So.... now that some time has passed what do you all think?

I'm thinking we got duped.

What I can't figure out is why. What motivation could that site have had? It's a store right? Why tarnish your perceived integrity?

So that brings me back to thinking maybe it's real, but that's quite some advance notice they got. It's been 3 weeks and there's no possible opportunity for an announcement for weeks.

It's a puzzle, or maybe the site got duped themselves.

Honestly, I love the 6D, I shoot all of my wedding photography on that camera. I have no problem focusing (I only use center point) and recompose. If I had one complaint, at that price point, like Nikon, I'd like to have dual card slots, just for peace of mind/backup. Cards are not too expensive, and an extra 150 bucks would cover a wedding in card space. I don't find 1/4000 to be limiting; I suppose a higher flash sync speed would be nice, but I can work around that as well. I'm really just wanting Canon to keep up with Nikon so I don't have to start selling lenses I saved money for years to buy.

NancyP said:

Dustin, very effective use of the 14mm FL, nice compositions. Thanks for sharing. I find 14 mm challenging on FF cameras.

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Filters are very expensive. I actually enjoying using the 14mm focal length as I find it very dramatic. It does require a completely different way of thinking in composition, though.

P.S. Everyone: I was out in the field with Camdiox filter. Unlike the homemade solid ND filter I made (using LEE film), the Camdiox combined with the Samyang/Cokin ND grad produced a magenta cast. Bummer. It seems to be fine on it's own, but I really got it mostly to use in combination with the ND grad. Something doesn't agree there.

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I'm currently unemployed having gotten fed up with my former career and I also suffer from bipolar II disorder and chronic insomnia. Through the ups and downs, the one thing I still really enjoy photography. I like wildlife photography, although I'm limited by my equipment and I can't really afford to travel. I also enjoy taking candids of people at parties and such, though I don't think the life of a wedding or event photographer would be compatible with my struggles with anxiety and depression. I also enjoy taking pictures at local clubs where no flash photography is allowed, but my current equipment struggles in low light. My apartment has no windows exposed to light so it's hard to do much indoors.

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I reread your post and realized some important details. Insomnia and depression are strongly influenced by the environment. The biological clock regulates the cycles of day and night. the fact that your home does not have windows to the outside environment, affect the perception of time to feel sleepy.

Recommend leaving home in the morning sun, and physical exercise daily. By nightfall, avoid bright lights and also TV screens or computer, which stimulate the body to stay awake. Search on Melatonin supplements, which can help regulate the cycle of sleeping and waking.

If photography gives you pleasure, practice and share this pleasant pastime with people nearby. If the noise in the images of his 7D bothers you, you should not be very pleased with any other APS-C camera to shoot in nightclubs without a flash. Seems to me that 6D is suitable for your use.

Honestly, I do not recommend investing in wildlife photography. This would only be rewarding if you could travel very often carrying heavy equipment and invest a lot of money. Your GAS (mine too) is a facet of anxiety and competitiveness in this type of photography can be harmful.

When you have a stable job, then think more seriously expensive equipment and travel required for wildlife. However, visits to the zoo unpretentious usually pleasant and without competitive pressure.

ist really sure we will see 50MP FF cams, as we will see 50Mp APSC cams and as we will see 50MP phone cams

question is when and what is the benefit we get

Timing may be 6 month after Company leaders have decided, main benefit may be for the Producers of disk space

I've got the 85mm 1.2L, just sold a 35mm 1.4 - 24mm 1.4 II is tempting!

So I Guess.. both

cavern said:

A video I made with a Canon 5D markIII, Raw mode with magic lantern, Lens Canon EF USM 50 mm f/1.4.

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Very nice, you could also link it to the ML website as they're always looking for good samples.

I hope the upcomping Canon cameras will have higher-iso and moiré-free video like the 7d2 and a sufficient sd card speed to enable raw video (750d? 80d?). It's such a pity you have to spend €2600 to get a really raw-capable camera, it's not like you'd need an expensive lens for video as you demonstrated. Raw video would then become accessible for the masses and people starting off into making movies.

Mt Spokane Photography said:

I think that someone forgot to tell them that low end small sensor P&S are replaced by smartphones.

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Heh. About two or three years ago some rumor sites suggested Apple was considering building a point-and-shoot camera. I just about wet my pants from laughing so hard. Anybody who would jump into the point-and-shoot market today must be either smoking something or certifiably insane.

I thought Canon was still running above 1 Micron?

The biggest piece of information I got from that was the 70% improvement in collecting light from an angle, this is a big deal since right now an f1 lens would have a lot of fall off. We just need BSI in a full frame sensor where it would be put to much better use.

In general it just looks like Samsung is pulling out all the stops on this one, I can't wait to see what they come up with for the next camera.

You might want to look at Lens Rental's comparison, he checked 24 copies of the 24-70mm f/4 and compared them to the 24-70MK I, MK I, the 24-105mmL, and even the Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8.

Form your own opinion. Roger will be the first to admit that his numbers do not tell the whole story, there are lots of other factors to consider.

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/01/canon-24-70-f4-is-resolution-tests

pretty cool!

Either go all the way and give wildlife photographers something they can crop (1DX2), or keep it cheaper with a 6D2. Buildings and landscape don't need 65 point AF.

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ecka said:

There are those who admit the issue and discuss it, there are those who ask questions about it (to learn something), and there are those who don't care (and start threads like this one ). Not caring is not a solution and it's not even worth talking about (unlike sensors and DR).

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I care deeply about the issue, but it would be nice to see a proper and polite discussion in the appropriate place and not see thread after thread descend into nastiness over the subject..... and that seems to be the overwhelming answer to the question....

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Somehow those nasty threads escaped my attention . I tend to simply ignore such "deja vu" threads. No new data there.

jrista said:

More equal? ??? I don't know what that means.

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You really don't? It's from George Orwell's Animal Farm, a fable about the communist revolution. After the animals get rid of their jailers and start into a bright new era with all animals being equal, it turns out that the top cadres are "more equal", murder their rivals and enslave the tamer animals again. Always a good quote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Farm#Plot_summary

Best analogy I can think of is a roll-your-own kickstarter campaign to fund a 5DIII. The web is truly a weird place!

Some more sample images - these are wide open at a few different FL's

https://imgur.com/a/i7BzG

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LetTheRightLensIn said:

Ebrahim Saadawi said:

On a side note, I tested the HDMI output from the 5D mkIII, it offers ZERO improvement in image quality, in fact, it has a slight green tint in the shadows that looks worse than the internal H.264.

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Yeah it did nothing for 5D3 video quality at all. All the damage is done at an earlier stage than the codec for the most part. Maybe for scenes where the entire frame changes from frame to frame and you want to avoid ALL-I skeeter noise, but otherwise is does nada for iamge quality, and as you say it even maybe does a trace worse. I swear it has a trace less dynamic range and sometimes a bit of a tint as you say.

ML RAW though, now that's the ticket for quality. 5D3 video IQ goes up a TON using that, night and day. It is a pig for space and it is a bit annoying to deal with, but it sure delivers .

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I just want to mention that we have been using the Technicolor CP with the 5DIII and recording the HDMI out in the Ninja 2 with Apple Pro Res HQ. Then we color grade the video in the editor, we have been able to get excellent results with this work flow and color matching across cameras. ML is awesome I agree, but for the amount of video we create and that we often have 4 cameras at once involved, it is just too much overhead and time to do.

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Have you compared the Prores files to the internal Mov files? I did and found absolutely no difference other than a slight magenta to green shift in colour.

Your workflow is good yes and the 5D is a great video camera, but if you record internally you'll get the exact same results.

Clean HDMI has benefits for some people I am not denying that, and I wish it was included in the 1Dx and rebels for that matter, the benefits are unlimited recording times, and if you have a slow editing system, having edit-friendly Prores files makes editing faster instead of having to transcode in post prior to editing, also it's nice to have a clean full screen monitor for clients while shooting.

Image quality increase is not one of the benefits.

In her glasses by Pierre Pichot Photography

Thanks again for all your replies. I was about to click the buy-button on a Fuji setup but bailed in favour of a suite of Sigma Art lenses to use on the EOS M. The lenses seem to be some of the best available and I'm crossing my fingers that the M's sensor is going to be good enough to hold up. I know so many people bang on about big lenses on a little camera, but Im not too bothered by this at the moment. If it turns out that the M is a very weak link, I'll have a set of awesome lenses to stick on a Sony or anything Canon might come up with in future.

I'm looking forward to experimenting with this setup, thanks for all the advice, even if I did only take a little of it on board!

I would say the Canon nay Sayers are about two generation behind, judging by some of their comments.

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TWI by Dustin Abbott said:

One of the best things that I saw in this video was the microcontrast on that page of text. If you have watched his video on the Zeiss Otus 85, you will find that this text compares very nicely to the what the Otus did in similar situations, where he contrasted it with the 85L II. That microcontrast could mean some serious pop in shots taken for, say, wedding photography (that, to me, is one of the potentially most exciting applications for this lens).

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Really? I actively avoid rectilinear ultrawides for people photography because of the egg-head phenomenon you get at the edges of the frame. That's why I like the fisheye for that - keeps people's heads round. In fact, when I have shot rectilinear, I've often added a massive amount of barrel distortion in post just for this reason.

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In that sense I've found the native 'moustache' distortion of the Samyang 14mm to be very beneficial when there are people at the edge of the frame. Doing a lens correction on that one quite significantly stretches the edges (and makes it less 'wide' too). Natively it's relatively forgiving for people at the edges of the frame so for stuff that doesn't necessarily have to be too rectilinear I leave the lens correction off.

Mirror hangs on 5d mkii with 44m-4. Just my two cents, it really doesn't matter if it hangs, just put a rubber band around the lens mount and screw it onto the adapter. I used a thin rubber band and it gives it about a finger nails width of room. I lose infinity focus at f/2 but if I'm going to be shooting close to infinity, I'm going to be using my 50 1.8, the helios is all about the bokeh. This also lets you focus just a bit closer for even more bokeh.

Here are some photos I've taken with mine and a couple of tips, while it is super sharp in the center, anything off dead center will be so so. I don't know if the 7 is multicoated but either way, these lenses like to flare.

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weixing said:

Combine all this 3 images to give a single shot HDR RAW.

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Well, if there are three shots, it's not really single shot HDR. It's HDR. But you might get some nice results.

Here are some galleries of underwater photos: http://www.oceanshutter.com/f640704591

Here are some links to video I have shot also: http://www.oceanshutter.com/videos

Dustin

When you are talking about adapters and IQ, it is only relevant, if the adapters use glass elements. It is not the case with NX adapters, so it shouldn't be an issue, but there might be issues when it comes to auto focus.

I have read a review where they experienced some slower AF speeds, when using some EF adapters because of the electronics.

But yes, there is NX to EF adapters. Fotodiox makes one, and I have been happy with Fotodiox products in the past.