can tell you that I still won't be able to ignore Sony even if the 45 f1.2 (which is why I'm here, the R6III doesn't interest me one bit) is great and even if I'll buy it on pre-order, I'll still be thinking about that Tamron lens, and possibly ending up switching side.

Who cares about being a fan of a company? Really?

You are absolutely correct. I think people use what they are the most comfortable with and produces the best shot for them and at a cost that suits their pocketbook.

BFG9000 · Oct 31, 2025

PerKr said:
A change in form factor, huh? I've said it before; R3 body with APS-C sensor. Stacked sensor, eye-control AF, everything the R3 has but with an APS-C sensor

I think in the best case Canon will put the sensor in a R6 style body with an R6 style button layout and that's it. And maybe will be compatible with the R5/R6 series vertical grip.

Walrus · Oct 31, 2025

rombe3jr said:
This R6 Mark III forum is by far the most popular on Canon Rumors. Well over 500 comments and climbing each day. This is going to be an important camera in the Canon lineup for the next few years. So far, the rumors seem to be ringing true to the market and it should be a best seller. Cannot say the same for Sony and the A7V. The few rumors that are being leaked are not looking good. My guess is that Sony is freaking out how much Canon is advancing the technology at the same price point. They will either have to take an "L" (loss) on this model and try to do better in a couple years or just reduce the price on a minor update to the A7IV. To their credit, Sony did finally reduce the price of the A7IV from $2,700 to $2,000 (USD) and that helped move it to number one on Amazon. But it looks like the R6 III is going to have so many more features than the A7V at nearly the same price, that even Sony fanboys won't be able to ignore Canon anymore. Of course they will just continue to gloat about all of their 3rd party lenses on the FE mount still missing from RF mount. Looks like that's the only hand Sony fans will have left after the R6 III is announced on Thursday.

Camera bodies are overrated, lenses are 10 times more important. I don't like to think about fanboys of any manufacturer, I like to think on each one of us wanting to spend their money on what we consider the best tech for our needs.
I use Canon since 1999, in the film days, and never had any other 24x36 system for this 26 years, so I can be considered somewhat a Canon fanboy, but no matter what the R6 III is bringing us, I can tell you I have never been so close so switch side, to Sony, and not by the reason of "lenses", plural, but I'm ready to switch just to get ahold of a single specific lens, the Tamron 35-150, that for me is enough to bear with Sony ergonomics and menus, which I deem way inferior to Canon's.

Cameras are full of marketing gimmicks, sometimes REALLY helpful, especially in the AF department, but in the end they're just black boxes recording light via the exposure triangle, and what really makes the difference is lighting, first, and the lens, second. Camera comes in as a distant third.
I don't know if Sony fans won't be able to ignore Canon after the release of the R6 III, but I can tell you that I still won't be able to ignore Sony even if the 45 f1.2 (which is why I'm here, the R6III doesn't interest me one bit) is great and even if I'll buy it on pre-order, I'll still be thinking about that Tamron lens, and possibly ending up switching side.

Who cares about being a fan of a company? Really?

InternalRevenue · Oct 31, 2025

I’d be fine with a “slightly bigger” body if it came with an extra dial or buttons, but would hate to see a G9ii situation of an unnecessarily massive body just to match some sort of full frame standard. Make it compatible with a grip of some want a R3R1 style camera.

I also hope the R7ii comes alongside a 24-70/105mm FF equivalent lens, like that patented RF-S 15-60mm f/2.8: it’s a glaring hole in the ecosystem, and the closest option we have is the EF-S 15-85 which is long in tooth, dark, and variable aperture.

rombe3jr · Oct 31, 2025

This R6 Mark III forum is by far the most popular on Canon Rumors. Well over 500 comments and climbing each day. This is going to be an important camera in the Canon lineup for the next few years. So far, the rumors seem to be ringing true to the market and it should be a best seller. Cannot say the same for Sony and the A7V. The few rumors that are being leaked are not looking good. My guess is that Sony is freaking out how much Canon is advancing the technology at the same price point. They will either have to take an "L" (loss) on this model and try to do better in a couple years or just reduce the price on a minor update to the A7IV. To their credit, Sony did finally reduce the price of the A7IV from $2,700 to $2,000 (USD) and that helped move it to number one on Amazon. But it looks like the R6 III is going to have so many more features than the A7V at nearly the same price, that even Sony fanboys won't be able to ignore Canon anymore. Of course they will just continue to gloat about all of their 3rd party lenses on the FE mount still missing from RF mount. Looks like that's the only hand Sony fans will have left after the R6 III is announced on Thursday.

PerKr · Oct 31, 2025

A change in form factor, huh? I've said it before; R3 body with APS-C sensor. Stacked sensor, eye-control AF, everything the R3 has but with an APS-C sensor

Philnick · Oct 31, 2025

Just don't make it a lot heavier or more expensive. Right now the R7 is one of the best APS-C mirrorless cameras, particularly since they opened up the RF-S mount a year ago, giving it more parity with Sony and Fujifilm. Nikon puts IBIS only in their full-frame models, making the APS-C Sigmas - all non-stabilized - not as viable. (I'm not familiar with Sony or Fujifilm's cameras.) It would be a shame for Canon to join Nikon in denying us hobbyists the kind of semi-pro camera the R7 represents by making it heavy and expensive.

rombe3jr · Oct 31, 2025

Compact cameras are selling well worldwide. Of course, there are different markets and many niche segments within the compact category. I think anybody that releases a model close to what the Nikon DL was going to be, will be successful.

AlanF · Oct 31, 2025

Michael Clark said:
You can claim Canon risks alienating "lots of R7 users" if they go back to the layout of the 7D, 7D mark II, 80D, 90D, etc. How do you know they didn't alienate a LOT MORE potential R7 buyers who took a pass because of the ridiculous R7 control layout? I've heard MANY say they didn't buy the R7 because it was laid out too different from their R6 or R5 bodies. You're the ONLY person I've ever heard say they want the R7 Mark II to continue the divergent layout.

For those of us who switch between the 5/6 series and the 7, the change in layout is indeed a pain but we (have to) put up with it. However, if you trawl through posts you will find several that do prefer the current R7 layout, and they tend to be from those with the one body.

Click · Oct 31, 2025

candyman said:
This pose makes it seem like the robin is intently observing the world. But it's more likely that he's keeping a close eye on the birds of prey.

Lovely shot, candyman.

Planterz · Oct 31, 2025

MSH411 said:
Here are a couple publications overview on the projected R7 MkII specs. So far I haven't seen one that mentions the form factoring remaining as is.... oh well

Shutter Count: Ergonomics may be refined to match the EOS R5 Mark II layout, including re-positioned controls and a higher resolution OLED viewfinder with 0.9x magnification.

Canon Rumors: ergonomics similar to the EOS R5 Mark II. This has been talked about for quite some time. While Canon did some unique things with the EOS R7, the layout is polarizing. I personally can't stand the way the EOS R7 is laid out. This would probably mean the joystick and scroll wheel moving back to where we'd expect them to be on prosumer RF cameras.

Digital Camera World: Larger Form Factor, the R7 Mark II might feature a larger form factor compared to its predecessor. While this means the camera may be less compact, it could translate to better ergonomics and handling.

I'm not discounting the validity of this, but I have to point out that this isn't necessarily 3 sources; in this case it's more likely there's 3 sites repeating a single source, each with their own extrapolations of the info they've been given.

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