SvO2 said:

I wonder if the r1 or r5ii will be updated to get open gate if the r6iii does truly get it

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Same here. Given that the C50 doesn't have EVF and IBIS, it would be alright to have a photo first camera with C-log2 to have a gate. Otherwise, we would have to wait 2-3 years before a fill in the gap comes along. I like that the C50 doesn't have IBIS, but when I need it, I would prefer having a secondary camera to be able to do it.

Canon Rumors said:

We don't need gimmicks from Smartphones in real cameras. Such a feature in-camera would produce a JPG which no one will want, or it will have to use DPP, which no one wants.

Why on earth would you need a hundred exposures? No one liked the R5's 400mp feature, because anything moved and the whole thing was pointless.

You can already batch stack exposures in multiple pieces of software quickly and easily. The movement is less of an issue with exposure stacking in that regard, but not always easily. You need 5 expsures tops if you're shooting in difficult situations, which shouldn't be very often.

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No wonder many people/beginners don't want to buy dedicated cameras when camera companies have this kind of thinking. Or they spend $1000 on a camera and are disappointed to find out that their Pixel phone takes better images. Out of camera JPG's and connectivity is still archaic and simply bad in most dedicated cameras, especially in difficult light.
People don't want to edit photos - they just want to take great photos with ease and share them. These "gimmicks" would sell many cameras for manufacturers.

nwardrip said:

I wanted to share my (positive) experience. I downloaded and installed the ST-E10 and EL-5 firmware last night and installed on my 2x ST-E10s and 2x EL-5s. Historically, that combo drops connections within a few minutes and won't reconnect until both the transmitter and speedlite are power-cycled. It has been horribly frustrating to the point that I wouldn't use the wireless connection to the flashes. Last night, after the FW update, I tested the transmitter and speedlites and they stayed connected for 30 minutes or so, after which I was tired and shut things down. They even immediately reconnected after only power cycling one device at a time.

So far, this looks like the update we've been waiting for for years. Not holding my breath and will continue to test it. Would be curious to see if others see an improvement.

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I’ll believe it when I see it, but FINALLY! Stoked to try it out this weekend.

EDIT: tested out yesterday night, connection looks solid now (in a place where every 20s-3min the connection was previously lost). I have high hopes that now these devices work as they should have from day one.

David - Sydney said:

Yes, you can get more expensive CFe Type B cards but don't need them.

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No one forces you to buy v90 SD cards either.
I don’t do neither video or sports photography, my v30 Sandisk Extreme Pros are perfectly enough for my needs, at 10 to 20 bucks each.

justaCanonuser said:

Classical crazy fisheye, good for stunning effects. Personally, not my cup of tea, since I prefer more the tele sort of looking into this world (even landscape), but I am fascinated by such crazy lenses, too, for sort of arts photography. I should take out my lensbaby lens again, after many years I didn't touch it...
I'd love to see your images. On youtube a German guy who introduced to this lens explains that when he shoots free-hand he has to hold the camera with the hands more on its back side so they don't protrude into the image. I'd use a tripod instead of shooting free-hand.

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My "normal" shots are on my flickr page (see signature). You can see a few where I have used my EF8-15/4.
The youtube clips I have seen show crazy stuff with video slightly clipped top/bottom (16:9 vs 3:2) so getting used to it will be fun (and painful). Slight movements will drastically change the composition.
You can't have you fingers around the grip for handheld.
Similarly, I think that I will need to use a horizontal extension to avoid tripod feet being in frame unless shooting vertically.

"CFexpress Type B cards can still be expensive, and the target buyer for this camera will appreciate not having to buy memory cards that are far more expensive than SD"
@Canon Rumors
Why is this FUD still being perpetuated?!?
I love being able to transfer from my SD card to my MBP ie without needing a separate card reader and I get the backward compatibility for slow ubiquitous cards but fast SD cards have been considerably more expensive for years now in Australia and in the US.

For the sake of the US market, I did a quick check of the following.
Yes, you can get more expensive CFe Type B cards but don't need them. Buffer clearance and transfer speeds are clearly ~5x faster with ~1500MB/s sustained write speeds but they do create more heat in the body.

128GB Sandisk USH-ii 300MB/s
USD100 Amazon.com or B&H
128GB CFe type B sandisk
USD68 B&H (normally USD100) or Amazon.com (normally USD80)

512GB sandisk UHS-ii 300MB/s
USD330 B&H
USD400 Amazon.com
512GB sandisk CFe type B
USD140 B&H (normally USD150) or Amazon.com (normally USD80)

512GB Lexar 2000x UHS-ii V90
USD330 Amazon.com
USD367 B&H
512GB Lexar pro gold type B 3000MB/s write speed
USD200 Amazon.com
USD250 B&H

GMCPhotographics said:

It's the only real upgrade in the R6iii for me. The rest of the updates are a bit...meh....I'm curiously upsold to a R5ii than a R6iii. I'm looking for a 2nd camera and I gave my lovely R8 to a close friend. I like two camera bodies, ideally the same. I could just get another R6ii and be really happy for another 3-4 years and invest in some more glass and trips instead.

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Certainly not a bad idea (the trips!).
And the R6 II has become real cheap.

SvO2 said:

I wonder if the r1 or r5ii will be updated to get open gate if the r6iii does truly get it

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What's open gate? Is it a video feature? Yawn....

Del Paso said:

The improved EVF (5,6 million dots) is -for me- a massive improvement! I hope it's not only a rumor, but will be confirmed.

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It's the only real upgrade in the R6iii for me. The rest of the updates are a bit...meh....I'm curiously upsold to a R5ii than a R6iii. I'm looking for a 2nd camera and I gave my lovely R8 to a close friend. I like two camera bodies, ideally the same. I could just get another R6ii and be really happy for another 3-4 years and invest in some more glass and trips instead

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Okay let's dig into this. What are shooting exactly with your R8/R6 to where the cameras are interchangeable to you?

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I'm not sure I'd call them interchangeable. The R6 is my main camera, and the RP is my second body. Sometimes I work with two cameras, sometimes I don't, it depends on the assignment. I always carry two cameras, but I don't always take the second out of my bag.

The R8 arrived about a week ago, I haven't decided yet whether I'm keeping it or not. I haven't really felt the need, I just ordered it because I found a good deal, it cost me less than €800.

I do photojournalism (not sports), and shoot some events and live music. Reportage, generally speaking.

Why is it weird to you that a R8 can do the same as a second R6? Their autofocus is the same (in my case, specifically, the R8 is better, since I'm using the original R6), they can be setup with the same two back button focus that I use, they can take the same lenses, the same speedlites, both have EVFs, both are somewhat weather sealed, both are cameras that react quickly (which the RP isn't really)...
If I put the 28-70mm f/2 on my R6 (which I do), and the RF 70-200mm f/2.8 on the R8, I get two stabilised cameras, so missing IBIS is not a thing.
I rarely use burst shooting, so buffer size isn't an issue.

I don't feel at all the need to purchase another R6.

rombe3jr said:

Since the R8 came out about 5 months after the R6 Mark II, maybe the R8 Mark II will be released in spring or summer of 2026 with the same sensor as the R6II?

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I wouldn't expect a new R8 before 2027 lol.
The R8 came four years after the RP, in 2023.

When it comes to photography, I don’t see any reason to switch to the R6 Mark III. I’m already more than satisfied with the R6 Mark II in that area. It’s the kind of perfect hybrid camera I’d been hoping for from other brands like Sony or Fuji, which never quite managed to strike that same balance.


What could convince me to move up to the miii would be improvements on the video side, especially the addition of C-Log2 to have better control over dynamic range when needed. And since it seems to be becoming the new standard elsewhere, I’d also like to see 6K Open Gate recording. If Canon adds that, I’d upgrade without hesitation.

rombe3jr said:

Since the R8 came out about 5 months after the R6 Mark II, maybe the R8 Mark II will be released in spring or summer of 2026 with the same sensor as the R6II?

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I thought they'd keep the R8 at 24mp and have it more as a differentiator for market segmentation in regards to the R6 line. 24/35/45 mp sounds like a nice line-up.

Since the R8 came out about 5 months after the R6 Mark II, maybe the R8 Mark II will be released in spring or summer of 2026 with the same sensor as the R6II?

Canon Rumors said:

We don't need gimmicks from Smartphones in real cameras.

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I´d want a lot of smartphone features/ gimmicks in real cameras:
- it would all start with cell phone connectivity... give it an e-sim and simple data plan will. No need for SP.
- Share images directly from your camera with the pain-in-the-camera connect app...
- automatic sync options with other devices or apps (therefore, let us install apps.
- apps, that let you apply editing in camera (if desired)
- installed presets (if you want to apply them)
- apps for auto editing movie clips or selected photos. Kind a like the DJI App does it on the SP.

Cameras have the processing power and a touchscreen which is basically all one would need. And honestly, if chasing after SP users and trying to lure them to real cameras, give them some desired SP features. It would make many cameras far more attractive.

I really don't understand how at this point cameras still feel like DSLR dinosaurs from 2002. They cost thousands of dollars and heck, even my coffee machine (although I chose not to use the smart function) and moisture meter are "smart", wifi connected and work perfectly in sync with my (few) smart home applications. But the most expansive item in household does not...

A smart camera would still give/ leave everybody the option to transfer and edit everything manually (a lot of art type pics will also require manual editing imho), but it would erase the need for it.

Canon Rumors said:

Such a feature in-camera would produce a JPG which no one will want, or it will have to use DPP, which no one wants.

Why on earth would you need a hundred exposures? No one liked the R5's 400mp feature, because anything moved and the whole thing was pointless.

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You're probably right about this one. I don't know the technical aspect from this technique and how many shots it would take to erase the noise from an ISO 25.600 or 51.200 image. The fewer the better. The 400mp was a nice try. With RAW capability and HDR moving correction it would've been a great feature.

Canon Rumors said:

You can already batch stack exposures in multiple pieces of software quickly and easily.

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Yeah, but that requires transferring pics from the camera on the computer and compared to other devices a lot of time. I´d like it done in camera and I believe it could be done. It would be very convenient. It would also give me more time to shoot and require less time editing.

Chig said:

CF Express cards are cheaper than the fastest SD UHS-II cards i.e. V90 cards so unless you want to cripple your camera by using cheaper slower SD cards not sure anyone else is going to share your happiness

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I would; in an emergency I can find an SD card sold almost at every corner of a street, say basically any medium supermarket or small electronics shops would have some. A CF Express is still something exotic to find out of dedicated photography channels.

I bet if all my SD's crash at a wedding (impossible, I have three twin sets for the R6, and each set is able to store the entire wedding), I still can find one other guest with a compact camera which can borrow me his/her SD card, but I probably would find no one to borrow me a CFE

I wanted to share my (positive) experience. I downloaded and installed the ST-E10 and EL-5 firmware last night and installed on my 2x ST-E10s and 2x EL-5s. Historically, that combo drops connections within a few minutes and won't reconnect until both the transmitter and speedlite are power-cycled. It has been horribly frustrating to the point that I wouldn't use the wireless connection to the flashes. Last night, after the FW update, I tested the transmitter and speedlites and they stayed connected for 30 minutes or so, after which I was tired and shut things down. They even immediately reconnected after only power cycling one device at a time.

So far, this looks like the update we've been waiting for for years. Not holding my breath and will continue to test it. Would be curious to see if others see an improvement.

SD cards are considerably more expensive then CF express. And because of the dual SD (like the C80), I don’t see open gate coming to R6iii (

SD cards are considerably more expensive then CF express. And because of the dual SD (like the C80), I don’t see open gate coming to R6iii (the way it did for the c400)

I’m not shocked, and happy about seeing Dual UHS-II card slots. I’m actually interested in the R63, the R1 is too big to just bang around with. CFexpress Type B cards can still be expensive, and the target buyer for this camera will appreciate not having to buy memory cards that are far more expensive than SD.

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CF Express cards are cheaper than the fastest SD UHS-II cards i.e. V90 cards so unless you want to cripple your camera by using cheaper slower SD cards not sure anyone else is going to share your happiness

Dirt McGirt said:

I feel like a total fan boy, but I am 100% drooling over this camera. I'm currently shooting a 6Dm2. I've been looking to make the jump to mirrorless. I really liked the specs of the r5m2, but the price is prohibitive.

Very excited to see a date for release. Just in time for Christmas. Merry Christmas, me!

Only downside re: the new specs released is the change from the express/sd combo to dual SD. I just bought a new card reader. To prep for the r6m3, I got one with SD and express. Assuming the new specs are right, didn't need to spend the additional $. Oh well. Wasn't excited to spend several hundred dollars on express cards, either, so I'll take this as a win. Assuming buffering is now not going to be an issue.

Man. Serious first world problems over here.

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The R6 line has always had Dual SD, and I don't recall any credible reason you would think it had Express. So not a downgrade. Will be a great camera for you either way though!

I feel like a total fan boy, but I am 100% drooling over this camera. I'm currently shooting a 6Dm2. I've been looking to make the jump to mirrorless. I really liked the specs of the r5m2, but the price is prohibitive.

Very excited to see a date for release. Just in time for Christmas. Merry Christmas, me!

Only downside re: the new specs released is the change from the express/sd combo to dual SD. I just bought a new card reader. To prep for the r6m3, I got one with SD and express. Assuming the new specs are right, didn't need to spend the additional $. Oh well. Wasn't excited to spend several hundred dollars on express cards, either, so I'll take this as a win. Assuming buffering is now not going to be an issue.

Man. Serious first world problems over here.

m4ndr4ke said:

You'd probably be surprised...

I currently have the R8 in my possession (I don't know yet if I'll be keeping it, I also have an RP). I also own the original R6, which has been my main camera for the past 4,5 years and still is.

The R8 has the same sensor, image processor and autofocus as the R6 Mark II.

I see a slightly smaller EVF, a smaller battery, no IBIS, a smaller hand grip, one SD card slot, and it's missing the rear dial. That's pretty much it. How many of these missing features will affect the camera's abilities to photograph?

The camera responds and focuses as quickly as the R6, allows me most of the same controls and behaves as predictably as the R6.
No, there's no mechanical shutter, just a 6fps EFCS, which may not be relevant for many, many users, myself included.
There's a small buffer but, since I'm not shooting bursts, it's irrelevant.

It works, it gets the shot. In the past, I planned on getting a second R6, to have matching camera bodies, but not anymore. I already skipped buying a second R6, the R6 Mark II, and looks like I'll be skipping the R6 Mark III as well.

Not only the R8 encroached one unit of a R6-series camera to me, it may actually replace it.
No, I'm not picking it as main camera, but it's still replacing one acquisition.


The R8 has basic weather sealing with tightly assembled materials, similar to that of the RP, 6D Mark II, 90D, 80D and other cameras.



Wouldn't the same happen to the R5, if it had auto-standby off as well?

I usually keep my RP on top of the desk all week, to photograph the cats. It's always turned on but I allow it to sleep. The battery lasts well over a week, that way. After work, usually I don't charge the battery that is inside the RP, I just put it to personal use as is, and charge it just before leaving for a new assignment.

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Okay let's dig into this. What are shooting exactly with your R8/R6 to where the cameras are interchangeable to you?

Intersting camera, but not one I am interested in purchasing. I really wish Canon would have included a sari-angle LCD that would flip up instead of outward and then up. Appeasr to be a reasonable improvement over the R6 Mk2.