I am very happy with the 80d's AF. Whale watching, bird in flight, my toddler running around. All performed admirably. To me, the 80d's AF is comparable to my 5dmk3. 80d is definitely the right choice for most people.

Amazon is an authorized dealer, much the same as B&H. Both offer excellent customer service. Based on the limited information you gave, it's hard to pinpoint whether there's something wrong with the camera or with the settings.

I had a 60d many years ago. 80d's noise performance is significantly better. Hope things work out better once you receive another 80d. Post pictures with settings used if problems persist.

I often use my portable background set up for larger events where I set up a studio and often a printer also.
It's generally a big hit with people.
If you have the space, you could get one of those collapsible gazebos.
They have a folding aluminium frame and have a roof made from white ripstop material. Not expensive either at a couple hundred bucks, and you can use them for years.
You always hang some fabric on the sides.

The soft reflections in the second shot are gorgeous.

She's very easy on the eyes too, and she also has lovely blue eyes.

I can confirm that's not normal behaviour. Both my units store all their settings.

one more vote for an update.

Random Orbits said:

IglooEater said:

In 2010, the lens (canon 70-200 2.8 is II) was brand spanking new, state of the art, cutting edge. Everything goes down in price after a while on the market. Now it's a lens that's getting on in it's production life. That's not to say it's a poor lens. On the contrary, I have one and it is fantastic. But the same lens released in 2018 would be even better, and cost more.
I agree with your main point- The Nikon lens is too expensive, but then, so is the Canon, which is almost the same price.
I might point out that the Nikkor 70-200 VR II still runs at $2100 vs the Canon which is at $1950, despite the Canon being a year newer. That might have been a more useful comparison to advance your point.

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So you think a 70-200 f/2.8 IS III would start at 2800? Based on the more recent releases of the 24-70 f/2.8 II and 100-400 II, I don't think it'd start that high. The Canon can be found for less than 1800. You're point was that the 70-200 II should cost around 2700+,when in fact is much less than that. The 11-24 f/4 lens is more complex than Nikon's PC 19 and still came out at a lower price. The market was growing in 2010, now it's shrinking. I think Canon understands that it doesn't have pricing power when demand is falling. Nikon thinks otherwise.

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Arrrg, man am I bad at explaining things!

No. no. no. that was never my point. My point is that the Canon was released at $2,700+ in 2010, after you calculate inflation. NOW it's an old lens, compared to the brand spanking new Nikon.
Yes I do think a Mark III would be around 2800-3000. In 2018, that will be less than the Mark II was at it's release, after inflation.
No comment on the 19mm Tilt-Shift.

rcarca said:

Great story!

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Agreed! Congrats to you both!

"Happy Wife, Happy Life"

When they disassemble the array, can i have on of those 400mm 2.8 ii ?
For free?

ritholtz said:

Looks like all Canon people who make money in photography, owns 24-70mm f2.8 II and Canon 35L f1.4 II.

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I use the 24-70mm f2.8L II for work. It's just a brilliant masterpiece of a lens. I can't recommend it enough. So good!

I don't have the 35L f1.4 II but it looks to be equally brilliant. Instead, I have the Sigma 35 Art and the Canon 35/2 IS which are both fine lenses.

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j-nord said:

Very interested now that we know 16-35iii produces too much vignetting for astro work.

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I'm in the same boat, keeping an eye on this lens for astro. Do we have any info on price and availability? Haven't heard a peep since the announcement ... :-\

As for vignetting, I'll point out that the original Samyang 14mm f/2.8 was no rock star in that category, in fact, according to the TDP tests, it was very similar to the much maligned Canon 16-35L III (if anything, slightly worse):

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Lens-Vignetting-Test-Results.aspx?FLI=0&API=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0&Lens=1073&Camera=979&LensComp=1059

We'll see what Samyang did with the new Premium lens, but considering that the lens kept the same build and form factor, I wouldn't hold my breath for a great performance at an even wider aperture of 2.4. Hope I'm wrong, of course.

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You are right the 14mm f2.8 is slightly worse for vignetting but does have a wider field of view which makes it a little easier to crop off those corners. I'm interested to see a detailed coma comparison between the 16-35iii and 14 f2.8. Even if the 16-35iii slightly out performs the 14 f2.8, it costs nearly 7x as much. Interesting to see what this 14mm f2.4 costs and how it performs.

I am still waiting for replacements to prehistoric 50mm macro (with If and silent focus motors) and an update to 180mm macro.

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You should probably check this out: http://lrs.ed.uiuc.edu/students/fwalters/para.html:

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Hi Halfrack.
In fairness the battery life test is done to a repeatable standard intended to replicate "normal" shooting conditions.
The scenario you provide is quite a long way from the average shooters setup.
I don't know which of this might be included in the standard, but the average scenario might be, IS on, AF on, image review on, default review time of 2 seconds some shots done in live view, tracking a subject with AIServo AF with the shutter button or BBF held on keeping the IS running, all of which will have a detrimental effect on battery life.
All that said I think the batteries generally last more than the specified number of shots although I have no research to back this up, it is more of a feeling.

Cheers, Graham.

kaswindell said:

rfdesigner said:

fussy III said:

This

Jat Riski said:

European ground squirrel

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is an american Grey (Gray) Squirrel

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horrible little things.. have nearly wiped out our lovely red squirrels.

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Odd, where I live the reds are more aggressive and thus dominant.

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Yours are american reds.

These are the little guys I'd like to save.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_squirrel

I quote:

http://www.canon.com/ir/conference/pdf/conf2016q3e-sum.pdf

As for interchangeable-lens cameras, in the third quarter, sales increased 8% to 1.37 million units
thanks to mirrorless models and new DSLRs

Canon, through the launch of new products, has been working to stimulate latent demand for
interchangeable-lens cameras. For the new DSLRs that were launched in the first half of this year,
like the EOS 80D, which offers improved capacity to track fast-moving subjects, and the EOS Kiss
X80 (EOS Rebel T6 in the Americas, EOS 1300D in Europe) with its enhanced ability to connect to
networks, have been enjoying strong sales. In addition, the EOS 5D Mark IV, the core model
incorporating a full-size sensor that was launched in September has been contributing to sales since
its launch thanks to the well-balanced basic performance it offers in terms of still and video shooting.

Furthermore, for mirrorless cameras, following the EOS M3, we launched an affordably priced
model, the EOS M10 last year. We continued to post strong results through carrying out focused
marketing activities by strengthening online advertising and our sales network. We were successful
in generating new demand among groups that have had little familiarity with inter-changeable lens
cameras in the past, such as women and young generations. Enhancing our lineup in this way, we are
growing our mirrorless camera market share in Europe and Americas, but especially in Asia, and this
is now beginning to serve as an underpinning factor that supports our presence within the entire
interchangeable-lens camera market

Huh. Stupid Canon knows what they are doing?

Growth rate YoY is -1% .. in other words, in a rapidly declining market - Canon is selling the same amount as they did a year ago.

Canon has sold now 4.37 Million ILC's through the end of September. We'll find out in a week on CIPA data, but that should amount to around or over 50% of all ILC's shipped this year.

HI Scott

Quite a show isn;t it?? Just that by the time Tbirds is up! the lightning was just horrible! I had to go out of the Airshow and photograph them outside to get good light,

DaveC

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Hey Dave,

Excellent shooting. You put me to shame, but I'll post a few anyway. I didn't see you there!

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jeffa4444 said:

The EF 24-70mm MK1 is not a great lens, period. The EF 24-70mm f4L IS USM is OK at 24 or 70mm but not great at 50mm. Of the present the all round EF 24-105mm f4L IS USM is a better lens. The new EF 24-105mm f4L IS USM MKII will be a huge seller Ive had a chance to use it and I will definitely be buying it.

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Mine (24-70 f4) seems quite sharp at f4 50mm.

Valvebounce said:

Hi RunAndGun.
Both my 7D and 7DII have this, you switch off and all the info disappears, pull the battery, give it a few seconds and it goes progressively darker, (but not black) and fuzzy, putting the battery back in causes an instant reversal, I guess they may have changed the way it behaves on the 5D IV.

Cheers, Graham.

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Valvebounce said:

Hi PBD.
One thing that carries on running with the switch turned off is the transmissive viewfinder screen (turn the camera off then look through the viewfinder as you remove the bttery) also there is no CR2025 battery in some of the new cameras, 7DII for example.

Cheers, Graham.

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I turned my 5D4 off, looked through the VF and then pulled the batt while continuing to look through the VF and there was absolutely no change. It appeared completely off(zero info, grid, etc. displayed) with the camera switched to OFF and with the battery pulled.

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Interesting. Maybe it's just the 7 series. I don't recall that happening in my 5D III, either. But I never looked for it.

douglaurent said:

CanonFanBoy said:

douglaurent said:

People here seem to assume that nobody at Canon does care about this website and the forum. That has to be either wrong, or it is correct and would make Canon look stupid as they would not check out social media in the year 2016 for feedback - especially when it's probably the world's best and fastest source for Canon product leaks.

Both ways would prove my points of a) the expectation that they are aware of what is said here, or b) that they are lame and ignorant and don't know what's really going on among many users.

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It is safe to say that Canon does not make market decisions based on this website OR the product information leaks.

Canon certainly doesn't follow the rants like: "I would advise Canon to..." Or, "If Canon would listen to my ideas, Canon wouldn't be so lame."

Certainly you live in Alice's Wonderland.

Sony is the answer. :

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So you say that a) Canon will not listen to any user feedback, or b) Canon will only listen to some random users from some random sources, but definitely not and never the biggest Canon social media websites, although they will include the most honest and unfiltered opinions?

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No, I am saying we are the random sources and that our influence is very near zero. Look up random. One doesn't make decisions based on random sources that are nameless, faceless, and may not even own a single Canon product. There are probably many people on this site who don't own what they say they own.

One only needs to look at the flippy screen controversy as an example: People claiming their noses change the settings have never used the product. I have a pretty long schnoz. No settings ever changed on the 70D I owned because of my nose.

Another example: There are people who said that touch screens have no business on a pro level camera. Canon would never do that. It's just a toy if it has a touch screen. Blah, blah, blah.

They were saying such things just a year ago. Now look at the 1Dx Mark II and the 5D Mark IV. Both have a touch screen. Where did those experts go? Was Canon listening to them? No. Canon listened to the market as a whole and decided the market wanted touch screens. Now, not nary a one of those forum product development experts is opening his mouth.

Most honest and unfiltered opinions? Pfhhttttt! There are very few experts here. There are zero unfiltered opinions (Look up the difference in definition between opinion and truth.). I am wise enough to admit that Canon would have no business listening to me. Every opinion I have is filtered and so are yours based on what you the individual want... not what the market will support.

Canon doesn't care about opinions of the haunters of social media sites like this. People that cannot even agree whether or not a camera is good or bad (Many times without even owning or using the product) make sites like this a piss poor place from which to make market decisions.

Canon cares about what is going to make Canon the most money. They don't care what I prefer, nor is anyone at Canon waiting to hear or read what Doug Laurent has to say about anything. Neither you nor I, pal, are that important. If either of us think so, then we truly have unrealistically grandiose opinions of ourselves and should check into a mental ward.

There isn't some guy in Japan looking at this website saying, "My God, we'd better get to making what these people (who have trouble agreeing on much at all) on this website want."

Personally, Doug, I have a Swiss Army knife. It isn't worth a darn. It has all the little tools in one small package, but almost none of them are any good for much.

For the record: I did not say that Canon would not listen to any user feedback. Canon just doesn't care about mine or yours individually. It is the market as a whole whose opinion matters. That and specific users selected by Canon that have earned Canon's respect. Not numskulls like us who mostly don't have enough knowledge or the wear with all to have a significantly informed market opinion on how to run a multinational company and know the direction product development should be taking.

Profit, market share, and sales are what matter most. These added to together = satisfied customers.

The greatest of these is profit.

So if you think that by posting on this website that you have a direct conduit to Canon's product development ear, and that Canon is waiting to read what you have to say, you are sorely mistaken. Delusional even.

This website is mostly entertainment; and I'd like to thank you personally for being so entertaining.

Sure, we all have the right to voice our opinions. Just don't start thinking Canon is waiting to read what you have to say and the CEO or anyone else is going to yell, "Yoshi! Get on it!"

Awesome. Beautiful shot. 8)

wsmith96 said:

I had an issue where my 6D would stop autofocusing occassionally when using a 70-200mm. My solution was to reseat the lens. I sent it in to canon and they changed out a circuit board in my lens which they deemed to be faulty, though I never had an issue using it on any of my other cameras. That was the extent of the description I got.

So far, so good. It's been about 2 months since the repair.

-wes

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Hi, wssmith96,
The time my camera hang was attached with 50mm f/1.4.
I took out the battery and on it again with same lens, so far that's the only incident.
Will continue to observe.
Thanks for the sharing anyway.

Hi, thanks for that.

Just tried a rocket blower, Still a few stubborn bits, I'll see how I get on next...

The LensTip 12-24mm review is complete. Low coma! Too bad it's f/4; somewhat slow for astro.

I would buy Profoto again just to use the Magnum reflector, lol

in promciple yes, but much lower percentages ...

if "old glass" means current Canon mirrorslapper EF lenses ... yes.
if by you mean old manual clunkers, then no. tiny minority of less than 1% fools, who seriously want to use their optically subpar old glass bottle bottoms designed for film on today's hi-rez image sensors. typically those folks also love "retro" cameras with lots of mono-functional wheels, knobs and buttons. and aperture rings on lenses ... la la Fuji-land denizens!

99% are people in their right mind who smartly avoid spending tons of money on freaking expensive f/1.2 crop lenses for use on crop sensors only. they buy FF sensor cameras and FF-capable lenses - either Sony or for lack of FF mirrorless FF systems by Canon or Nikon ... mirrorslapper cameras and EF or F-mount lenses.

in terms of Crop sensor MILC systems, Canon is abolutely on the right track: use a large enough sensor (APS-C, not puny m43 or punier Nikon CX), and keep it small, keep it simple, keep it affordable!

no need whatsoever for expensive, big, fat *fast crop prime lenses*. leave that tiny 55mm f/1.2 niche to Fuji-nerds.

good quality, small, convenient zooms like EF-M 11-22, 18-55, 55-200 plus a few moderately fast, very high optical quality, very small and excelkent value primes like 22/2, 28/2.8 macro are right on track. plus hopefully some day EF-M 85/2.4 STM IS plus maybe a EF-M 50/1.8. bring it on, Canon! forget about 10/2.0, 35/1.4, 55/1.2, 85/1.4 lenses for CROP sensored camera systems, not needed. buy an FF sensored camera and highly affordable f/1.8 to f/2.8 lenses ... much more sensible and way more useful!

a Canon EF/EF-M speedbooster adapter for "old" EF glass and those few, who believe in free optical lunch might sell in reasonable numbers, but not at 500 but rather at 199.

Thank you!