mackguyver said:

That said, if Canon releases any of the following rumored or imaginary items, arranged in no particular order, I'd be in the pre-order line:

Lenses
1. 16-35 f/2.8 III (with improved IQ)
3. 12-24 f/4 (I loved the 12mm FOV with my Sigma)

Bodies
1. 7D II with near-full frame IQ and still 8FPS or better (would love built-in GPS as well)
2. 5D IV with 36+ MP
4. M3 with the 70D sensor

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It looks like some of my wishlist has come true. The 16-35 came, but with IS and f/4. I bought it and love it. Sold the 16-35 f/2.8 II. The 7D II arrived, but I'm passing for now. The 12-24 f/4 arrived as the 11-24 f/4 and I've pre-ordered one. The M3 has arrived as well, but not in the US, so I'll hold off for now. The 5Ds has also been announced and after looking at the sample images, I think I might have to order one to replace my 5DIII.

I think it might be time to sell some gear - maybe one my TS-E lenses and my much beloved, but dust-collecting 24L II. I think I'll hang on to the 16-35 f/4 IS for now as it's about as close to the perfect travel lens as you can get. The 5DIII will also go as we head into summer if I decide to the get the 5Ds.

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Viggo said:

mackguyver said:

Has anyone figured out what this does?

Improves the AF controllability when shooting in Live View mode with a wide-angle lens (fixed focal length or zoom).

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I'm curious also, wonder if the 2470 classifies as a "wide angle" lens?

Installed and working at least.

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I'm hoping it fixes the issue that happens when you scroll to the edges of the LV AF area (which isn't the edge of the screen) and the cursor/zoomed view snaps back to the center. Hopefully it will just stop now, and won't surprise me by jumping back to center making me scroll all over again. Or better yet, maybe it will go to the edges of the screen and stop there.

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I finally got around to updating my 1D X & 5DIII last night and I'm very happy to report that it does fix this really annoying issue! I'll be a much happier LV camper now ;D

jeffa4444 said:

What we do likely know is it will have a sensor based on current Canon tech rather than a new breed of sensor if the camera comes in 2015 as the 5DS & 5DS R are not coming out until late May in Europe & June in the US.

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Is it even realistic to think that the 6d might come out in 2015? When looking at the interval between the 7d and 7d ii, it's pretty "shocking" how long it can take the slow moving giant to bring out it's next child. Somehow I cannot believe that the 6d ii will show up in 2015.

5ds R - late may 2015
5d IV - Q4 2015
6D II - Q1-Q2 2016

??

memoriaphoto said:

I've found later canons to be more "disney" like in the color response.

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What exact models are you talking about? I'm really not very knowledgeable on the color matter and would like to learn about it - but at least my 6d seems to do ok from what I can see. What are the exact criteria for your evaluation?

Here we go. High Resolution Product Photos. And the missing video Specs too.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/news/unveiled-canons-new-506mp-5ds-5ds-r-dslrs-and-11-24mm-l-series-lens?cm_mmc=EML-_-NewAnnouncement-CanonSamsung-_-150205-_-Body_Explora_Canon-5DS-ReadMoreBttn ;D

"EOS 5Ds is equipped with a CMOS sensor of the effective number of pixels about 5,060 million pixels of Canon's proprietary development, realize the shooting of overwhelming high resolution"

That's goona chew through memory cards

Honestly, I feel that 5ds camera are overpriced despite all those great features. But I'd pay for the 11-24 f4 lens right away if I were doing landscapes/architecture. I'm crazy...

Availability on 06/2015 will be a little frustrating for many buyers...

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fish_shooter said:

Famateur said:

I'd be very surprised to see the 1 Series get a split any time soon, at least before a 1DX Mark II comes out.

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The 1D is currently split into X and C lines. It will be interesting to see if there will be a 1D C Mark II or not. Presently, there is probably more need to update the 1D C compared to the 1D X. For example, improved slow mo, add video functions such as peaking. As well 1D C Mk II could include Canon's video PDAF.

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Agreed. I made that disclaimer in one of the other threads but failed to add it here. It's a good point. That said, I think the Cinema line is considered by Canon to be a different enough animal than photography that it probably doesn't fall within the same market/product segmentation discussion.

With the recent price drops on both the 1DX and 1DC, they're probably both getting a refresh. Will be interesting to see what comes...

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I'll keep repeating my prediction. 1DC and 1DX go away. Replaced by 1DX2. The 1DC is literally nothing more than a 1DX with a 4k firmware and Codec added in. Same sensor. Same body. Same CPUs, same FPS, same AF points, same EXACT camera. In 2015 it makes no sense whatsoever anymore. The original 1DX came out before 4k was "thing" and Canon reacted by taking that camera and adding the 4k codec and a hefty premium.

Think of it this way.

Is the 1DC going to get revamped with a new DPAF sensor? YES

Is the 1DX going to get revamped with a new DPAF sensor? YES

Short of Canon employing a totally NEW sensor in a new 4k DSLR built exclusively for video (like the a7s) these two cameras will become one.

We should have 2, 4k Canon DSLRs by year end. a 5D4 with mid-upper twenties MP and a 1DX2 with lo-mid twenties (I'd LOVE a 6D style 20.2MP sensor with DPAF added or a 5D3 22MP sensor with DPAF added), a whole new kick-as$ 101 point AF dual cross whatever etc...

If a new 1DC2 comes out and costs $12000 again ($4k above a separate 1DC2), Canon can put a gun in their mouth and pull the trigger on that one. If they come out with a single 1DXC or 1DX2 at $7-8K being the best action cam and has superb 4k.... They will sell a lot.

Mackguyver,

Thank you very much for the examples. This was exactly what I had in my mind.
As far as the tilt function is concerned... well.... I dont remember taking one picture successfully so far where there was a great DOF at f3.5. Just don't know how to do it! :'(

Anyway, I will likely get one for this kind of situations even though I use my 16-35 much less then the 24-70 ! So difficult to compose a landscape in this UWA

Thanks everybody

Dholai

IMHO

• Higher ISO than 1Dx m1 - or when 1Dx get's a newer version - the older will kill the 5Dm4 sales.
• DualPixel AF ver. 3
• 24MP is in no way a mild increase. They could at least try with 28 MPs

My bad! ;-) Thanks!

Hi kphoto.
Yes Canon make some terrific lenses, I'm not sure about mounting them on eye glass frames, I think it would require a more substantial mount, and may quickly be responsible for neck ache unless the pancake prime lenses are your prescription! ;D

Cheers, Graham.
Ps Sorry couldn't help myself! :-[

kphoto99 said:

BTW, I can get Nikon lenses for my glasses, can I get Canon lenses?

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typically 70-90% of the current purchase price of new unit, I think. but it also depends on the condition of your lens and any warranty left over.

super telephoto lens can be harder to sell due to smaller pool of users. may takes weeks or months to find a buyer who will not depress your asking price.

jdramirez said:

I would think that is what the 7d line would be for.

RLPhoto said:

I don't think it will merge. The Specs are impressive for a rebel but rebel's cramp my hand after shooting awhile. A 50D never hurt my hand with its bigger frame.

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7D2 is a big price jump from a rebel and only for a bigger grip? I don't see it.

I got the camera yesterday and I am really enjoying it. Definitely a totally different shooting experience than with my 5d3. I'm actually pleasantly suprised with the autofocus speed/acuracy. I think I had very low expectations and perhaps that's why I'm so happy with it. I've read (and found to be true) that the best way to use the camera is to put it in manual focus mode and use the AEL/AFL button on the back to activate autofocus. Then you can tweak it with manual if you want (and it's pretty fun using the focus peaking and digital split image tools). It definitely is not as fast as my 5d3 with my 70-200 on it, but it's faster than my 85mm 1.2 for sure (which obviously isn't saying much). It's also pretty great how much you can customize this thing.

Great to know. Thanks, TAW and tphillips63.

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Hector1970 said:

Machaon said:

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

They have pretty well thought-out ergonomics and their consistency allows us to migrate between bodies with little effort.

Any radical change would likely be a step, fall or plummet backwards. Why do change things for the sake of a gimmick unless there was some huge gain to be had?

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If it ain't broke, don't fix it was probably Microsofts philosphy and it allowed Apple to flourish. Now Apple have the same problem with it's user interface. It's hard to improve it without a radical change whereas Android probably has alot more scope to change gradually.
This is evolution I suppose. The dinosaurs were pretty happy they way things were at some point but the small furry animals adapted and modified to the changing world.
Usually we don't spot extinction coming until it's too late.

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Software is not a camera. I'd hate if my camera layout moved as much as software does.

rs, please see answers inline in blue.

rs said:

No. The largest possible square supported by the 43.27mm image circle common across the EF lens system is just under 30.6mm x 30.6mm. Anything bigger than that would result in corner shading.

The goal is not to get a perfect square output, but to get the maximum the image circle can produce. It's better to crop corner shading in post, than to crop a large fraction of the image circle with every shot.

• Some EF lenses have a rectangular baffle, such as the 70-200, optimised for a 3:2 image format. This would allow for a theoretical maximum 24x24mm square sensor

Remove the baffle and stop producing lenses with such baffles. Do they serve any specific purpose which can't be accomplished with other features?

• Many lenses have petal shaped hoods, optimised for a 3:2 image format. This again means a 24x24mm sensor Replace the hood. Plastic is cheap.
• If using the DSLR format, the 44mm flange distance would be pushed over the limit to allow for a 36mm image height mirror - This was addressed in a previous post: this large sensor would either require a major redesign of the mirror assembly, or would need to wait for maturity of mirrorless.

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Regards,

Orangutan

PhotographyFirst said:

Wow, the Canon 6D is looking like quite the dog spec wise these days.

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Well, that's not hard to do - the 6d essentially is a good sensor in a "as cheap as they can get away with" body plus wifi/gps gimmicks.

PhotographyFirst said:

AF 19-point cross-type. Center F2.8 corresponding dual cross
7560-pixel RGB-IR photometry sensor. 63 zone TTL metering
The shutter speed is 30 seconds -1/4000 seconds (Synchro 1/200 sec)
Continuous shooting 5 frames / sec.

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I think the 70d has a problem... are they going to do a 80d or dump the xxd line?

Hi nvsravank.
My understanding is that the reduced raw formats are not supported by any 3rd party software, though that may have changed recently and passed me by. This would leave you reliant on DPP, but if that is not a problem then others will no doubt be able to answer your image quality question.

Cheers, Graham.

I don't care about video at all, so fine with me. The 5D4 will probably have more videographer enhancements (aug 2015).

Hello,

I've noticed the following problem after update to latest firmware 1.3.3:

Lens is Zeiss ZE APO Sonnar 135mm f/2.0

In live view Av mode, aperture set to f/2.0, camera changes aperture (closes it by itself) when lighting conditions changed. Displayed value stays on f/2.0, but looking into lens you can see that aperture closes down. It happens dеspate exposure simulation is enabled or disabled.

In movie live view mode camera behaves as normal.

I would like to ask if anyone else has the same problem?

I currently use a 1Ds3 and will be buying the 5DS R for my studio floral stuff and some
landscape, and...am a avid PS CC user.

When I open an image on my monitor, am I going to notice a difference in overall IQ with
this new body or is that image merely going to be larger in size?

PS, when might I be able to download a manual before the purchase?

I was very dissapointed that I could not use my st-e3 With my Mamiya RZ67 pro II, as I hoped to be using my Canon lights With that camera. I found a workaround, thus having to shoot in manual by using inexpensive PW X Plus. The additional bonus for me by using PW triggers was that by buying a small chip for my Sekonic meter, I could now lightmeter my lights in my studio without having to use my prescious film I have not tried any of the Youngno Products, but I am seriously considering buying a couple of Youngno 600ex rts to compliment my canon flashes, as I have seen several reviews that states that it is unproblematic to use these together.