Canon officially announces the EOS R5 and EOS R6 along with 4 new lenses and two teleconverters

[Franklyok]

DCI 8K (8192 x 4320) at 23.976p/24.00p/25p/29.97p [2600 Mb/s]

compared to

1dx3 5.5K raw at 2800 Mb/s

What does this say about streams quality ?

 

[jolyonralph]

no GPS on the R5 correct?

No GPS. Probably because of the Chinese market.

So it's confirmed 5.6 at 400? Where do you see that info?

It was mentioned on the live stream that it has approximately the same light gathering as the EF 100-400 at those ranges, and specifically f/5.6 at 400mm.

 

[StoicalEtcher]

So 8 stops with IBIS alone?

My take from the launch on that is you get 8 stops - but only when using both the R5/R6 with an appropriate R lens - i.e.. use a lens without IBIS, or non-RF lens, and you don't get the full 8 stops. They didn't mention this, but I think I gathered it must be around 5 stops to the lens and 3 to the body, to get the 8 (?)

 

[Deleted member 381342]

That would be a bit of a bummer and make the lens not nearly as valuable for landscape. I use my 100-400 for shooting dunes and definitely work throughout the focal range. I guess you would definitely not be using either extender as a result.

Same with some wildlife shots. I don't always need to be at 400. Sometimes you are able to get close enough that the short end of the 100-400 is all you need or you want to add some context to the wildlife shot and shoot the animal/bird wider. Won't be useful for this situation either. Makes me think I will not be pre-ordering the extenders until I think that through a bit more.

See I kinda start at 200mm so the 100mm range does nothing for me. But in saying that I always have my Nikon Z6 with me and the 50mm or 85mm attached to it. Really compact second camera for if I need closer shots. It is so light you don't feel it and the Nikon 50mm an 85mm Z lenses are fantastic, honestly even if I go for the R5 and 100-500 until the primes come out, I'll still keep my Z6 and its little primes.

 

[JoTomOz]

600mm and 800mm fixed at f/11... not sure how I feel about that. Images look pretty decent though

 

[briangus]

Do we know if the IBIS will be working with EF lenses with the adaptor or will it turn off. I saw mentioned working with other manufacturer lenses if you input the focal length but I can't seem to find any mention of the integration with EF lenses. Anyone know ?

In the Singapore presentation they stated that EF and RF lenses would both work in conjunction with IBIS

 

[highdesertmesa]

This. Here's what DPreview has in their write-up:

"The 100-500mm is compatible with Canon's new RF 1.4x and 2x teleconverters, though the lens must be set to 300mm or longer before one can be attached. A physical hard stop prevents the user from accidentally zooming out past 300mm with these teleconverters."

The painful price of ultra-high IQ TC performance I suppose, which better rival a lens without one.

 

[Doug7131]

DCI 8K (8192 x 4320) at 23.976p/24.00p/25p/29.97p [2600 Mb/s]

compared to

1dx3 5.5K raw at 2800 Mb/s

What does this say about streams quality ?

It's RAW so it will be the same. Remember the data rate for the 1DX3 is at 60FPS 5.5K. The pixel throughput is very similar between 5.5K/60 and 8K/30.

 

[highdesertmesa]

No pixel shift. Yet. Guessing the rumor of the surprise feature for still photographers was false.

 

[Deleted member 381342]

R5 around 20 minutes of 8k without overheating. So there's your gotcha if you where hoping for 8k. Of course in Sunny Scotland I'll be able to shoot all day and night.

 

[iheartcanon]

R5 spec link

https://www.canon.com.au/cameras/-/media/files/canon/product-brochure/cameras/mirrorless-cameras/eos-r5-tech-sheet.ashx

No high frame rate for FHD video, only 60fps?

 

[dtaylor]

Is Canon still doomed?

There is a doom cloud in view, but it's hovering over Sony headquarters.

 

[BakaBokeh]

Well damn. I was really skeptical about the f5.6 at 400 on the 100-500. Was sure it was gonna be f6.3. Guess I gotta put it on the wishlist now.

 

[Colorado]

My take from the launch on that is you get 8 stops - but only when using both the R5/R6 with an appropriate R lens - i.e.. use a lens without IBIS, or non-RF lens, and you don't get the full 8 stops. They didn't mention this, but I think I gathered it must be around 5 stops to the lens and 3 to the body, to get the 8 (?)

It appears to be body only and varies from 6-8 stops depending on the lens attached. Here's a chart from dpreview.com.

8 stops

• 24-70mm F2.8L
• 24-105mm F4L
• 24-105mm F4-7.1
• 28-70mm F2L
• 85mm F1.2L
• 85mm F2 Macro

7.5 stops

• 70-200mm F2.8L

7 stops

• 15-35mm F2.8L
• 35mm F1.8 IS
• 50mm F1.2L

6.5 stops

• 24-240mm F4-6.3

6 stops

• 100-500mm F4.5-7.1L

 

[highdesertmesa]

If anyone finds a review talking about the dynamic range/shadow recovery performance, please post a link. Not finding anything yet.

 

[Sharlin]

f/5.6 at 400! Suddenly that lens makes sense!

You really think that f/5.6 versus, say, f/6.3 at 400mm would make even a slightest bit of difference in whether this lens makes sense? Damn people are fixated at that f/5.6 figure only because it used to be a limit in a legacy AF system.

 

[Sharlin]

Interesting that the extenders only extend focal range from 300-500 mm on the 100-500mm lens. This is an interesting and potentially amazing advance. It will preserve the wide of 100 and 200 while extending the reach to 700-1000mm. I assume sacrifice in f stop throughout range but not sure about that as well. Would be amazing if it didn't impact f stop either until 300mm.

What? The extenders can only be physically attached to the lens at 300mm or greater. Below that the rear element of the lens would hit the extender's front element. There's an interlock that prevents that from happening.

 

[Deleted member 381342]

You really think that f/5.6 versus, say, f/6.3 at 400mm would make even a slightest bit of difference in whether this lens makes sense? Damn people are fixated at that f/5.6 figure only because it used to be a limit in a legacy AF system.

I think it is more about there not being any compromise from the 100-400 II f/5.6. People want to feel the lens is a 1:1 upgrade.

 

[Sibir Lupus]

R5 around 20 minutes of 8k without overheating. So there's your gotcha if you where hoping for 8k. Of course in Sunny Scotland I'll be able to shoot all day and night.

How is that a "gotcha"?? 8K recording with DPAF II plus full sensor readout with no crop AND no fan to cool the camera. Seeing as this isn't a cinema camera with a fan and a $10K+ price tag, 20 minutes of 8K recording seems reasonable for a camera designed to be well rounded while still offering high end capability for both stills and video .

 

[Sharlin]

DCI 8K (8192 x 4320) at 23.976p/24.00p/25p/29.97p [2600 Mb/s]

compared to

1dx3 5.5K raw at 2800 Mb/s

What does this say about streams quality ?

Nothing. The 1DX3's 2800Mb/s figure is at 60fps. And 5.5K60fps is roughly the same amount of data as 8K30fps.