I would welcome it and it would Be bringing Canons lenses up to touch with the competitors it just wants to be a lighter lens for my liking
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So you reasoning is, that because a £2,000 lens does not match a $12,000 lens (including not having an f4 aperture) it is not worthy of being an 'L' lens.I don't render opinions based upon the masses. Many aren't willing and/or able to purchase and/or handle large, heavy, expensive lenses to shoot in the conditions that I do. The eye is the great discriminator and we have different standards.
By your logic the RF 200-800mm, which received a compiled 4.5 rating by 192 reviewers on B&H, is an excellent lens.?.? That is the same 4.5 rating that 480 viewers attribute to the RF 100-500mm. So, if the 200-800mm was more weather resistant does it deserve "L" status in your world?
That's true, my R7 can deliver great results with my EF 600mm III, just yesterday I used it with the 1.4x TC III and got good results. But often the conditions are already the limiting factor that undermines the maximum resolution technically achievable, be it small movements of e.g. a bird in low light or heat haze.But then again, I've always had a bit more trouble with the R7 in that it is really hard to take advantage of the extra pixel density (shooting conditions have to be great).
Well a good monopod takes care of the weight issue with the sigma…if only we could get an rf version. But the 100-300 went up $700, so is now $10,199. Zoom is wonderful and that was really the only way I could justify getting one was because it gives me a range that I can use for video too.If it's based on the $10,000 RF 100-300 f2.8 why would it be well below $10,000 ? Sounds like wishful thinking to me.
I'd much rather have a version ii of the 100-300mm f2.8 with builtin 1.4x and 2x extenders and I would expect to pay accordingly
200-500mm L f4 or 300-600mm L f4 (w IQ of the 100-300mm L f2.8) please --- don't care how heavy or how much... enough with the pedestrian lenses please... I don't even consider the 100-500mm worthy of L designation based on image quality
Okay, but the discussion is more around 500 / 5.6 and 600/6.3 lenses (latter being popular in recent zooms as well as Nikon's excellent PF prime), not 600 F/4s
Sigma's 500 5/.6 is barely larger than the 100-500 in its collapsed state and weighs about the same. Likewise for Nikon's 500 5.6. You lose the zoom, but I can't say that's a huge tradeoff -- most people tend to use zooms at their extremes. The 200-600 and 180-600 lenses are indeed larger and heavier. But non-telescoping and better light gathering for a thousand bucks less.
I own the Canon 100-500. It's *okay* and I've gotten some good photos with it. But between its relatively dark image, long zoom throw, telescoping nature, and the teleconverter weirdness - I just don't enjoy it that much. 70-200 Z with the 2x tele basically replaced that lens for me. And unfortunately for anything longer, you pretty much have to step up to the big whites with Canon. The middle ground is lacking, unfortunately doesn't seem to be a big priority for Canon.
Now this hypothetical 300-600 could be interesting and maybe fill that niche, but I highly doubt it'll be much less than $10k.
Okay, but the discussion is more around 500 / 5.6 and 600/6.3 lenses (latter being popular in recent zooms as well as Nikon's excellent PF prime), not 600 F/4s
Sigma's 500 5/.6 is barely larger than the 100-500 in its collapsed state and weighs about the same. Likewise for Nikon's 500 5.6. You lose the zoom, but I can't say that's a huge tradeoff -- most people tend to use zooms at their extremes. The 200-600 and 180-600 lenses are indeed larger and heavier. But non-telescoping and better light gathering for a thousand bucks less.
I own the Canon 100-500. It's *okay* and I've gotten some good photos with it. But between its relatively dark image, long zoom throw, telescoping nature, and the teleconverter weirdness - I just don't enjoy it that much. 70-200 Z with the 2x tele basically replaced that lens for me. And unfortunately for anything longer, you pretty much have to step up to the big whites with Canon. The middle ground is lacking, unfortunately doesn't seem to be a big priority for Canon.
Now this hypothetical 300-600 could be interesting and maybe fill that niche, but I highly doubt it'll be much less than $10k.
There do not appear to be any reports of the 200-800 breaking since April. Have you seen any?If this zooms hit with these specs the market, and if it really is an L lens, dial me in. I would immediately upgrade my RF 200-800mm with it as a lighter combo when I don't want to carry my heavier 600mm prime. My main reason to replace the RF 200-800mm is its obvious fragility that prevents me to take it with me in more rugged environments, otherwise I still like this compact zoom.
Yes, I have. The front end of the 200-800mm lens of a friend of mine was bent. Despite being less than two years old: no warranty, but a 900+ € repair bill.There do not appear to be any reports of the 200-800 breaking since April. Have you seen any?
I wish we had an angry emoji. Was it at the join and how big was the bend?Yes, I have. The front end of the 200-800mm lens of a friend of mine was bent. Despite being less than two years old: no warranty, but a 900+ € repair bill.
It was at the join. I did not see the lens but the bend was sufficient to cause major sharpness issues.I wish we had an angry emoji. Was it at the join and how big was the bend?
I too wish we had a wider choice of emojis, just "thump up" is very limited possibility to express one's feelings or opinions...I wish we had an angry emoji. Was it at the join and how big was the bend?
I wonder if, for Euro 900+, Canon will replace the high quality polymer -aka plastic- flange with an improved metal version.It was at the join. I did not see the lens but the bend was sufficient to cause major sharpness issues.
2.735kg with the hood. Another 1/2lb to mix units.Don't forget Sony FE 400-800mm F6.3-8 at only 2.5kg!
Anyway, I'm excited!
Same here. I would trade-in my 200-800 mm for the 300-600 mm f5.6 L lens as well.If this zooms hit with these specs the market, and if it really is an L lens, dial me in. I would immediately upgrade my RF 200-800mm with it as a lighter combo when I don't want to carry my heavier 600mm prime. My main reason to replace the RF 200-800mm is its obvious fragility that prevents me to take it with me in more rugged environments, otherwise I still like this compact zoom.
They did say "well below" so surely that must be at least $9998.An f4 300-600 would also have faced criticism by the internet experts for being too heavy, too front-heavy, too expensive, lacking an extender etc...
Yet, knowing Canon, below $10000 could stand for $9999...![]()