What’s Next From Canon Round-up – The Canon EOS R6 Mark III and more

[fox40phil]

Don't shoot the messenger, I'm currently getting slammed with questions about some of these things. So hopefully this clears up what we can currently talk about. EOS R6 III information is soon, it doesn't appear to be as locked down as the R52.

What does that mean exactly? I don't get it^^ (not native).

The current line up by Canon is by far for me...one of the worst.
R5II -> Buffer of a cheap camera - not a high end high mp body! (for me and many others!)
R6III -> R3 + pre burst!? thats it...

I WANT a real 4k€ body without buffer problems and less DR!
I want lenses like the new Sony 400-800 and Sigma 300-600, Nikon 800 6,3 etc. etc....
Also a light weight new 500 4.0 would awesome! (~2,5kg-2,8kg)

 

[David - Sydney]

What does that mean exactly? I don't get it^^ (not native).

The flow of rumours for the R5ii was "locked down" ie everyone was tight-lipped vs people providing information about the R6iii

The current line up by Canon is by far for me...one of the worst.
R5II -> Buffer of a cheap camera - not a high end high mp body! (for me and many others!)

The Digital Picture measured >3seconds of ES shooting (30fps) and >8 seconds if the mechanical shutter is used (12fps)
Not only this but also with 14bit raw files when using electronic shutter compared to the R5's 12 bit files.
It is moving a lot more data at 30fps ES vs 20fps for the R5 so a significant upgrade over the R5 in this respect.
Adding pre-burst is also an improvement.
The DR is slightly less than the R5 due to the stacked sensor but has less rolling shutter.

Which body has the buffer depth than you need ie more than 3 or 8 second bursts? Switching to cRaw may give longer bursts as well.

R6III -> R3 + pre burst!? thats it...

It hasn't been released yet so it is a bit hard to confirm all the differences. A stacked sensor at that pricepoint would be significant alone.

I WANT a real 4k€ body without buffer problems and less DR!
I want lenses like the new Sony 400-800 and Sigma 300-600, Nikon 800 6,3 etc. etc....

As of a couple of weeks ago, the Sony and Sigma lenses didn't exist. I am not sure that you can even buy them yet and you are demanding equivalent lenses from Canon?? They do look like great lenses and great value for money

Also a light weight new 500 4.0 would awesome! (~2,5kg-2,8kg)

I guess we will see when Canon releases their 200-500mm. If it is like the replacement 300/2,8 with a zoom then it was heavier.
From today's rumour
"We do notice that we’re not seeing any Canon RF 500mm f/4L IS USM optical formula designs, but we are seeing a fair number of 400mm and 600mm optical designs. We know the EF 500mm f/4L IS USM II replacement is going to be a zoom like the brilliant Canon RF 100-300mm f/2.8L IS USM."

 

[Mekos]

No mention of a very high resolution R5 style camera though...Or what I really want - a fast prime for astrophotography in the 14mm to 20mm range between f/1.2 to f/1.8 max aperture, with very good stars in the corners. If Canon is just not going to do this then PLEASE let Sigma produce there excellent performing 14mm or 20mm f/1.4 full frame AF lenses for RF mount.

 

[Mekos]

Just as I would say!!! Support your idea!

 

[jim]

I'm using Nikon Z8 for my bird photography simply because of their 800/6.3. The combo is the best portable set-up I've tried. I still prefer my R5 but there is no equivalent to the Nikon's 800. It works beautifully with a 1.4x.
For my macro work, the MP-E 65mm is peerless, so I still need to use Canon. Having two systems with very different haptics is a real brain strain.
So my Canon wish list:
*50 or 60mm L Macro IS with AF that goes to 2x life-size (I still need my MP-E but the 100mm RF macro is way too big)
*800mm f/6.3 DO IS (probably 50% more expensive than Nikon) with closer focus. Or a 600/5.6 DO with built-in 1.4x.
*100-300mm f/4 L IS that focuses to half life size
*Next generation of the MR-14EX II, which needs to lose weight, more user options including the blinding modeling light.
*Next generation of the PowerShot G5 X Mark II, weatherproof, phase detection, faster processor, (basically just copy what makes Sony's RX100s fast & responsive) but don't mess with basic configuration or UI.

 

[Arturo+Lauren]

Are there any news related to new cinema EOS cameras?

 

[DhlcadR6]

There will not be a Canon camera above 45mp and that would defeat the purpose and segment of the 6 series. The 6D Mark III will have a "variation" of the EOS R3 sensor.

If Canon goes above 45mp, it will be a jump much higher than 60mp, and it will be a 5 series camera. There's no point when 45 already exists.

You're not going to introduce an all new sensor in a line that will have a $2500 entrance fee.

You save a silly resolution sensor so you can charge $5K for an R5 S, and I'm not sure that market actually exists, forum fodder aside.

I don't see a reason why not have a high MP non-stacked CMOS camera at $2500~3200USD and just cripple some functions to make it sit well underneath R5. Why not having a true a7r5/a7cr competitor.

 

[David - Sydney]

I don't see a reason why not have a high MP non-stacked CMOS camera at $2500~3200USD and just cripple some functions to make it sit well underneath R5. Why not having a true a7r5/a7cr competitor.

With the R5 discounts today, it is under from what you are asking for. The R5 is selling new for 60% of what I paid as pre-order 5 years ago and still working perfectly.
Currently at AUD3920 including tax = USD2230 excluding tax so I am missing your point. This also includes the local Canon 5 year warranty which I haven't needed to use.

What else is needed to compete with A7r series besides their 60mp resolution which I wouldn't value over 45mp? I haven't hit the situation where there wasn't enough cropping ability from 45mp.

Like the RP, I hope that Canon continues to include the R5 in their standard product offering replacing the R which was available for a very long time until recently.

Once the US levies tariffs against Japan, get ready for price increases once local stock is sold... and if I understand the tariffs correctly, it will fund tax cuts for the wealthy so hopefully that will help you pay for them.

 

[Exploreshootshare]

the follow-up to the RF 28-70mm f/2L USM will be 24mm at the wide-end and still trim significant weight off the current lens.

I am wondering how much weight Canon can trim from the existing lens. Sonys offering comes in at 918gr and is about 500 gr (512 gr to be exact) less than Canons offering. It would be nice to have a F2 zoom <1kg. But if Canon is adding 4mm at the wide end, I am figuring it'll be (hopefully only slightly) above 1 kg.

I´d hope for the lightest version possible, even it means starting at 28mm yet again. But I've read that a lot of people, especially event photographers, did actually hold back on purchasing this lens because it wasn't wide enough. I don´t know if it is the usual forum cry and internet talk or if it is a real concern.

I figured there might be another reason why Canon wants to offer a 24-70mm F2: I could imagine they'll one day offer a F2 UWA zoom as part of a trinity. If the UWA zoom only has to go to 24mm, it could make it easier to design and built it. Or they could go a bit wider, let´s say starting at 14mm instead of 16mm. A 14-24mm F2 would sound like a very nice lens. Plus, 16-28mm is kind of already taken, although it is f2.8. Whatever Canon decided to do (if they ever) I think there could be several great design choices:

RF 12-24mm F2 --> as wide as possible, even it is heavy?
RF 14-24mm F2 --> best compromise?
RF 16-24mm F2 --> as compact as possible while maintaining F2?

Anyhow, I hope going to 24mm is related to a UWA zoom and that'll weigh less than 1 kg!

 

[Zadak]

Mid-March and still nothing...