Architect1776
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They don't know what they are doing thus need to be saved from their incompetence in understanding exposure.
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Canon confirms 8K capable EOS R camera in development
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They don't know what they are doing thus need to be saved from their incompetence in understanding exposure.
Architect1776
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Perhaps Sony users are color blind so it is not important.
I was asked by a Sony user to look at a photo and it was actually horrid IMHO.
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I'm not big into video but have done a little. Personally I find the 'edginess' when using a 'too fast' shutter speed actually emulates the micro contrast/clarity I get from good quality 4k footage.
I find ND filter use to get the 'preferred' slower shutter speeds and 'cinematic look' to be less pleasing.
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Well I believe an 8K capable camera refers to the resolution of the sensor. So a camera capable of "8K" has more to do with the resolution/form-factor of the sensor. I am assuming a FF (35mm) sensor and not a Medium format sensor or something like the 72mm format...
If it is 8K packed into a FF 35mm sensor then this would indicate resolution "out of this world" - think EOS 5DS-r on steroids - I would guess in the 80-120MP range. But I'm not really a technical guy - just using a "WAG" here...
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This was discussed above. 8K is 7680×4320, which is 33 MP. Those dimensions taken from a 3:2 aspect ratio sensor would require 7680x5120, which is 39 MP. In other words, the 5Ds/R sensors are already fully capable of delivering 8K video from a resolution standpoint, no steroids required.
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Canon long ago decided stills & video would be co-developed for the foreseeable future. Japan is already broadcasting TV in 8K: https://www.engadget.com/2018/12/01/8k-japan-tv/. So one would assume that 8K TV are already available there and just over the horizon everywhere else. Given the development cycle it would be kind of shocking if 8K video was not being worked on.
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The BBC was using 8K video in the 2012 London Olympics: https://www.engadget.com/2012/07/31/super-hi-vision-eyes-on/
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It was not broadcast to TV sets of subscribers, just to a special Room with a 8K projector.
The Korean Olympics was broadcast by satellite to theaters with 8k Projectors so it was just a larger demo. It was also available down sampled to 4k for regular broadcasters.
http://informitv.com/2018/02/25/winter-olympics-8k-coverage/
The 2020 Olympics will be a bigger demo yet, the plan is to actually broadcast in 8K, and to sell 8K TV sets for viewers.
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20181207000442
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I watched this on a phone screen, and all the changes made no difference. I just watched it again on a large 4K monitor and yes, you can definitely see how the higher shutter speeds make it more jittery, but to be honest the difference is not a big as I thought it would be. If you kept the shutter speed in the lower half of the range that was shown, I doubt that most people would pick up on it unless they knew beforehand to look for it.
Thank you for posting this! Very interesting!
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I'm talking about photography, which at times requires high FPS and High pixels. I'm a nature shooter, which means birds and other sometimes fast moving animals. So the more FPS, the merrier.
It's not always one or the other, but if you could combine both in one body, that'd be great.
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Been There! Done That!
CODECS are NOW a DONE DEAL !!!! .... as you shall soon see ....
The issue NOW is ADC (Analog-to-Digital Converter) sample rate (over 100 megabytes per 8192 x 6144 pixel video frame if you sample at 16 bits per RGB plus Alpha or Distance channel which is 6+ Gigabytes per second bandwidth at 60 fps frame rates) plus overall available CPU/GPU/VRAM/Flash Drive bandwidth issues!
Nowadays, I can get TWO of the four-core, six-core or even 8-core 1.5 GHz Snapdragon 845-like Steve Austin processors which have a bandwidth for each chip that allows it to do an aggregated bandwidth of twin-stream 30+ megapixel images (which is about 7000x4500+ pixels each) at 60 fps. When I put TWO of the SOC's attached to a high-speed SHARED 150 frame buffer (5 seconds), there is enough time to do some FAST 16 milliseconds-and-less-level interleaving and CPU/GPU chaining-together such that I DEFINITELY CAN, on a hardware-engineering basis, do DCI 8k (8192 x 4320 pixels) video recording at a FULL 60 fps OR do 240 fps DCI 4k (4096 x 2160 pixels) !!!
I KNOW IT CAN BE DONE .... BECAUSE IT ALREADY HAS BEEN DONE !!!!!!
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It wasn't that long ago that people were complaining that there was nothing to play back 4K video on. 8K will be here sooner than you think.
I am 100% a still shooter, but I'm glad that Canon are working on 8K because the technical challenges that are needed to produce sensors capable of doing this will also provide us still shooters with sensors with faster readout, probably some kind of useable global shutter, and high resolution. All of these things that would not necessarily be economically viable to do just for us stills shooters because although those things are nice, they're not critical for us.
Also, I think a much larger number of people are doing video with their cameras than you think. The niche you talk about may soon be us still photographers.
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What an ignorant statement! Not sure if you're just inexperienced or simply a Canon fanboy who can't handle that the competition has a better sensor.
There are plenty of situations where the shot you want to take has extreme variations in lighting, especially when you're shooting outdoors (or in a room with a sunlit window) on a sunny day. Being able to work with images that have portions either underexposed or overexposed is something REAL photographers do too, you know...
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Specialist EF-mount lenses such as the TS-E range are likely to be the last EF lenses to stay in production in the future when RF has entirely taken over for this very reason. I would not be surprised though if they do future RF T/S lenses that they keep the same flange distance and add in a filter slot for the same CPL/ND that fits the adaptor - basically the existing EF lens 'welded' to an adaptor. The advantages of the shorter flange distance in this case being outweighed by the advantages of using that space for the filter.
I think the EF 11-24 won't be directly replaced, I expect something like an RF 12-24 f/2.8 lens at some point which won't have the filter adaptor.
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