Why I’m Buying The R5C Instead Of The C50 (Or R6 Mark III)

Why I’m Buying The R5C Instead Of The C50 (Or R6 Mark III)

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I wonder if Canon will ever do an R5C II based on the R5 II. The fast stacked sensor and strong DR performance in the more familiar body shape, with active cooling, would be of interest to quite a few people.

I also wonder what Nikon will do with the 45mp stacked sensor in the Z8/Z9. Can't help but think they will make an 8k cine body with that sensor. They have the potential to be quite disruptive to the industry if they listen to Red and play their cards right.
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Why I’m Buying The R5C Instead Of The C50 (Or R6 Mark III)

The product box has been corrected and B&H will update their web site.
Thanks for checking into it so quickly, and also for contacting B&H.

I was hoping that it would be BSI, but the reduced native ISO range vs the R6 II (100-51,200 vs 100-102,400) made me think it probably wasn't going to be the case.
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Canon Officially Announces the Canon RF 45mm f/1.2 STM

I know. I meant that consumers think VAT included.
We don't know / care if 529 eur correspond to 433+96 VAT, to 500+29 VAT or to 300+229 VAT.
For us, if Amazon.it asks 529 eur, it's 529 eur.
Many here will have deductible VAT ;)


If this is true, than 375,2 dollar (i.e. 469 / 1.25) would be a theoretical price that covers all the purchase costs AND the margins expected by every operator from the factory to the final shop. That's amazing.
I think the tariff is applied to the import cost. There's still profit for Canon USA and then profit for the retailer. The real impact of the import tariff should be much smaller.
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Canon Officially Announces the Canon RF 45mm f/1.2 STM

No, you're buying it for 433€ + VAT.
I know. I meant that consumers think VAT included.
We don't know / care if 529 eur correspond to 433+96 VAT, to 500+29 VAT or to 300+229 VAT.
For us, if Amazon.it asks 529 eur, it's 529 eur.

And I realize I was simplifying, assuming that V.A.T. can be considered similar to the Sales Tax, from the customer's point of view.

They're applying the tariffs on imports, not on end purchases, so the 25% is not on $469 but on the what the importer (Canon USA, I suppose) pays for the product.
The $469 should reflect the 25% tariff already.
If this is true, than 375,2 dollar (i.e. 469 / 1.25) would be a theoretical price that covers all the purchase costs AND the margins expected by every operator from the factory to the final shop. That's amazing.
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Why I’m Buying The R5C Instead Of The C50 (Or R6 Mark III)

"The R5C has an identical button layout to the R5 and R6. And on jobs where I’m using multiple cameras at once, I’ve always struggled remapping my muscle memory from camera to camera. This is a quirk that I never see YouTubers discuss.
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Of course, they never discuss it. Fits in the picture I have of YouTubers: talk about gear, complain and whine, but never actually use it! That's why they don't know about it.
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Canon Officially Announces the Canon RF 45mm f/1.2 STM

Here in Italy we will be able to buy this lens for 529 euro (Amazon.it). That's it.
No, you're buying it for 433€ + VAT.


Now, I'm not american but, I THINK it works like this, for them...
So my question is: will the U.S. customer pay 469 USD+ 25% tariff + VAT, or do the 469 USD already include the 25% tariff?
They don't have VAT, they have sales tax, that depends on the State and can go from nothing to like 10/12%.

They're applying the tariffs on imports, not on end purchases, so the 25% is not on $469 but on the what the importer (Canon USA, I suppose) pays for the product.
The $469 should reflect the 25% tariff already. However, it does not include Sales Tax, which is calculated and applied the moment the end-buyer makes his payment.

If I'm mistaken, please, may someone correct me :D
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Canon Officially Announces the Canon EOS R6 Mark III

They are grumbling pretty hard over at Sony Rumors :LOL:. The Canon R6 III is such a good camera that nobody expects the Sony A7V to actually compete with it.
I do not think that Sony has fallen so far behind that they can't catch up, but they have fallen far enough behind that Sony fanboys have lost their superiority complex.
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Canon Officially Announces the Canon EOS R6 Mark III

The R5/R5 II discussion in here is fascinating. I've had my R5 since the day it launched and it's never failed me. Only twice has it overheated and that was of my own doing (accidentally leaving 4k/120 on). The two issues I've seen mentioned the most as egregious is long-form recording causing an overheat. In which case I always feel buy a dedicated video cam. And then the second is overheating during stills shooting, which I still have yet to see evidence of. Anybody have video of an R5/II overheating from stills only? Shouldn't it be able to be recreated in circumstances where it happens?
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Why I’m Buying The R5C Instead Of The C50 (Or R6 Mark III)

Love this article. This type of content has me visiting the site more frequently. I'm in the same boat as you, Youtube discussions over camera releases or comparisons have become useless. Fro and PetaPixel are about all I watch now that feel remotely useful/informative. Rest of the videos are just content machines/advertisements.
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Canon Officially Announces the Canon RF 45mm f/1.2 STM

One off-topic question to the U.S. members of the forum.
Just a curiosity.

Here in Italy we will be able to buy this lens for 529 euro (Amazon.it). That's it.


In the US, I know that VAT has to be added, and it depends on where the lens is purchased.

But this lens is made in Malaysia, and there is a 25% tariff (if I remember well) on Malaysia's export to the US.

So my question is: will the U.S. customer pay 469 USD+ 25% tariff + VAT, or do the 469 USD already include the 25% tariff?

Thanks.
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The Canon EOS R7 Mark II May Be a Big Departure From the Original

You are not missing a thing, some people think their wants/ needs represent the entire user-base.

@CRguy explained in another thread why GPS is an issue for smaller camera bodies. See: Post in thread 'Canon Officially Announces the Canon EOS R6 Mark III'
https://www.canonrumors.com/forum/t...-the-canon-eos-r6-mark-iii.44848/post-1035009
Thanks. Yes I get the point and reasoning about battery, space shielding etc.... But old cameras and specifically referring to bridge (which has EVF) Canon PowerShot and Nikon P900 etc has geo tagging. they have small batteries, small boddies, EVF etc and still a gps in there. I know Rx cameras are a bit more advanced and shielding would be good but come on a gps is no longer some big battery hunger device - they are always on in your phone.
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Why would you say its pointless? Am I missing something that I always took for granted in taking outdoor pics in unknown areas and want to tag and id later? Not arguing - just want to understand why other people would not find it a necessity?
You are not missing a thing, some people think their wants/ needs represent the entire user-base.

@CRguy explained in another thread why GPS is an issue for smaller camera bodies. See: Post in thread 'Canon Officially Announces the Canon EOS R6 Mark III'
https://www.canonrumors.com/forum/t...-the-canon-eos-r6-mark-iii.44848/post-1035009
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The Canon EOS R7 Mark II May Be a Big Departure From the Original

With the exception of Geolocation/GPS which is unnecessary and pointless the rest of that list is realistic for what's needed in the R7ii.
Why would you say its pointless? Am I missing something that I always took for granted in taking outdoor pics in unknown areas and want to tag and id later? Not arguing - just want to understand why other people would not find it a necessity?
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The Canon EOS R7 Mark II May Be a Big Departure From the Original

I agree with most of the technical "wish list" items.
A simple feature that seems lacking in most of the lineup of Cannon is geolocation. Why can a camera of this level not have this basic modern feature?
Given the general consensus that the R7 is used for wildlife and if Canon want to make it a truly wildlife / outdoor camera they must include geolocation / GPS into the body.
So wildlife / outdoor features should include:
FAST APS C sensor to avoid rolling shutter. Electronic only is good if it is not subject to rolling shutter effect
APS C is great for giving that extra reach on lenses
Geo location is a must
A good low light performance would be great since artificial light with wildlife is not always possible. Again a good new sensor.
High burst rate 40 raw. high res video at high frame rate for slow-motion
Pre-capture
No blackout / blackout free EVF
Fast and smart advanced AF
at least 33MP - higher would be great to allow cropping
Good stabilization (IBS) because most shots are out of the hand
focus bracketing
With the exception of Geolocation/GPS which is unnecessary and pointless the rest of that list is realistic for what's needed in the R7ii.
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