Remember what happened to Jon Snow. He died but was resurrected by some lady in red with a few spells. Those may be some parallels to the topic on hand.
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well you seem to be happy with point and shoot ergonomis and no EVF in a mirrorless. ...i am not.
that is from one survey done in thailand.
i have seen the same surveys for germany, UK and france. with basically the same numbers.
when you are really interested you sure find a way to use google.
How do they define 'mirrorless camera'? Interchangeable lens? Compact? MFT? APS-C? With or without EVF?The online survey was completed by 540 respondents between 18 - 55 years of age who purchased a mirrorless camera such as Sony, Fujifilm, Canon and Olympus in the past 12 months. The survey also included those who intend to purchase one in the next 12 months.
But saying, "We have no idea what the future holds in terms of DSLR vs. Mirrorless sales" is obviously too boring for the internet geniuses. At the moment, there are advantages and disadvantages to Mirrorless. There is no evidence to support that Mirrorless is somehow a technological advance that will replace DSLRs - at this time. Only time will tell. Ho-hum.....
Who said I am? I don't own a M series camera and I make sure all cameras I buy have a VF.
I was talking about how popular the camera is and how that level of sales shows that many people do not seem to care about the things you find are so important.
Maybe older people who have had a bit of experience with photography prefer DSLRs.
one thing i noticed is that old DSLR users are clinging to the OVF way more than younger customers.
older DSLR users have a greater resistance to accept an EVF.
i quote myself again:
that is why many people, who would have bought a "rebel like" canon mirrroless, then decided to buy a rebel instead of the less appealing EOS M.
you really want to tell me that you think that has no influence on how the mirrorless vs. DSLR numbers look?
I am not denying that at all because there is no way to tell.
I am happy with point and shoot ergonomics on my point and shoot mirrorless cameras, thank you very much. And a camera for which I'd like to put more effort into shooting would better come with an OVF - at least for now.well you seem to be happy with point and shoot ergonomics and no EVF in a mirrorless. ...i am not.
I honestly don't see what is "whopping" in 41% of first-time whatever camera purchasers in Thailand being 25-34 years of age.that is from one survey done in thailand.
i have seen the same surveys for germany, UK and france. with basically the same numbers.
when you are really interested you sure find a way to use google.
I am happy with point and shoot ergonomics on my point and shoot mirrorless cameras, thank you very much. And a camera for which I'd like to put more effort into shooting would better come with an OVF - at least for now.
I honestly don't see what is "whopping" in 41% of first-time whatever camera purchasers in Thailand being 25-34 years of age.
Looks like marketing BS to me, carrying the only message: "you are in this age bracket, you need to buy our product".
Looks like marketing BS to me, carrying the only message: "you are in this age bracket, you need to buy our product".
Yes, we know. If only the Canon EOS AvTvMR and Nikon fullZstop models had been available for the past 5 years, DSLRs would be dead.mirrorslappers still around is almost entirely thanks to poor supply in the mirrorfree department. the problem is/was supply side, not demand side. agree 100% with that.
Exactly. Mirrorless hype is driven in part by the fact that people don't bother to look at CIPA sales data. DSLRs out sell MILCs by a very wide margin.
I'm curious to see the impact of all the new MILC bodies being announced. But my guess is that we are still many years away from "the end of the DSLR", and in fact still years away from majority MILC sales globally.
As for me, Canon could have sold me an R if they had just included decent video specs. An R with solid video could have filled the roll of backup stills camera AND video camera using my Canon glass and offering me familiar ergonomics, color science, etc.
Take away the video and I'm left scratching my head as to why I should care about mirrorless. I'll just get another DSLR for backup stills.
I think that if he had deployed a greater force on Wellington's right flank, Napoleon would have been victorious at Waterloo. But much like all of your thoughts, it didn’t happen that way.i think so.
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That makes sense. You can’t hold a discussion with people who only post hypothetical conjecture without evidence to support their opinion, or people who ignore the relevant data previously posted.we will look at the numbers in a few month. you can´t have a discussion with people who only post stupid one liners without substance.
That makes sense. You can’t hold a discussion with people who only post hypothetical conjecture without evidence to support their opinion.
Lol. In the context of forming opinions about future market share in an established market, you're saying it's better to base them on nothing or stuff you make up in your head, instead of data and facts? Well, you do you.or people who base their opinions about future developments on numbers from years past.
how is it driving in your ford T model while listening to music on your walkman?
i mean that all sold pretty well in the past.... LOL
ps: i am a tesla owner. i like new technologys.
Lol. In the context of forming opinions about future market share in an established market, you're saying it's better to base them on nothing or stuff you make up in your head, instead of data and facts? Well, you do you.
Interesting that when I quoted you verbatim, you accuse me of putting words in your mouth. Please show me where I said anything even close to your above "quotation".your opinions are based on "everything will be fine and my beloved DSLR will be here forever".
Interesting that when I quoted you verbatim, you accuse me of putting words in your mouth. Please show me where I said anything even close to your above "quotation".
Incidentally, speaking of facts…how does the whopping 2% growth of MILC market share so far this year align with your worldview about the imminent dominance of mirrorless?
Apparently you need to distort facts
imminent dominance of mirrorless?
JonSnow said:but i think maybe 10 years until we see no new EF mount camera. maybe just 6-7, but very unlikely.