Some people just need to vent their frustration or aggressiveness. A psychiatrist might help...We once had a troll called dilbert. He loved dishing it out, and the more he was fed, the more he spewed out, never abashed.
A blast from the past.We once had a troll called dilbert. He loved dishing it out, and the more he was fed, the more he spewed out, never abashed.
The psychiatrist could call the police. Forcing someone to spend 13 years getting electroshock therapy before escaping by making a ladder from plastic spoons and cross dressing in a nurse's uniform. This is not from my personal experience. Honest. I would not lie.Some people just need to vent their frustration or aggressiveness. A psychiatrist might help...
If you have infinite money then sure, buy all Canon/Sony/Nikon glass. Or buy all Leica glass. Whatever floats your boat. But the reality is that when viewing a processed & printed photograph from a normal viewing distance, 99.999% of the population (if not 100%) won't be able to tell if you spent $2.5k on Canon glass or $250 on Viltrox glass. If you pixel peep, you can tell. So what's more important, the print or the pixel peeping?
Yes, I bring a Really Right Stuff TQC-14 with a BH-30 LR ballhead.And that's your "core" kit. Do you also carry a lightweight tripod?
Maybe just not adventurous enough... You need to get an EF-RF mount adapter (preferably a 3rd party one) and modify it by widening the opening so the protrusion of an RF extender can fit. Then you can use an EF lens and either mount an RF extender behind the adapter or an EF extender in front of it. Or both. I used a Commlite adapter because it's the one that starts with the widest opening.On the 2x extenders - I have both the RF and EF (somewhere!) but I can't mount the same lens in front of them so how would I compare, genuine question? Am I being dim?

I remember that, pretty temptingMaybe just not adventurous enough... You need to get an EF-RF mount adapter (preferably a 3rd party one) and modify it by widening the opening so the protrusion of an RF extender can fit. Then you can use an EF lens and either mount an RF extender behind the adapter or an EF extender in front of it. Or both. I used a Commlite adapter because it's the one that starts with the widest opening.
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That's how I tested RF vs. EF and various combinations of them with the EF 600/4 II. In this case, since I'm planning to just test the two copies of the RF 2x, I'll just use the 100-300/2.8.
PS if anyone is wondering why I kept my EF extenders, 1. they still work with the MP-E, and 2. they had no trade-in valueI remember that, pretty temptingBut alas I now only have long RF lenses, the longest I can go with EF is 180mm (and as a third party lens it doesn't take native extenders anyhow).
Haha — I remember the digital picture article on that. Loved the fun-ho attitude!Maybe just not adventurous enough... You need to get an EF-RF mount adapter (preferably a 3rd party one) and modify it by widening the opening so the protrusion of an RF extender can fit. Then you can use an EF lens and either mount an RF extender behind the adapter or an EF extender in front of it. Or both. I used a Commlite adapter because it's the one that starts with the widest opening.
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That's how I tested RF vs. EF and various combinations of them with the EF 600/4 II. In this case, since I'm planning to test two copies of the RF 2x, I'll just use the 100-300/2.8.
I still have EF II extenders and they still work great once you learn their needs.PS if anyone is wondering why I kept my EF extenders, 1. they still work with the MP-E, and 2. they had no trade-in value![]()
Do you have an extension tube? They often allow the extender protrusion to fit into a space pre-lens and the space is just air. That kills infinite focus but if you replicate filling the frame in each case you can make a good estimate.On the 2x extenders - I have both the RF and EF (somewhere!) but I can't mount the same lens in front of them so how would I compare, genuine question? Am I being dim?
Well I meant more, I haven't any lenses they fit (apart from the MP-E, and using extenders with that is super niche).I still have EF II extenders and they still work great once you learn their needs.
No judgement on anything that works for someone. If a turnip lens gets it done…
Not any more. I broke one, if I had any others they were stolen. I used to be very experimental but now I stick to what's practical and what worksDo you have an extension tube? They often allow the extender protrusion to fit into a space pre-lens and the space is just air. That kills infinite focus but if you replicate filling the frame in each case you can make a good estimate.
I have my doubts, very strong doubts!The psychiatrist could call the police. Forcing someone to spend 13 years getting electroshock therapy before escaping by making a ladder from plastic spoons and cross dressing in a nurse's uniform. This is not from my personal experience. Honest. I would not lie.
I have absolutely zero brand loyalty. Not only in the camera world but with any product. Brand loyalty is for suckers and fools. I'll buy whatever is best at any given time. I've owned & used Canon in the past. And Nikon. And Pentax. And Minolta. And Hasselblad. And Contax. And Olympus. (Oddly never an L mount camera, at least not yet.) Often several mounts at once. These days Sony, yes, but if Sony suddenly decided to lock their mount down and disallow 3rd party glass, I'd move to something else.No, I just understand the market and the position of the R100 in it. You just want to prove that you’re an arrogant ass, and at least that’s one thing for which you’ve provided convincing evidence. So, well done?
This, from a slavering Sony fanboi. Oh, the irony.![]()
I doubt most photographers would be able to accurately pick between first party & third party glass in a print from a normal viewing distance. Or which brand of camera was used.Sure, if all you do is take simple shots and view the whole image without cropping at a moderate size then most gear, including a smart phone, will be adequate in many cases. But, if you are working at the limit of needing very rapid, reliable AF and cropping greatly and then viewing, then you really see the difference between cheap optics and inferior AF compared with the top grade, and the inferior unacceptable. And what counts is not what appeals to 99.999% of the population but your own standards, which might overlap with the 99.999%.
By the way, your numbers are suspect. The remaining 0.001% of the population adds up to 82,000 people, and the estimates of the number of professional photographers ranges from 1 to 2.5 million, with 20-30 million serious prosumers. So, a figure of 97.5% of the population is a more realistic estimate of the population not being serious about quality.
Please be honest. You didn't write about the general situation of identifying any camera and any lens combination but specifically a very low quality named manufacturers lens against a very high quality named one, namely:I doubt most photographers would be able to accurately pick between first party & third party glass in a print from a normal viewing distance. Or which brand of camera was used.
99.999% is likely too low a number as it implies 1 in 100,000 people could reliably tell, and I do not think that is the case. If you put up 1000 photos taken with different cameras and lenses in a properly managed double-blind test, I doubt there is a single person on the planet who would be able to reliably pick out the camera & lens used for each photo. Experienced photographers could likely pick out the approximate focal length and aperture ("taken at somewhere between 400 and 800mm at a fairly wide aperture" type description) but not anything beyond that. There are too many factors to consider that are only known to the photographer and would not be shared in a double blind test.
If you have infinite money then sure, buy all Canon/Sony/Nikon glass. Or buy all Leica glass. Whatever floats your boat. But the reality is that when viewing a processed & printed photograph from a normal viewing distance, 99.999% of the population (if not 100%) won't be able to tell if you spent $2.5k on Canon glass or $250 on Viltrox glass. If you pixel peep, you can tell. So what's more important, the print or the pixel peeping?
Now you are being a troll on a canon forum.... and for what purpose?I do not understand why people like you not only put up with Canon's locked mount BS and yesteryear sensor tech, but defend the company for it. It's an absurd position to take.
Ha! I remember him now.We once had a troll called dilbert. He loved dishing it out, and the more he was fed, the more he spewed out, never abashed.