That depends on how much of the scene you would like to include in your photo other than the sun. As a generalization, I would recommend a lens somewhere in between the two suggested 8)

I use the 2x extender quite often on the 600mm Canon II. And yes, there is an visible lower image quality. BUT the bigger size of the subject you get, is more worth than the lower image quality. If you body knows to deal with f8, the 2x extender is definitively worth buing.

Zeidora said:

Just noticed something weird. On my 5DsR, the viewfinder goes blurry (looks like it focuses to <1 inch, so way beyond diopter adjustments) when I take out the batteries from the grip. I took out batteries from the gripped 5D2, and no change there. It happens even with MF lenses (!), both Zeiss (100 MP) as well as Canon (TSE-17). I have a matt focusing screen. Can someone explain what is happening?

The view finder is also getting darker, and I assume the default f-stop setting is kicking in. That's OK. But the blurry image is odd on an optical viewfinder with a MF lens.

Is this happening on other 5Ds/R bodies? 5D3? 5D4? Is there something wrong with my body?

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By the way. It happened on 7D2 too.

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PureClassA said:

Gotta say I'm more intrigued by what the XC15 will deliver. Also interested to see what sort of firmware updates Canon will release for existing C line. Firmware releases seem to be pretty standard now when new products come out

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I'm gonna bet you won't see a whole lot more than a microphone handle, that connects to that port and beefed-up hot shoe on top--or maybe it's just an xlr.

It's a tiny possibility that they'll put DPAF in the XC15..That would be nice....but man..it seems like they woulda done it when it came out if it was already built into the sensor, or they'd have just made it a paid upgrade. This camera is barely a year old, so it's too quick for a new sensor...especially for something they've probably sold a couple hundred of .

These "5" upgrades are usually pretty minor, single feature deals. But you never know.

I think if the rumors of an anamorphic lens are true, we may just see a 4:3 sensor in the C700. Canon generally has "Arri Envy" -- it's the only other brand the booth guys mention at NAB, so a taller sensor would make sense.

Alternatively, but I doubt it, We could see a full frame or and least a larger frame sensor. It has always seemed peculiar that their cinema glass is full frame, when the camera product line is almost all super35. It seems like from a pure roadmap point of view, some other camera besides the 1dc would use more of that lens coverage. I don't see a lot of guys putting CN-E's on their 5d's. I think we'll see some nice high frame rate options and a shoulder mount form factor. I think given they they've been showing this thing off behind closed doors since NAB15, we're probably looking at a fully industry-vetted camera that is targeted at the highest end customer. $35k+

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On a recent show & tell with the reseller we use two Canon reps confirmed that a. the sensor is modular b. a 4:3 sensor is in the works and c. a higher resolution sensor is also being developed.

Anamorphic crop from a 16x9 sensor is never ideal and the only way Canon could eat into Arri would be a 4:3 sensor. They also need to refine the options to make them more 1st & 2nd AC friendly, Arri simplified menu structure is a huge hit with crews. However the C700 is much easier to navigate that the Sony F55 its principle competitor in its current form.

Wow! They actually said that was "a good one", I wouldn't accept that answer. Send them a bunch of images again showing the issue and make them do something.

As far as I've read the Japanese photo industry is struggling very hard from the earthquake(s).
They were on better sales this year then 2015 until the earthquake and then a lot of companies had a huge slump of sales numbers because they couldn't produce anymore.

To beat a dead thread, for stars capes it is nice to have an f2.8 or bigger aperature as this allows a thirty second shot at iso 3200 or so which is good exposure for most star scenes.

Of course lenses like the Rokinon 24 f1.4 allow for like 8 second exposures at 3200 or the chance to move to 1600 iso for 20-25 Sec and get a little exposure to the right. Longer exposures don't always work here because then one gets star trails instead of points.

With an f 4.0 lens a thirty second exposure with an iso of 6400 comes close to the right exposure, but noise starts to pile up" and longer exposures bring tails

So please design us some 11-16 mm primes with f2 or larger aperature said. The new 14 rumored from Rokinon at f=2.4 promises what a half to quarter stop improvement

You can likely sell the lens on ebay for $500, so I'd do that, disclosing the condition. There are lots of buyers who do their own repairs for a much lower price than Canon charges.

aa_angus said:

Why do so many people order online? If you want the camera asap, go pick it up! Don't you have brick and mortar camera stores in America?

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I would prefer a "brick and mortar" store, but the nearest store that would have the camera within a week of release date was hundreds of miles away. I pre-ordered my 5D Mark IV online from B&H. The camera arrived via overnight shipping Friday morning, and I've been *VERY* happy with both the customer experience and the camera.

It is actually a bit frustrating that photography focused stores are so far away because I like to see (and touch) items before I buy them. My daughter is also getting into traditional "film" photography and finding a place for supplies (after her course ends and she no longer has access to their facilities) is going to be a problem, especially since the nearest place to develop film is over an hour away and they take a month to do it.

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cookestudios said:

Having reviewed the K-1 and owning the 5D4, I'm not surprised, but the point for me is that with Canon's extensive glass ecosystem, they're narrowed the gap enough that the remaining difference is outweighed by the positives of the Canon system and doesn't inhibit or bother me the way it used to. The 80D/1D2/5D4 sensors are huge leaps forward for Canon.

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Sure. Canon has so much going for it...

Glass
AF systems
Quality reputation
Customer service
Immense 3rd party accessory ecosystem
Large resale market
(unique tech on recent models: DPAF, anti-flicker, silent shutter, etc.)

...that the 'failure' the 5D3 represented to sensor testers didn't really do a damn thing to their sales. The 5D3 sold very, very well.

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Right, exactly. I used my 5D3 happily (and dare I say enthusiastically) until I upgraded to the 5D4. Was I occasionally annoyed by the limited DR and file latitude? Yes. Did it ever stop me from getting a job done? Of course not.

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I don't shoot for web...my smallest image is 2x4 feet using a 1Ds3

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Are you happy with the image/print quality? If not, what is missing? If you are happy, then it is not a question of camera, but of lenses. If you think it is too blurry, then add MPs, either a 5D4, or a 5Ds/R. But again, macro is primarily a question of lenses and reproduction size (still no indication there), not of camera. Some people consider 1:10 = macro (I don't), and you can use microscope lenses on bellows and stack 1000 frames. So, again: what do you shoot? Why are you not happy with your current set-up?

I find the noise of my 5DSr to be very pleasing, specially in B&W. I've heard others call it "film like" and I wouldn't disagree.

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A video of the M5 firmware UI:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCYmcl_t_8c

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Yeah, EOS menus, nice. Also, was that a dual-axis level I saw?!

dilbert said:

$549 for the new 70-300 ...

So not expecting that much of an IQ upgrade.

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Except that Canon's last telephoto kit lens is keeping pace with lenses worth three times more than this.
At this point just about anything could happen.

Know-nothings, apologists, excuses and nonsense?

You speak of Canon's desire to up-sell as if it's a crime, when it's just good business sense.

*Dual card slots aren't free, they require extra hardware for the slot and the processor. Only the software is almost 'free' because it could be essentially ported from one of their other bodies. Amortised over the entire production run, the cost is probably in the order of a few dollars per body. Since you're talking about canon not charging you any more, you're essentially saying they should clear less profit, which is not what business is about.

*Dual card slots do take up extra space, unless your camera is a Tardis. It's unlikely but possible that there may be empty space inside the existing body design to accommodate an extra slot without moving anything, but if not, there is a design and engineering cost associated with configuring the camera to make that space. The cheapest way to include space for an extra slot is to make the camera bigger. Most 6D customers don't want 'bigger'.

*the redundancy offered by dual cards is great, but it can be a PITA to manage the workflow, and for the way I shoot, I would have to carry another $300 in SD cards. Considering that the rate of unrecoverable corruption is extremely low, I personally don't find it worthwhile. I have had 2 cards go bad in the last 10 years, both of them cheap CF cards, and in both cases it was evident in-camera when image review failed. The cards subsequently wouldn't mount on the computer, but using some recovery software I got back all except the last few shots. I have redundancy in my storage array as well as a regular backup cycle, but don't feel the need to backup individual SD cards.

*Saving images off-camera over wifi requires software development, which isn't free, neither is support to keep that software working as new platforms are released. What model of smartphone do you want your camera to save images to, running what flavour of iOS/Android? Firmware update every time there's an Android update, or each time Samsung release a flaming new model? And should they include capacity for SFTP, Samba etc (which would be much more useful to many than clogging up their smartphone with JPEGs)?

*Given the proportion of CR forum posters (including some pros) that couldn't be bothered with using dual cards even in cameras that already support it, what proportion of potential 6D customers do you think care either way? And for those who do care, yes, there is the up-sell potential. Canon's actuaries are calculating that they will make more in upsells to the 5D3/4 than they lose from potential 6D customer choosing Nikon over the dual card issue, and if you're still ranting on this forum those actuaries are obviously smarter than you.

* I completely agree that the in-camera interface for configuring wifi is atrocious, and the current iOS app is so flaky I never got it to work on 2/3 devices, so I still use the old "EOS Remote" app. Not to mention that video is disabled while wifi is on. Those issues need fixing IMO long before adding the ability to save everything straight to your smartphone. But guess what? Even if they don't fix the crummy wifi implementation with the 6DII, will it stop me from upgrading if it has more high-sensitivity cross-type PDAF points +/- DPAF, and a flippy screen, and the same or better IQ? Of course not, I care about the camera as a tool for making the images, and the facility of getting them off camera let alone onto social media ranks a distant, distant 2nd.

*I still remember heading off on a 3 month summer break with two Olympus OM 1 bodies and 16 rolls of KR64 and 8 rolls of FP4 in my backpack. Successfully wheedling with airport security in S America and India to let me walk the films around their ancient looking x-ray machines. Waiting weeks after my return to get the slides back from Kodak, and save up the money to process the B&W. No "waaah waah waaah, DADDY, I WANT REAL-TIME REPLICATION!!" back in those days.

K said:

I had a CF card go bad in my 5D3 (Sandisk Extreme Pro 32gb), the SD card saved the day. Unfortunately, some short video clips taken were lost because those are saved to the CF card.

Anyhow, this is what I been preaching around here - but the know-nothings and/or apologists for Canon attack me as if I'm asking for too much for a 2nd slot.

I expect this feature in every Canon DSLR that retails for more than $999. Nikon does it, Canon can too.

Everything else is excuses and nonsense.


It doesn't add any cost (see Nikon D7200), so it can't be that. It's simply Canon attempting to deter any commercial use of DSLR's that they don't consider part of a pro-series. An attempt to push users up to more expensive models.

What they don't realize is, I and many, many users out there want data redundancy for personal and casual use too. I don't want my photos taken on an expensive once in a life time vacation lost because of some stupid SD card failure. I don't want to lose the precious moments of family lost because of an SD card failure.

I'm hoping their M5 has the same file transfer capability as the 5D4. It's SOFTWARE...they can easily offer it. Forget this Canon Connect nonsense where you have to browse photos and pick and transfer.

What would work better is being able to tell the camera to automatically transfer all JPG to smartphone. This would backup photos AND put them in the place the whole world wants it to be for easy sharing....Much like Eyefi but a native, more solid implementation of it.

These cameras have Wifi. It is a simple SOFTWARE inclusion. Failure to offer this is intentional crippling on Canon's part. Denying functionality to try and up sell.

The 6D2 should at least offer this capability if not a 2nd card slot. It doesn't take up any space, and doesn't cost anything. It's only a matter of Canon wanting to give it out. I'd prefer the 2nd slot since the 6D2 is more of an enthusiast camera than a travel camera...but speaking of those.....


This is why I won't buy these silly travel cameras even though I want one and could use one. I'd rather take decent cell phone pics that I know will be preserved and can easily share.


These companies need to wake up and fast, or they will be left in the dust. Travel compact cameras are already a dying breed. People have to suffer the inconvenience of even carrying a separate device (camera)....the manufacturers of such devices should offer up as much as possible to make up for that inconvenience. In other words, if I have to carry another device to get great IQ, I shouldn't have to suffer any other downsides.

Unfortunately, there are many other inconveniences and downsides. Such as annoying and inconvenient sharing capability as well as no data redundancy. This stuff is killing that whole market segment. Few people want to deal with that crap.

Canon Connect and Nikon SnapBridge are garbage in the sharing realm. Use an app to browse the card on the camera and then transfer? Total nonsense.


Nothing short of direct and automatic wireless transfer of JPG to smartphone will save that camera market segment. That way, the camera becomes an extension of their cell phone. A tool for feeding it. Almost the same way a medium format tethers to a serious workstation. A travel camera wireless tethers to a smartphone.


The Canon M5 should have it, all the Rebels and the 80D should have it.

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Quick buffer test with my lexar 1066x. 21 on one scene, 23 on another.

The new EF-M 18-150 seems a bit expensive, and it appears to have a plastic mount, too.

ahsanford said:

DPR and DXO drop their hammers on the same day? Shocking. :

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- A

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A bit saddening... I kind of hoped canon would stay out of bribing, ehem, paying well for an unbiased review..

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jhanson25 said:

To make a short story long......

I'm on my 2nd 7D II body due to the first one not hitting focus at all when using servo mode with my 70-200 II. No AF micro adjustments could fix the issue. Canon sends me a new one with 1.05 firmware. Again, soft focus with my 70-200 IS II. My 70-200 is TACK sharp on my 6D, 60D etc.... So I roll back to 1.04 and find the heavenly sweetness that is sharpness out of my 2.8 again! Today I decided to update to the new firmware to see what the story might be. Each time I tested the different firmware it was under the same conditions and same subjects. 1.10 gives me SOFT focus again!! I cant even get tack images @ 1/5000th @ f/8 in mid day! Mother....!!! Looks like it's back to 1.04. Not that I needed 1.10 but something is a miss here for sure! It's only the 70-200 II that has the issue on the 7d II body. Siggy 18-35 1.8 and STM 50 1.8 were fine with any firmware. I know there is a lot of debate over the "soft focus" of the 7D II. When one firmware gives me tack images and the others soft with no changes other than firmware... I'd say we have an issue.

Thoughts?

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SAME THINGS HAPPENED TOO ME I ROLLED IT BACK TOO THE FACTORY FIRMWARE AND MY PICS WERE BETTERBUT THEN THE MISSED AF AND SOFT FOCUS AME BACK VIA THE NEXT FIRMWARE THEN I TOK IT TOO PHOTOTEC NYC ON WEST 36TH AND THEY FOUND OUT ALOT OF 7D2 HAVE DESIGN FLAW THE SENSORS WERE TILTED A LIL WHEN ASSEMBLED IN THE CAMERAS ITS WHY THE CAMERA MISS FOCUS

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Just to clarify, it's the AF sensor that was tilted or mismounted during assembly, not the image sensor. The tilt cannot be fixed without damaging the sensor or mirror box and therefore the entire mirror box needs to be replaced. The condition can degrade over time. I assume that means the poorly mounted sensor can move causing inconsistencies.

Should be covered under warranty. Mine was.

pokerz said:

AvTvM said:

pokerz said:

Can you tell the reason why aperture ring is useless?
How you make a stepless/ smooth aperture change on camera body while shooting movie?

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because any reasonable digital camera has one or more very decent physical controls to vary aperture size. those control elements are called back wherl and front wheel and/or touch LCD plus proper firmware. control can be clicked in full, half or 1/3 stops or smooth action ... as user prefers and sets it.

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Which Canon DSLR/ Mirrorless has said function? ;D

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every single EOS M ever made from M 1st gen to M2, M10 and M3. all have at least 1 wheel and a touch LCD to control aperture in Av and M. video? dont care, go buy a video camera.

3kramd5 said:

Nylon sounds good, or polyamide, but not plastic.
Carbon fiber sounds good, but not carbon fiber reinforced plastic.

I often wonder where "plastic" got such a stigma

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maybe from all those global corporations that decvastated our planet for many decades with disgusting, disfunctional, butt-ugly, precious natural respurce-wasting, never rotting, often poisonous, sickening and cancer-causing f*cking "plastic" ... like that infamous PVC ... which still is not banned everywhere?

if anything has fully deserved a bay name then it is "pöastics" and "nuclear".

Canon Rumors said:

AXIS Q1659 delivers 20MP resolution at 8 frames per second (fps), achieving unprecedented levels of detail for observing open spaces and across long distances. It features digital single-lens reflex (DSLR) imaging technology and offers a choice of 7 different EF/EF-S lenses depending on individual user needs. Equipped with an EF lens mount, the camera enables easy lens changes.</p>

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Will have to keep my eyes open for these when I'm out and about - might be an easy way to extend my lens collection!

Everything is changing very fast. It makes me have to learn all the time.

I thought immediately that it must benefit me, certainly.

Another change... the battery door from the camera is much easier to attach to the shaft of the new grip. You no longer have to retract the hinge pin to insert it into the holder, it just slides in sideways and closes now. Much simpler/easier design.