The Canon EOS R6 Mark III is Canon’s Next Full-Frame Release
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Why would anyone need more than 24 MP for portraits ?
I shot these shots with my R6ii and my old EF200mm f/1.8 and can't see how any higher resolution would improve the images
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i have captured a ton of h+ efcs photos with my r5 and i dont feel like i am loosing very much dynamic range. I intentionally shoot 1 or 2 stop dark to save highlights and then lift in post, looks great.
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37% of camera owners used their camera less than once per year, with the vast majority of photos now taken on smartphones, the population of people who own and use a dedicated camera is a fraction of what it once was, and many of these casual or lapsed users would have no reason to visit a specialized forum even the average, non-enthusiast camera owner rarely has a reason to visit. Professional photographers are less likely to frequent public forums and instead communicate with other professionals they know and respect. That's a summary compiled with learning software, aka as AI. Logic, no marketing studies exist to support any effect forums would have or not have but based on this fact, marketing not including forums or what people report ...says a mouthful
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It also depends on ISO, if you’re beyond ISO800, the 14bit argument becomes academic.
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#4 option was hidden in my heart actually, but i wanted to see what people will choose or how to choose when i make wider range of options, actually R3 isn't in my mind at all, and R1 is too much expensive to get it now for just a hobby and collecting dust, not necessary to go that much expensive anyway, thank you
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I think R5 is best at ISO 100 or 400. I know folks say they get good results at 6400, but I dont like to go past 1600. I haven't invested in de-noising software, maybe that is why i keep the ISO low.
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Getting good results with ISO 6400 or higher means more editing and denoising. I don't really enjoy editing that much since I´d rather go out and shoot more
Therefore, I always try to "get it right" as good as possible to spent less time on the computer. That's why I avoid high ISOs if possible.
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R5 at 6400 iso is good with lightroom auto denoise. You just have to wait for the AI thing. If you go beyond 6400 you need special denoise software.Getting good results with ISO 6400 or higher means more editing and denoising. I don't really enjoy editing that much since I´d rather go out and shoot more
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I always wanted an EF-S or RF-S 15-60 f/4 IS. Maybe the RF 20-50 f/4 is not a 100% substitute but as a full frame lens it might be a good choice to be used in the combination R50V + R6 with RF 20-50 and EF 100-400 ii:
20-50 (FF) → 32-80 (APS-C) → 100-400 (FF) → 160-640 (APS-C) - finally 20 ... 640mm with two lenses/two bodies equivalent focal lengths.
32-80 on e.g. my R50 V might be a great universal package due to the PZ feature for handheld video and on a gimbal!
Hopefully the 20-50 has IS and does not rely on too heavy corrections for distortion.
20-50 (FF) → 32-80 (APS-C) → 100-400 (FF) → 160-640 (APS-C) - finally 20 ... 640mm with two lenses/two bodies equivalent focal lengths.
32-80 on e.g. my R50 V might be a great universal package due to the PZ feature for handheld video and on a gimbal!
Hopefully the 20-50 has IS and does not rely on too heavy corrections for distortion.
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Maybe there are special requirements for such highly resolving portraits but I too see no real need for 98% of portraiture. 24MP is 4000x6000 pixels and if you accept 0.25mm dot size in the final product this is a 1 x 1.5 m printout.
I too use the R6ii for other types of photography: What I like is that the R6ii fills each pixel with valid information so you have 24 million real pixels - no recording of imperfections of lenses or sensor readout.
Another advantage is that older lenses perform perfectly in the range of the sensor resolution, so no storage of unnecessary pixels without real information - I have seen that you have the EF 1.4 50 - while not up to modern standards it is good at 1.4 and stellar from ~ f/4 onwards. Finally bought it after waiting 20 years for an IS variant with a little bit more contrast at f/1.4
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Yeah the EF 50mm f/1.4 isn't super sharp but I love the look it gives you which I value over sharpness in some situationsMaybe there are special requirements for such highly resolving portraits but I too see no real need for 98% of portraiture. 24MP is 4000x6000 pixels and if you accept 0.25mm dot size in the final product this is a 1 x 1.5 m printout.
I too use the R6ii for other types of photography: What I like is that the R6ii fills each pixel with valid information so you have 24 million real pixels - no recording of imperfections of lenses or sensor readout.
Another advantage is that older lenses perform perfectly in the range of the sensor resolution, so no storage of unnecessary pixels without real information - I have seen that you have the EF 1.4 50 - while not up to modern standards it is good at 1.4 and stellar from ~ f/4 onwards. Finally bought it after waiting 20 years for an IS variant with a little bit more contrast at f/1.4
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Sure. Such sensors have a role to play and are very important for some types of photography / videography. Sony is currently working on adding a third layer to their stacked sensors to further improve both performance and image quality.
Sony brought BSI sensors to market which is still the highest image quality type of sensor. Sony also created a 48mp BSI sensor with quad-bayer hardware filtering and a 12mp readout, one of the best sensors for high DR, low noise, and fast readout prior to the arrival of the a9 III. (It's the sensor in the a7S III, FX3, FX6 etc.)
Sony sells 100mp medium format BSI sensors in a couple of different sizes.
Sony has interesting sensor tech in use in smartphones that is likely to make it's way to the next generation (2026, 2027) of FF and APS-C camera sensors.
It's popular to hate on Sony but Sony does a LOT (arguably the most) to drive sensor technology forward.
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Sony tends to make focus breathing compromises and then has auto-compensation for that in camera. Not so many other compromises. The GM line is what competes against the real "L" lenses, not the VCM glass, yet Canon prices VCM glass at GM levels. Way too high.
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The R3 still retails for $5400 but is currently on sale (probably clearance) for $4400. That is more than "a little over" $4k, it's almost double the $2300 retail of the R6ii and it is over double the $2100 discounted R6ii price. This is very, very far away.
There are Sony users who have fantasies of Sony putting the 24mp stacked sensor from the $4500 A9ii into the A7V but that's obviously never going to happen. Likewise, Canon is not going to put a fully stacked sensor into the R6 anytime soon.
In Sony's case, once the A1iii comes with a 50mp global shutter sensor that does 120fps, they might consider a fully stacked 30mp sensor for the A7. Depending on fab yields and costs, of course.
For Canon, I suspect it will be something similar. They are not going to make the R6 series so good that it approaches R1 levels of performance & image quality.
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You make me wonder if I had a bad copy. My EF 50mm f/1.4, wide open, was the softest autofocus lens I ever had, even on the 20MP R6. I bought it brand new in 2018, and made barely over 1000 shots with it.
Stopping down of course helped a lot, but so it did with other lenses.
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roby17269
R5, H5X + IQ1-80, DJI Mini 4 Pro & Mavic 4 Pro
My experience is that ISO 6400 with the R5 is useable with AI NR. Personally I use AI NR above ISO 800.
Beware that there is a significant penalty in processing time when you use any AI NR, especially if your computer is not powerful.
AI NR is materially better than "classic" NR, but it is not magic and the higher the ISO, the more detail you'll lose (the loss will be less compared to "classic" NR, but still present)
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Yes, Canon has identified a specific malfunction in some EF 50mm f/1.4 USM lenses, where the focus operation stops when moving from infinity to a closer distance, affecting both autofocus and manual focus. Other reports mention issues with softness at wide apertures, difficulty achieving sharp images, and even focus motor failure over time, leading some users to consider it a fragile lens with a reputation for poor quality control or a tendency to fail. (Canon Community Forum) btw, Made in Japan ? A widely held distinction which increases values, ... debunked. I have one I bought in a kit with a 5D and a 24-105L, I'm thinking it's been used less than 100 shots total. I tried to sell it and it's like new, couldn't even get $100 so it collects age because? Where am I going to get AF 1.4 for less than $100 that communicates Canon on Canon? It's original manual lens purpose was to be the color reference standard for the Canon system. People with good copies don't really comment, all that's mainly heard is bad experiences. Forums are all about da gripe, not da praise is my point here with some facts to back it up .... it's all about dreaming what it will be like going to a big amusement park for the first time and then after that it's all downhill ...the complaints grow and the happy are not on Forms whining like it's a self-support group for remorseful buyers. Really, if something is great then the last place I'd be is on a forum reading, I'd be so delighted I'd wear out a shutter in a day ....thanks for helping me break out of my block and helping me use my eyes and not my thoughts again ..."gone shooting" I appreciate your assistance in this matter very much ....stop thinking , what a concept?
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