Canon officially announces the RF 85mm f/1.2L USM

[Sharlin]

For the 5D2 and 5D3 I'm almost certain they didn't. It's just line skipping, based on what I remember from the time I followed the magic lantern forum closely.

Binning horizontally, skipping vertically. That's how I've understood it anyway.

 

[AlanF]

The lens won't complain though.

The RF 85mm f/1.2 is so sharp it will show every blemish, line, wrinkle and grey hair. You will complain.

 

[navastronia]

The computer generated mtfs Canon has released of the RF 85 f1.2 L compares favorably against Lensrentals mtf measurements of the Otus 85 and Sigma 85.

And that is at f1.2 compared to f1.4!

The best lens Lensrentals has measured wide open from an mtf standpoint is the new Sony FE 135 f1.8. The Canon RF 85 f1.2 seems comparable to the Sony.

But that is f1.2 vs f1.8!

The manufacturer MTFs from pre-release hardware are much less trustworthy than results measured by 3rd parties from off-the-shelf glass, of course, but the findings are still exciting in principle.

 

[Larsskv]

The manufacturer MTFs from pre-release hardware are much less trustworthy than results measured by 3rd parties from off-the-shelf glass, of course, but the findings are still exciting in principle.

I agree, but just now, I compared Canons published mtf charts of the 35LII with Lensrentals measurements, and I found them to be almost indistinguishable. Easy to compare if you google “mtf canon 35 L II “and display/search for images.

 

[unfocused]

$300 off at CPW street price.

 

[bf]

It's great for those who afford it!

 

[gmon750]

sorry for this first comment but the price of that lens is actually ridiculous...

This lens isn’t for you. Step aside for those that feel this lens is a worthy addition.

I for one will consider it when a pro R body is introduced.

 

[Foxeslink]

This lens isn’t for you. Step aside for those that feel this lens is a worthy addition.

I for one will consider it when a pro R body is introduced.

Who are you to tell me if this lens is not for me? lol
I want this lens, just not for this price. Cause as you should know, this lens in Europe costs 3250€. It's almost two Eos R Body.

 

[koenkooi]

Who are you to tell me if this lens is not for me? lol
I want this lens, just not for this price. Cause as you should know, this lens in Europe costs 3250€. It's almost two Eos R Body.

It's €3049 in most stores in .nl: https://www.cameranu.nl/nl/p2949615/canon-rf-85mm-f-1-2l-usm-ds-objectief . That includes all taxes.

 

[Foxeslink]

It's €3049 in most stores in .nl: https://www.cameranu.nl/nl/p2949615/canon-rf-85mm-f-1-2l-usm-ds-objectief . That includes all taxes.

In my country the inflation is higher, so it costs more.

 

[uri.raz]

The lens is bigger than the camera. That's why it's almost $3K. I realize that newer technology costs, but that's too expensive.

I guess the price is high because Canon doesn't expect the lens to sell well. All camera equipment sales are plunging, and high end primes are probably doing the worst.

 

[Kit Lens Jockey]

Who exactly is Canon making these lenses for? I've splurged on a lot of high end cameras and lenses in the past, but even I can't stomach this much for a prime lens.

I understand that these are "professional" lenses, but most of my photographer friends are definitely not in a place where they could drop this money on a lens.

I've been wanting an RF 50 1.2 for a while as well, but you still can't touch those for much under $2000, even used. One of the few used RF 50mms that I've seen come up for sale had sample photos the owner took that consisted of a glass of wine and a middle-aged woman standing next to a horse.

So, are these lenses basically just for extremely wealthy people who have too much money, or maybe a small sliver of upper-echelon professional photographers who make tons of money from their photography?

Seriously, who is the target market for these lenses? A normal person would not have a need for this, and it doesn't seem like spending this much on a lens would make good business sense for most professionals.

 

[Viggo]

Yeah, it went up a bit in price here also now, 3605 USD... maybe a used one in 5 years for me then

 

[YuengLinger]

Yeah, it went up a bit in price here also now, 3605 USD... maybe a used one in 5 years for me then

Ha! Just keep telling yourself this.

 

[danfaz]

Who exactly is Canon making these lenses for? I've splurged on a lot of high end cameras and lenses in the past, but even I can't stomach this much for a prime lens.

I understand that these are "professional" lenses, but most of my photographer friends are definitely not in a place where they could drop this money on a lens.

I've been wanting an RF 50 1.2 for a while as well, but you still can't touch those for much under $2000, even used. One of the few used RF 50mms that I've seen come up for sale had sample photos the owner took that consisted of a glass of wine and a middle-aged woman standing next to a horse.

So, are these lenses basically just for extremely wealthy people who have too much money, or maybe a small sliver of upper-echelon professional photographers who make tons of money from their photography?

Seriously, who is the target market for these lenses? A normal person would not have a need for this, and it doesn't seem like spending this much on a lens would make good business sense for most professionals.

I refer you to this excellent post earlier in the thread. Who did they make the EF 85 1.2 II for back in 2006, considering it was the same relative cost then?

the 85 1.2 version 2 was launched at 2199$ in 2006 which, adjusted for inflation, means 2797$
just saying..

 

[Kit Lens Jockey]

Must be why you see so many people with EF 85mm 1.2 II lenses then... Oh wait.

 

[Loswr]

Must be why you see so many people with EF 85mm 1.2 II lenses then... Oh wait.

I’ve seen many professional portrait and wedding photographers with an 85/1.2. Had one myself, swapped it for the f/1.4 IS version (although cost was not a factor in that decision).

 

[scyrene]

Hey! Some info on the DS version versus the standard RF 85 f1.2 L here: https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/...RF-85mm-F12-L-USM-vs-the-RF-86mm-F12-L-USM-DS

Edit: Of most interest to me was the reported light loss from the DS version, of 1,5 stops when shooting wide open. Interesting image samples to.

And the DS version won’t be announced until 2 half of 2019...

That was really ueful, thanks fo sharing! The DS effect looks lush. Given how much light f/1.2 lets in, I wouldn't be too bothered about the loss of transmission, but others may disagree.

 

[scyrene]

So true. Plus, you pay the lens once, but the woman is taking your money that 20 years..So the lens is actually cheap.

Okay can we lay off the casual misogyny? It's gross.

 

[Larsskv]

Yeah, it went up a bit in price here also now, 3605 USD... maybe a used one in 5 years for me then

I noticed a price increase in some online retailers, and my weak character made me hurry to place an order at a store that hadn’t yet increased the price. I would have bought it sooner or later anyway, so why wait...?