What does split prism focusing have to do with AF?
That's how AF works in an SLR. It uses the split prism method with linear pixel arrays to detect the phase difference instead of you using your eyes.
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What does split prism focusing have to do with AF?
Tamron 400/6.3 in Pentax PK mount : 695 grams. So...I wonder if they would make 350gram RPii and 300gram 400mm f8 DO .
Would make mft feel like heavy brick
Walking around and accidentally having a 5,6 with you? This will not happen.For me it's not a matter of whether I would *choose* to shoot at f/11 on other lenses, but the fact that an f/11 lens doesn't afford me the flexibility to shoot faster if need be. Having an f/5.6 lens and shooting at f/11 is much different than needing f/5.6 but only having f/11. Yes, if the new cams resolve better at low light that's great, but I still would rather shoot at lower ISO values and a wider aperture. Every lens has its target audience, I get that, but I'm still baffled by Canon's aperture choices of many of these lenses being talked about. And I would argue I'm clearly not in the target audience for them.
Just for helping the phantasies how to use these "crappy smartphone style F11s"
Walking around and accidentally having a 5,6 with you? This will not happen.
Nice to have a ultra portable F11 just in case ...
Fact.
Yes, sitting in a blind or car a wide aperture makes sense, I use one.
The problem is that they have chosen to use very few elements in these new lenses, 9 elements in 6 groups, cf the ancient 400/5.6 which is 7 elements in 6 groups and 10.4" long. That keeps the cost down. To make it shorter, they would have to put in more groups. The 500PF is 19 elements in 11 groups, for example.Ultra portable?? Think again...
Here is a comparison of lens lengths....these new lenses are pretty long....a 500/5.6PF is a much better walk around lens...add a 1.4TC for more reach.
Adjusted for length to mount and not sensor (-20cm from patent). Also one might want to add 0.9" to any of the lenses needed to adapt to the R cameras:
600/11 DO: 314.97mm or 12.4"
800/11 DO: 369.25mm or 14.5"
A few comparison lengths:
Sony 200-600: 12.5"
Nikon 500PF: 9.33"
Canon 400 f.2.8 III: 13.5"
Canon 400DOII: 9.16"
Canon 400DOII/2xTCIII(800 f/8): 11.26"
Canon 600III: 17.64"
Canon 800L: 18.15"
Conclusion: Long, skinny lenses....
Oh...and the lens they should have made: 600 f/8 DO: 11.78"
Oh...and the lens they should have made: 600 f/8 DO: 11.78"
Where is it reported they won't have weather sealing?The f/11 lenses don't mean we won't get a 600mm f/5.6 - f/8 DO L lens. These f/11's also won't have weather sealing but leave plenty of space between them and the f/4 giants to fit in a middle of the road DO L lens.
Walking around and accidentally having a 5,6 with you? This will not happen.
Nice to have a ultra portable F11 just in case ...
Fact.
Yes, sitting in a blind or car a wide aperture makes sense, I use one.
The new sensors (from any manufacturer) are not expected to have much greater dynamic range "in conditions without bright light".Maybe I am missing something , but if the new sensor has greater dynamic range than f11 may become a lot more usable in conditions without bright light ,
Go out and run a 100-400 II at f11, and then put a 2x extender on it and do the same. it is a world of difference. Yes, there will always be some level of focus issue at f11 due to light restrictions byt make no mistake that a lense designed to work at f11 will be immensely more efficient than a lens running a 2x extender.You do know the reason the AF is slow because it is f/8 or f/11, so how does an 800 f/11 magically fix that
you do realise that Canon cameras focus wide open? If you run 100-400 at f/11, the Canon camera still focusing at the widest available aperture. f/5.6 @400mm. Not f/11. Hence the difference in AF speed you pointed out.Go out and run a 100-400 II at f11, and then put a 2x extender on it and do the same. it is a world of difference. Yes, there will always be some level of focus issue at f11 due to light restrictions byt make no mistake that a lense designed to work at f11 will be immensely more efficient than a lens running a 2x extender.
I’ve read here that R series cameras sometimes focus stopped down. I don’t know under what circumstances, though.you do realise that Canon cameras focus wide open? If you run 100-400 at f/11, the Canon camera still focusing at the widest available aperture. f/5.6 @400mm. Not f/11. Hence the difference in AF speed you pointed out.
make no mistake, that Lens designed To work at f/11 will be not immensely more efficient than a lens running 2x extender. Due to “light restrictions” as you put it
And just think how nice that would be with subject tracking IS, which is a real possibility. (If the info is there to track AF, then it is also there for IS. Just need to figure out how to apply it.)Just for helping the phantasies how to use these "crappy smartphone style F11s"
700mm (500& 1.4x) F10, ISO200, 1/800sec, 16 years old sensor technology (EOS1D MII)
Sorry, the sun reflection in the eye is barely visible here in canonrumors.
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Some take the smartphone to walk around, I will do with the 600 F11