The Canon EOS R5 Mark II will not function with third-party batteries

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Since this is a rumors site, here are a couple of my predictions:

2025: Canon will launch a new line of high speed SD and CFe memory cards. Performance will, of course, be excellent, but the cards cost 2-3x what comparable pro-level cards cost from brands like Lexar, Sandisk, and Sony.

2026: New Canon bodies will only work with Canon-branded memory cards. "In order to assure our customers of the highest performance..."
 
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Canon Rumors Guy said:
I don't know, if Canon has actively done this, they probably have it set up to either prevent it with serious encryption or the ability to nuke it in firmware. I don't think a lot of people would buy a third-party battery without knowing how it all works.

I'll ask SmallRig if they have anything they can share on the topic.
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That might fly in North America but setting a camera up to be that hostile to third party batteries might cause friction in places like the EU, where there's actual political will for consumer protection.
 
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SnowMiku said:
I would be ok with that as long as they keep the Memory card slots.
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I had internal storage on a Leica I had, I found it quite annoying. The transfer speed from the camera was slow, as was writing the internal storage over to the memory card and then using a card reader. The camera didn't shoot video, but if it did, that would have been super annoying if you wanted to segment video and stills on separate storage. In some situations it would also be annoying if you filled the internal storage on the job, you'd lose use of the camera while you backup that content.

You have also built a heater into the camera. Not really a big deal on the Hasselblads or Leicas, but imagine that in the R52!

Storage failure will happen eventually, and I'd rather be able to just throw a card away than send the camera for service.

It's kind of a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, but creates new ones.
 
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Canon Rumors Guy said:
[...]Storage failure will happen eventually, and I'd rather be able to just throw a card away than send the camera for service.[...]
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As someone who worked for a company designing and selling storage solutions for the past 5 years: it can't be repeated enough that all storage will fail, and flash storage will fail in subtle and novel ways.

If you have non-replaceable storage, don't depend on it lasting longer than 2 years. After that, ensure you have a reliable backup and restore policy. While I love my Mac Studio, it is approaching the 2 years mark now, so I have double checked the backup drives for issues and will keep doing that every month till I replace it a few years from now. I can boot it from external SSD in case the internal storage fails, I hope I'll never need that option :)
 
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koenkooi said:
As someone who worked for a company designing and selling storage solutions for the past 5 years: it can't be repeated enough that all storage will fail, and flash storage will fail in subtle and novel ways.

If you have non-replaceable storage, don't depend on it lasting longer than 2 years. After that, ensure you have a reliable backup and restore policy. While I love my Mac Studio, it is approaching the 2 years mark now, so I have double checked the backup drives for issues and will keep doing that every month till I replace it a few years from now. I can boot it from external SSD in case the internal storage fails, I hope I'll never need that option :)
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So, you are complicit in our disks failing - shame on you! You can boot both Intel and Apple Silicon chipped computers with recovery mode via the internet if your internal disk fails.
 
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Just Canon doing Canon things. They've always been notorious for intentionally breaking compatibility with 3rd party products. It's what lead to 3rd party lenses having options to update firmware via "docks" back in the day. Every new Canon body would break compatibility with most if not all 3rd party glass. (Nikon used to do this too, but Canon was generally worse.)
 
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AlanF said:
You had better for safety sake stop using a camera with a lithium battery.
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Unfortunately, it is a drug that I just cannot kick.. and I keep trying to get more money to fund my addiction...... it is getting worse with R5 II, R1 and so many VCM L incoming.... :LOL:

I'm more afraid of my phone blowing up when it is in my front pant pocket....

Jokes aside, I think Lithium battery has been relatively stable now, but it does carry some risk still... that's why getting correct charger lower the risk... as I read many handphone fire/ explosion were due to 3rd party chargers....
 
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Halfmoon said:
Unfortunately, it is a drug that I just cannot kick.. and I keep trying to get more money to fund my addiction...... it is getting worse with R5 II, R1 and so many VCM L incoming.... :LOL:

I'm more afraid of my phone blowing up when it is in my front pant pocket....

Jokes aside, I think Lithium battery has been relatively stable now, but it does carry some risk still... that's why getting correct charger lower the risk... as I read many handphone fire/ explosion were due to 3rd party chargers....
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Did you see the photo of the pole vaulter in the Olympics who knocked the bar down with a certain part of his anatomy that would have been removed by such an explosion? But for the lack of an iPhone, he could have got a gold. I use Apple chargers for all my devices and when travelling take a pair of small double-USB-C outlet ones so we can charge both our iPhones and laptop/iPad simultaneously or batteries in camera or cradle, and have the comfort of having a back-up if one charger fails.
 
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GMCPhotographics said:
Does anyone know the specification difference between the LP-E6NH and the new LP-EP6P battery? Does the newer battery have more capacity or is it a re-program of the charge / discharge rate chip of the previous battery? It's quite possible the the R5ii can draw such a fast load from the battery that the old chip will prevent the battery from delivering such a burst. Lithium Ion batteries are prone to explode if their charge / discharge speeds aren't carefully managed.
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Newly registered participant here, I purchased a DR-E6P and it was delivered this weekend. Here are the specifications on the instruction sheet that came with it. It may give the EEs and idea of what the batteries have inside.

Rated input: 20.0 VDC or 15.0 VDC
Rated output: 10.0 VDC or 7.5 VDC
Cord length: 3.94 ft
Working temp: 32f - 104f
Working humidity 85% or less
Working dimensions WXHXD (1.51 X 0.83 X 2.24)
Weight 3.1 oz

Looks to be a duel voltage power system. I would think that means it's smart enough to determine the voltage requirement of the camera it is in. I expect the batteries have the same capability.
 
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koenkooi said:
This makes me happy that 3 of the 4 spare LP-E6NHs I have are Canon branded, the other one is a smallrig one with a USB-C socket.
Looks like my trusty old 7D will start using that smallrig battery :)

I really love the convenience of not having to use a charger, everything accepts USB-C PD! In that respect, the EL-5 I’m considering is a huge step backwards: custom batteries, no USB-C option :(
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Except did you see all the features you lose with the LP-E6NH batteries?

Either they didn’t include a step-up converter in the camera and it hobbles along at lower voltages, or they did include a step-up converter and instead of allowing for shorter battery life they purposely knee capped everyone to force more battery sales.
 
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amattas said:
Except did you see all the features you lose with the LP-E6NH batteries?

Either they didn’t include a step-up converter in the camera and it hobbles along at lower voltages, or they did include a step-up converter and instead of allowing for shorter battery life they purposely knee capped everyone to force more battery sales.
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The new battery can discharge at 6A. The n/nh are 2-2.13
 
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amattas said:
Except did you see all the features you lose with the LP-E6NH batteries?

Either they didn’t include a step-up converter in the camera and it hobbles along at lower voltages, or they did include a step-up converter and instead of allowing for shorter battery life they purposely knee capped everyone to force more battery sales.
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All the step-up converters in the world won't help with inadequate current flow, which seems to the be thing Canon changed with the LP-E6P.
 
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