Canon EOS 80D Manuals available

Sharlin said:
Tugela said:
Since they are building a new camera it is reasonable to presume that they would use new components as well, and not just change the shape of the body slightly. So that cost is already built in. The actual increase in manufacturing costs for something like that would be on the order of 0.5 cents.

Engineering doesn't really work like that. You always reuse as much as you can. Any change in design takes time and money to prototype, develop, validate and test. Manufacturing costs aren't really relevant. R&D costs are.
I don't know what and how much can/could be reused in 80D coming from 70D.
When you think about new sensor+new DIGIC+new AF it's hard to believe for me that the card slot was so modular that it could be reused with all the other changes. If it was so, then this modularity would have helped a lot to include a new UHD II module (maybe used in a P&S before? ;) ).

But you're right in principle about R&D costs split over the sales numbers.
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"Sony Upsets full frame market"

neuroanatomist said:
martti said:
Do you guys really have to spoil the ambiance here with your peeing contests?
Just asking.

A thread entitled 'Sony Upsets full frame market' is a silly premise to begin with, there's nothing to spoil here. Just saying.


Silence is golden, golden
but my eyes still see


(Brian Poole and The Tremeloes)
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The 1-inch Sensor Myth (Fraud?)

OP here (yes again, sorry).

Just a casual survey to see how the various manufacturers call their 1-inch sensors (quotes from their own websites, not website reviews):

Canon G7XMK2: 1.0-inch
Nikon DL18-50: 1.0 inch type
Lumix FZ1000: 1-inch
Sony RX10: 1.0 in type (13.2x8.8mm)

Interesting that some of them add the ".0" as if to add more accuracy to something that is inherently inaccurate. Also interesting that Sony clarifies the actual size (Kudos to Sony). Confusion abounds, I guess.
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Is my 430EX II dying?

kaswindell said:
You should probably contact Canon

As soon as I get a free day I will, the closest Canon repair center is like 2h away for me. However, depending on the answers here, it might not be worth the trouble (let's say I need to replace something that costs 80% of the price of a new unit).

Just hoping for someone with a similar issue to answer.
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There Will be a 4K 5D Camera [CR2]

3kramd5 said:
nautal said:
Megapixels are great, 30 does sound like a sweet spot (I'm not doing the math, Just sayin')

What math would define a resolution sweetspot?

nautal said:
however, if I could get the dynamic range it would be amazing.

What is the dynamic range you'd be amazed to get?

1. Did you read the quote, "I'm not doing the math"?
But since you are a techy math person that is more interested in numbers that you can crunch and analyze than getting out there and shooting something that will move people, accelerate your career, touch your soul..
6708x4472= 30MP= 5.3666 Pixel Pitch which is close to 4.11 microns Pixel pitch 7d Mark II giving better reach, closer than predicate 5d3, while being able to use all my full frame glass (no crop center of glass) without buying an extra sensor/camera.
Having the advantage of larger Pixels for light gathering, benefits of FF, etc.
Second, 30MP is easy to figure out the minimum count of shots will fill up a particular card/HDD/etc instead of 20.2 or 24.x,50.xMP, etc.
Third, it gives us a rough 1.75:2.0 ratio (UHD) (1.638:2.07 4K), granted it is not the ideal 36MP(UHD), but this is a good comprise for a camera designed for stills with options for light videography.

2. A true 16+ stops of dynamic range using Canon Log2.

And I would like to add to my list, low light color noise control, we all know that color noise is something canon's have had, particularly red, less on blue but still prominent. Smoothing would go along way in low light situations for the new sensor.
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The Canada Gravy Train on Lenses About to End?

Just pulled the trigger on the new 35mm 1.4ii becasue of this mess. I was hoping to get it later but I better not risk it. "The Camera Store" worked out to free shipping and $10 less on taxes then 5 others I looked at. Most were the same price but for some reason I cheated a tiny bit with thecamerstore and not entirely sure why... ??? I'm happy anyhow despite the forced rush. Time to fund this thing now ha ha! :P
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How to update Phottix Mitros+ ???

I downloaded the 1.07 update from Phottix. I hooked the flash to the computer with a Micro USB. I just can't get anything to happen. If I drag and drop it says the file is much too large. There is almost nothing showing as being in the flash. One nonsense file and one file about volume.

Could this be something to do with Windows 8? I can't find any YouTube videos or anything.

Thanks.

Mechanicals

Hi Folks.
Though they are not true macro shots, I have some mechanical detail shots that seem to fit here better than anywhere else These are some jobs I'm working on (or have worked on) for proof of condition or just the customers scrap book, these are all from classic Triumph cars so the owners want their photos for the history file.
I generally have my camera and flashes on wall brackets with a timer remote so it is almost a timelapse situation and I pick the more interesting shots just in case you thought I was spending all my time taking pictures. ;D Some jobs do require hand held shots, there are fewer of those.

General layout of the gearbox.
IMG_1421_DxO by Graham Stretch, on Flickr

Looking end on to the 1st gear laygear teeth to show they are not worn to points. I think the coloured Splodge is a nitryl glove finger print in oil.
IMG_1419_DxO by Graham Stretch, on Flickr

Looking end on to the input shaft teeth to show they are not worn to points. I like this one for the Bokeh on the shaft that is sticking up. this is the item top left of the general layout shot.
IMG_1445_DxO_2 by Graham Stretch, on Flickr

Measuring the endfloat of the gear on its bush using a surface table and DTI.
IMG_2956_DxO by Graham Stretch, on Flickr

A seriously worn timing chain with the adjuster about 1/8th inch from popping out.
IMG_2181_DxO by Graham Stretch, on Flickr

Top the new chain, bottom the old chain, the degree of sag is a good indicator of condition.
IMG_2187_DxO by Graham Stretch, on Flickr

Top the new chain, bottom the old one, if the sag didn't show the wear, the stretched length does!
IMG_2189_DxO by Graham Stretch, on Flickr

The new timing chain installed and adjusted so that there is just a small gap on the tentioner just in case there is some excentricity on any of the new sprockets it will not go over tight.
IMG_2196_DxO by Graham Stretch, on Flickr

Laygear pin showing the surface spalling to explain why the gearbox makes a noise.
IMG_2226_DxO by Graham Stretch, on Flickr
These are all taken using a 20D with 17-85mm kit zoom using either 2 Triopo flashes set obliquely over the bench or one on camera for the engine shots.

Thanks for looking, I hope they are of some interst, I welcome criticism with the caveat that I'm fixing cars not running a photography studio! :o ;D

Cheers, Graham.
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World Press Photo of the Year 2015 winner only uses 5DMk.II & 3 primes!

ecka said:
benperrin said:
ecka said:
1. Gear matters.
2. 5D2 is a great camera.
3. Camera is a tool. Better cameras are better tools.
4. Populism like "it's not the camera ...", is an artsy narcissistic BS. Trust me
+1

People who say the camera doesn't matter are full of it. Not to say it's the only part that matters but it certainly does. The problem lies where people think that only your gear matters. That is just as incorrect as saying gear is not important. Better gear can open up new and exciting opportunities. Post processing also can. There will be plenty of photos that no amount of post processing can save but it can enhance great images as well. Take them to a new level. People make far too big of a deal about new cameras. I've had people tell me that the 5d2 can't take good images, of course talk like that is bs.

Also people often argue these points from their own favourite photographic genres. Photo journalism will have different requirements to landscape and sports photography will have a different set of requirements again. This needs to be remembered when arguing the point. The best camera is not the one you have with you, it is the right tool for the job. I'd hate to use an iPhone for bird photography.

+1

"It's not the camera, it's the tool behind it."
::)

+1000

Will use that saying next time.
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The beauty of CF cards.

Woah, tone it down a bit. Who made you grumpy this Sunday?

I am not saying what you are doing is wrong but I am just sharing a different workflow to your conventional one.

Or are you mad that I am able to sell my old cards at a price people are willing to buy them for?

CF cards are nearing end of life as a format standard and not a lot of people know this.

If anyone has cards that are smaller than 64GB it may be time to sell em before they become worthless as betamax tapes.

Today, Canon sells 4 bodies and Nikon sells 3 bodies with CF slots. I expect this to be reduced to 3 Canon bodies and 2 Nikon bodies by the end of the year.

CFast and XQD will replace CF and I really wish they just consolidated it to a single replacement to leverage economies of scale.
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Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II, Free CFast Card & Reader About to End

Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II, Free CFast Card & Reader About to End

R1-7D said:
Does anyone know if you need to put an actual despot down to preorder, or can I just add my name to the list? I'm buying in Canada but live in the UK currently.

It depends on the retailer, for instance B&H ran my credit card within 24 hours for my 1DX MkII preorder, Adorama don't run the card until the item is in stock and ready to ship. So get in touch with the specific retailers you are interested in buying from and find out their specific policies.
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Patent: Moving the Sensor to Improve Contrast AF

alliumnsk said:
rfdesigner said:
Tllt shift lenses won't become obsolete due to this.

At the moment TS lenses move the image circle by about 12mm in each direction, (24mm movement overall).. To do this they have a huge image circle vs normal lenses (~68mm vs 44mm), so even if you could move the sensor by +/-12mm in each direction then you'd run out image circle.

If there were Tilt-only lenses then it might make a difference, but as there aren't it doesn't matter.
TS lenses are inconvenient.

don't disagree.

alliumnsk said:
It's possible to make shift perspective change in PP rather than using lens with more coverage. Olympus even has this function in-camera for framing via EVF. Also, when you shift lens you're using its less sharp part of image.

All true but this has absolutely nothing to do with the patent.
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The Next DSLR from Canon Will Be...

tron said:
dilbert said:
slclick said:
4D won't happen due to 'shi'.

People said the same thing of Nikon, yet there was the D4, D4s. From Canon there has also been a 400D, 450D.
And 40D (my first DSLR). But maybe 4 is/sounds different than 40 and 400... It is interesting to note though that Nikon jumped from D300(s) to D500... although they did not have trouble making D4(s)...

The Canon difference is putting the numeral first. The single digit has the shi sound not necessarily the 4XXXXX what have you iirc. Nikon's use of the D4 is similar to Canon's Mark usage.
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Now that...

Maximilian said:
Hi K!

Although I can follow a lot of your arguments, I mus say that ...
K said:
...
My guess ...
the 6D2 ... sports a 28MP sensor ...
the 5D4 will have a 24MP sensor ...
... if that guess comes true I'd be really surprised.
The "entry level FF" having a higher resolution than the "Pro Alrounder"? :o
But we'll see for sure... ;)

agree. I expect that the 5D4 to have higher resolution than the 6D2.
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