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Michael Clark · Oct 22, 2025

Maximilian said:
The graphics look pretty much like classical Double-Gauss design.
So I wouldn't expect magical resolution numbers from them.
But we know the magic such lenses might have...

I hope that the AF motor is fast enough...

And, @Richard CR, don't you think that 48.6 mm is closer to 50 mm than to 45?
Could also be named 50/1.2, couldn't it? (apart from the rumored name)

This looks considerably more complex than a double Gauss design. (Gauss was a person, thus the capitalization of a proper noun. Double is not.)

Here's the EF 50mm f/1.8 STM with a classic double Gauss design:

For more about what makes a lens a double Gauss, please see Roger Cicala's excellent article:

Why are modern 50mm lenses so damned complicated?

Kharan · Oct 22, 2025

Del Paso said:
I must say, I saw it coming...
The same occurred when the German optical industry started to face stiff competition from Asahi Pentax, Canon, Nikon and the likes. The ones who in the seventies still spoke of Japanese garbage were quickly taught a lesson...
I guess the same ones are nowadays stupidly speaking of those crappy Chinese cars.
I also keep wondering how many Sony cameras are fitted with Sony lenses. Could it be that Canon got it right and Sony all wrong? Time will tell. Fact is, licensing certainly brings far less profit than selling OEM lenses.
The market is shrinking while competition keeps growing. And tariffs don't help...

Well, I for one got a Sony A7C and two Sony zooms (28-60mm and 20-70mm f/4 G), as well as two Chinese primes. And the awesome TTArtisan adapter that adds AF to old film-era glass. Had Sony closed their mount, I wouldn’t have bought a single thing from them.

This is the key part of their strategy: get the people who buy more than one lens (i.e. enthusiasts and pros) on board, and leave the low end of the market to Canon and OM System. Sony might be #2 in sales, but they outperform Canon in terms of income per unit, indicating that they sell more expensive cameras on average.

I think it’s funny that some people speak of Sony’s decision to open E-mount as some sort of desperate move. Sony love proprietary solutions more than almost any other global company besides Apple, and have become infamous for that. But back in the day they looked at the #1 seller in photography, and noticed that they had the strongest 3rd party support of anyone in the business, thanks to a “live and let live” approach. That company was Canon, of course, in the EF days. That’s why they also dropped the silly Minolta flash shoe, and embraced USB charging in camera before anyone else. Sony, as an outsider company, could see some things that the established players couldn’t, and one of those was how important third party products are for a photo system.

Michael Clark · Oct 22, 2025

Tom R5R7 said:
The 7-series is a big seller solely because neither Nikon nor Sony have anything as good. In the DSLR days, it would have been maybe an xxD body (or a high-end Rebel), and would not have competed well with the D7200 Nikon nor the D500 Nikon, both of which were premium crop bodies. Nikon abandoned pro-level or even semi-pro level crop bodies in its mirrorless lineup, and doesn't seem to want to put anything higher than 20.9 mpx in their crop bodies. Without competition, Canon apparently sees no reason to bring the 7-series mirrorless up to the build level of the old 7D II body, which is a shame.

I have a friend who's been shooting Nikon crop bodies for quite some time. Her D7200 just gave up the ghost, and she got hold of an R7 to replace it. The level of disappointment for her is pretty large. Going from a solid 7D-level body to something closer to a Rebel isn't a step forward. Her other camera is a D850 and she is considering selling the R7 and getting a used D500 instead. Granted, the D500 only has that 20.9 mpx sensor, but it's a rock of a body.

The 7-series debuted in 2009. It sold concurrently with the 50D-60D-70D-80D-90D. During the time both were available the x0D series outsold the 7-Series by a fairly significant margin.

The Nikon D500, which many consider to have been superior to the 7D Mark II, was introduced in January 2016 barely a year after the 7D Mark II in November 2014. Nikon definitely had something just as good from January 2016 onward.

Michael Clark · Oct 22, 2025

Philnick said:
Nonsense. The two locations are the same distance from the top right corner of the camera.

Nonsense. Who holds their camera with the base of their right thumb all the way at the top right corner of the rear of the camera?

Click · Oct 22, 2025

ISv said:
No birds on that trail today... When I was thinking I will go home empty-handed (just in the last ~10 min.!!!) I saw these. I don't know what kind of Bolete it is, it grows on, and only on that trail (so far what I have seen...), and is not mentioned in any article/book about the Hawaiian mushrooms.
I had (or maybe not!!!) to remove a piece of wood in front of the smaller fruit-body and damage it little bit. On other hand it shows no blueish-brown bruising on that place. The well known for Hawaii Pulveroboletus xylophilus has no net on the stem and is bruising when damaged!

I really like your second shot. Beautiful picture. Well done, ISv.

Shirley23 · Oct 22, 2025

John Wilde said:
"just about the easiest camera that they’ve taken apart."

Canon has long been working on automated/robotic camera manufacturing. A simple design means more robots and fewer humans during the assembly process, reducing costs.

It definitely makes sense that Canon is optimizing for robotic assembly to cut costs and improve consistency.

Tom R5R7 · Oct 22, 2025

Michael Clark said:
Canon has sold more APS-C bodies than FF bodies over the course of the digital history of the EOS system. This is mainly due to price constraints for most buyers. Likewise, the lower priced APS-C bodies have outsold higher priced APS-C bodies (and lower priced FF bodies have outsold higher priced FF bodies).

The 7-Series has never been a high sales unit model compared to lower tier APS-C offerings ("Rebels" in North America during the DSLR era). The x0-Series was in between in terms of price, features, and sales numbers.

By your definition, the 7D Mark II was a "unicorn", seeing as how it was almost identical in layout, size, and shape to the concurrent 5D Mark III and then 5D Mark IV.

The 7-series is a big seller solely because neither Nikon nor Sony have anything as good. In the DSLR days, it would have been maybe an xxD body (or a high-end Rebel), and would not have competed well with the D7200 Nikon nor the D500 Nikon, both of which were premium crop bodies. Nikon abandoned pro-level or even semi-pro level crop bodies in its mirrorless lineup, and doesn't seem to want to put anything higher than 20.9 mpx in their crop bodies. Without competition, Canon apparently sees no reason to bring the 7-series mirrorless up to the build level of the old 7D II body, which is a shame.

I have a friend who's been shooting Nikon crop bodies for quite some time. Her D7200 just gave up the ghost, and she got hold of an R7 to replace it. The level of disappointment for her is pretty large. Going from a solid 7D-level body to something closer to a Rebel isn't a step forward. Her other camera is a D500 and she is considering selling the R7 and getting a used D500 instead. Granted, the D500 only has that 20.9 mpx sensor, but it's a rock of a body.

edited - her other body is a D500, not a D850. She has no full frame bodies.

m4ndr4ke · Oct 22, 2025

@padam I've always read the original R6 had a 19ms readout for photo, and the Mark II had 14ms.
Anyway, the C50 seems to be in the same ballpark.

Quack said:
It's funny how many people say that, and yet, the original method with all the shots in a "group" is so much easier if your pre-capture sequence has only one or two keepers (as mine often do), or if you have no keepers (probably 50% of mine fall into this category). Erase the whole sequence - easy. Choose one or two and save them to their own file - easy. The issue is, as usual, when something new comes along, people can't figure out how to do it right.

That's assuming you're doing any of that in-camera, which most don't. Plus, only Canon DPP can open the grouped photographs, on the computer.

ctk · Oct 22, 2025

m4ndr4ke said:
It could be on top of your desk, for instance...
You know how the lenses react when you open and close the battery or memory card door, while your camera is off, right? They extend and retract a little.

Last week I went for a stroll with a camera, something I haven't done in years. Usually I don't shoot 35, so I decided to take it as main lens, that day.
I didn't put the JJC lens hood on. I barely use this lens, might as well try making it simpler. Plus, the hood is weird anyway.

5 minutes on, I take the RP out of my shoulder bag, and the lens is like this.
It would have extended completely, with a little more time. This is the worst lens I have regarding lens creep.

Later, I get home, put the camera on my desk, remove the SD card, close the battery door, hear a weird noise, and then I realise the lens is trying to extend while the camera is on top of it. I had put the camera face down, without lens hood.
I just said in my language "I had forgotten why I hate this lens...".

Yes, I have other external focusing lenses, the 16, the 28 and the 50, but the 28 is too small to put the camera face down, and I always use lens hoods on the others - they're too small to put face down without hoods anyway.

With the exception of the 16mm, that I actually use for work, I own the 28, 35 and 50 for personal stuff.
I work mainly with the 28-70 and 70-200, two somewhat big lenses, so I usually put my cameras vertically on the table, it's not on purpose.

Seriously, I'm fed up with these weird designs...

Im not trying to be a jerk when I say this...... but maybe don't rest your camera on the lens lol. There are 5 sides much better suited for that.

Michael Clark · Oct 22, 2025

Philnick said:
Right - and go down to an entry level toy with lower resolution, no IBIS, a tiny battery, etc. etc.. No thanks.

"Leaving the top-tier APS-C body alone" and "letting it match the top tier FF bodies" are mutually-exclusive, since the actual top-tier APS-C body is the current R7 - not your imagined R5 with an APS-C sensor.

You appear to be saying "leave my imaginary camera alone" - the camera you're lusting after doesn't exist - it's a unicorn - so it can't be "left alone."

I suspect that Canon sells more R7 bodies than R5s. You may have more to spend on a camera, but there are a lot of us peasants turning out good work with our R7s. (I link to some of my work in my signature.)

Canon has sold more APS-C bodies than FF bodies over the course of the digital history of the EOS system. This is mainly due to price constraints for most buyers. Likewise, the lower priced APS-C bodies have outsold higher priced APS-C bodies (and lower priced FF bodies have outsold higher priced FF bodies).

The 7-Series has never been a high sales unit model compared to lower tier APS-C offerings ("Rebels" in North America during the DSLR era). The x0-Series was in between in terms of price, features, and sales numbers.

By your definition, the 7D Mark II was a "unicorn", seeing as how it was almost identical in layout, size, and shape to the concurrent 5D Mark III and then 5D Mark IV.

ZiemJank · Oct 22, 2025

padam said:
CVP did some C50 measurements, it's actually the same as before for stills or open gate (18ms) or a little quicker for cinema 4k video (14ms).

I see different numbers given for R6 Mark II photo mode, 14 or 18 ms. Possibly different measurement methods or some other variables. Didn't find one source for both cameras, did you?

Nemorino · Oct 22, 2025

Jethro said:
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Didn't You ask about the Laowa 25mm? I needed some time to search for images I took
and "making-of-images" I took with my smartphone.
It is a smaller lens compaired to the Canon MPE 65 and not as easy to use as"normal" macro lenses due to the high magnification.
A tripod and a macro rail is highly recommended. I bought it for less then 400€, a black friday deal last year. This made the good value for money even better.

R5m2 +Laowa 25mm macro
18 frames

and 43frames (42@ f/4 + 1 frames @ f/16)

and the "making of"

Del Paso · Oct 22, 2025

ohm said:
Is it really the same, though? China has gotten to this point through all of our factories and companies moving entire work forces to China, giving them complete access and often financing to all the machines and buildings and tech necessary to make things we used to make. Japan's optical industry didn't start like that. China got everything for free, and it is remarkable that it has taken them this long to design and create lenses of their own despite the traitorous actions of our industries.

I think you underestimate the intelligence and learning ability of the Chinese.
That they took shortcuts doesn't change that.
Besides, German industry copied the English industry in the past, the Japanese learned as well by analysing achievements by other nations etc...
Most first Japanese cameras looked strangely like Contax and Leica models.
And it's no secret that the US Intelligence is known for spying on EU and Asian industry.
It's a constant and continuing process.

GMCPhotographics · Oct 22, 2025

The spec for the new R6iii is a bit meh...and underwhelming. I think like everybody esle, I was expecting Canon to push Stacked sensors across the upper range of cameras.
The EVF resolution is a really good thing. However, the increase in sensor resolution really closes the gap between the R5ii and the R6ii. In a side by side comparision between the R5ii files and the R6iii files there will be hardly any noticable real world difference in captured detail. Effectively the R6iii becomes a R5 mki....ie an R5 without a stacked sensor.
I'm also wondering if Canon's game plan here is to sell non R5 users two cameras and not one. The R5ii is effectively Canon's "do it all exceptionally well" camera. Where as the R6iii isn't so sports / high fps orientated, so if you buy this camera then you'll probably need a R7ii as well.
It also makes users of the R5ii think more carefully what camera they choose for their 2nd camera. From Canon's perpective, its a R6iii or a R7ii. However as consumers, we have new/old stock and lightly used S/H R5 mki and R6ii to consider too.

ronbyram · Oct 22, 2025

Any news if the existing battery grip will work on the R6-3? or if there is a New Flippy screen?

GMCPhotographics · Oct 22, 2025

kypr.eos said:
€599 for the 45mm f/1.2? I think you forgot to type the 1 in front of the 599…

I think you'll find that this is Canons new "nifty 50". It'll be the lens we see on all the future product pictures of cameras going forwards. Canon will make a ton of these and sell them like sweeties. Finally! A standard prime to be proud of.

SvO2 · Oct 22, 2025

You seem to have the misconception that lower resolution means less noise

m4ndr4ke · Oct 22, 2025

Canon Rumors said:
The RF 45mm f/1.2 STM may actually launch at €499. At least the contradiction is in the right direction.

What? That’s less than the 35mm!

Okay, I hate to say this, but I think it’s time to start lowering expectations…

I know we’ve had an early price leak, but originally I expected this kind of lens to be priced at something like 799€ to 1099€, which then we’d be able to purchase at 25 to 35% less in a good day, but this is completely different.

frankchn said:
I think this should be considered a successor to the EF 50mm f/1.4 USM. It is about the same price point (after inflation) and a third of a stop faster and a bit wider in terms of field of view. It won't have any of the L lens build or weather sealing or USM, but that's fine given the price point.

Sounds like you’re right.
Not really wider though, if the 48.5mm patent is confirmed, but it's understandable they'll avoid having two lenses named "RF 50mm f/1.2" in the market.

Richard CR · Oct 22, 2025

There was quite a bit of Ricoh-related news, so instead of one article for each would annoy Craig (though that sounds like a good reason to split it up, but I digress), I decided to lump it all together. But First, The Ricoh GR IV This camera was announced via Development Announcement on May 22nd […]

See full article...

blackcoffee17 · Oct 22, 2025

David - Sydney said:
My rf70-200/2.8 and rf100-500 would challenge that assertion. Even my rf14-35/4 extends out a little but i prefer it to my ef16-35/4

Those are not external focus lenses. Only the zoom is external. They also don't extend and retract when powering the camera on and off.

HMC11 · Oct 22, 2025

ZiemJank said:
If I read these rumors correctly, then R63 would be a downgrade from R62 for me.

More rolling shutter.

Lower max ISO.

Need to buy CF card.

Not even the accelerator.

Slower processing of larger files in post.

Why to spend €3000 for that?

I hope for some surprise. Maybe at least faster readout.

I am interested to know where the rolling shutter information come from. Can you enlighten? Also, wouldn't faster readout means less rolling shutter?

P-visie · Oct 22, 2025

Philnick said:
Anyone else notice the radio silence on the R7/II? I think Canon is at war internally between (I) those who see the R7 as an "any lens telextender" and want it to have a full-size R5 body and (II) those who have used the R7 as their main camera since it came out and just want a BSI/Stacked sensor with the controls left where they are. Two different audiences - and while group I may have more money to spend on each camera, group II represents more users - including me.

You have a nice theory, but very unlikely that it is correct. The design of a camera is a long process, decisions about size, layout and buttons of the R7 Mk II have been taken and implemented quite some time ago. These are not discussions/ decisions that take place in the last months before the release of a new camera.

The posts on DPReview and Petapixel have details about the process of designing an new camera:
DPReview: https://www.dpreview.com/articles/5...it-wants-to-be-the-porsche-911-of-photography
Petapixel: https://petapixel.com/2025/10/16/the-people-who-make-your-photography-dreams-a-reality/

candyman · Oct 22, 2025

davidespinosa said:
Internal zoom is available for the 70-200 in both black and white:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1858405-REG/canon_6593c002_rf_70_200mm_f_2_8_l.html

"Indeed, the RF lenses are expensive. I still use my 100-400 II, the 70-200 II f/4, the TS-E 24 II, and the 16-35 f/4. "

Of course it is about f/4 and not f/2.8