Here is the list of manufacturers offering unrestricted 8K in a sub-$4,000 camera:
It's a long one, isn't it?
It can be as long as you want to make it with more "carriage returns."
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Here is the list of manufacturers offering unrestricted 8K in a sub-$4,000 camera:
It's a long one, isn't it?
It can be as long as you want to make it with more "carriage returns."
Please explain how CANON added to “expectations” beyond listing specs and limitations...
I mean publicizing the specs alone and leading with that on every ad is pretty misleading.
From Canon’s page: “Canon revolutionized the video industry with the introduction of the EOS 5D Mark II which provided solutions for what was previously seen as improbable - the EOS R5 will again push the boundaries of what filmmakers can do compared to current DSLR and Mirrorless cameras. With Internal, uncropped 8K video shooting at up to 29.97fps, and 4K video shooting at up to 119.9fps, in 4:2:2 10-bit (H.265) Canon Log, and Dual Pixel CMOS AF available in all 8K and 4K modes, image makers worldwide will be able to tell their stories in larger-than-life resolutions. Additional new features include: Internally recorded and uncropped 8K RAW Recording up to 29.97 fps with Dual Pixel CMOS AF, and HDR-PQ Recording (H.265) capability.”
You’ll be hard pressed to find anything about limitations due to heat on their website.
Peter?
It’s time to be honest and agree that Canon built up a lot of hype on the R5 for video. Usability is way more important.
It’s time to be honest?
I guess it depends on who you are, how long you’ve been around, and how gullible you are when it comes to advertising.
There is nothing in that release that isn’t true, and nothing that I don’t take with a grain of salt. To me common sense dictates - unless somehow you believe that Canon figured out a way to beat physics that no one ever has before...
Then the YouTubers got it and played “what if” until expectations were so high there was no where to go but down...
There gets to a point where advertising can become insulting to the consumer, gullible or not. Canon withholding the time limitations until after Pre-order day and not even being on their website is dishonest. That’s my opinion. I’m glad Peter was able to say something in his review for it.
Let me sell you a sports car.
Awesome, wait where’s the engine?
Oh, no engine, but it’s still a sports car. See? I wrote it on the spec sheet!
What YouTuber specifically?
Usability is really subjective, I think most people will find that the following is true in practice:I mean publicizing the specs alone and leading with that on every ad is pretty misleading.
From Canon’s page: “Canon revolutionized the video industry with the introduction of the EOS 5D Mark II which provided solutions for what was previously seen as improbable - the EOS R5 will again push the boundaries of what filmmakers can do compared to current DSLR and Mirrorless cameras. With Internal, uncropped 8K video shooting at up to 29.97fps, and 4K video shooting at up to 119.9fps, in 4:2:2 10-bit (H.265) Canon Log, and Dual Pixel CMOS AF available in all 8K and 4K modes, image makers worldwide will be able to tell their stories in larger-than-life resolutions. Additional new features include: Internally recorded and uncropped 8K RAW Recording up to 29.97 fps with Dual Pixel CMOS AF, and HDR-PQ Recording (H.265) capability.”
You’ll be hard pressed to find anything about limitations due to heat on their website.
Peter?
It’s time to be honest and agree that Canon built up a lot of hype on the R5 for video. Usability is way more important.
I have an EOS R.
Well when the company is not disclosing the time limitations due to heat, one is only left with the option to look at others’ experience with the camera. There are paid ambassadors for sure. Some are not. You must decide who you trust or don’t. I value users like Gerald Undone and the extensive tests he runs to help me make a decision if the camera might work or not. And then I also have 30 days. All these things don’t discount Canon’s lack of willingness to disclose details essential to the consumer. It’s a bad look.It’s up to the consumer whether or not they’re insulted by advertising - not the other way around. I take the easy way - I don’t believe any of it until whatever it is hits the street and people are using it. Real people - not paid hacks that shill for their favorite brands. YouTubers arenot your friends or relatives - they’re in it for a buck. Honestly, if paid YouTube influencers went away tomorrow I would not miss a single one of them. Not a one.
Nothing on the spec sheet is a lie and your analogy is a fail.
The equivalent would be the Bugatti scenario. It’ll do 250, but with a lot of prep and limitations. All that info is in the owner’s manual - it isn’t advertised. The 250MPH is though.
People these days seem to count on other people to tell them if a camera is going to fit their needs or not. If it’s “good enough for them..”
If Canon chooses not to reveal all info until release day that’s fine with me. I have the choice to buy or not to buy and as far as I’m concerned that’s the end of it. Not to mention I have 30 days to send it back at no cost if I don’t like it. TO ME, that’s fair.
I was in the military for 30 years and if nothing else it made me one of the biggest skeptics to ever walk the face of the earth.
Now my 5D4 and my 100L f.2.8 are going to go chase bees around the lavender.
If you don’t want negative PR, find a way to keep idiot YouTubers from grabbing one item off a possible features list LONG BEFORE any official announcement about anything, and driving it into the ground before the fruit is even ripe. YouTubers overhyped 8K Before Canon even opened it’s mouth. Period.
Fixed it for you.
I am with you. I have the R5 and have been shooting it for 2 days now. I have used only EF lenses; my 600 f/4 IS II and an old 400 5.6 non-IS to see how the IBIS works. I have been nothing but stunned in a positive way. Great IBIS on the non-IS lens, awesome AF on all lenses, and super image quality of the 45mp sensor. I am shooting in the baking Florida sun and no over-heating when shooting stills and then short 4k60 vid clips. I generally shoot only 2-3 min. clips and it has worked great so far. I could not be happier at this point. For my type of work it seems like I may have found a real winner at less than 4K dollars. I will take it and run.So Canon built an amazing stills centric hybrid capable of cutting edge video performance not seen in anything else close to this price point that performs as they state it will and who’s stills performance equals or exceeds any other camera and they are doomed?
Just listen to yourselves, God I hate all this crap.
I wonder how much one could reduce the cooldown time by using something like a small Peltier-cooled travel fridge or similar device. Also, how much effect removing the lens has. How about a Peltier cooler that you can mount on the camera in place of a lens?!
So buy a video centric hybrid.
I don’t speak for Canon, but they would probably prefer a potential customer to move to another brand Instead of continuously bad mouthing the Canon brand.You basically just said "move to another brand and don't invest in Canon RF glass." Is that really what Canon wants or needs in this shrinking market?
Awesome images, thank you for sharing!I am with you. I have the R5 and have been shooting it for 2 days now. I have used only EF lenses; my 600 f/4 IS II and an old 400 5.6 non-IS to see how the IBIS works. I have been nothing but stunned in a positive way. Great IBIS on the non-IS lens, awesome AF on all lenses, and super image quality of the 45mp sensor. I am shooting in the baking Florida sun and no over-heating when shooting stills and then short 4k60 vid clips. I generally shoot only 2-3 min. clips and it has worked great so far. I could not be happier at this point. For my type of work it seems like I may have found a real winner at less than 4K dollars. I will take it and run.
Why is a gimmick? How many times you need over 20 minutes of shooting? Seriously!
You can do amazing things with 5-10 minute 8K shots.
I downloaded to look at the files. The STK head on was shot with a Sony 9 II + 200-600mm according to the EXIF. How does the Sony compare with the R5?I am with you. I have the R5 and have been shooting it for 2 days now. I have used only EF lenses; my 600 f/4 IS II and an old 400 5.6 non-IS to see how the IBIS works. I have been nothing but stunned in a positive way. Great IBIS on the non-IS lens, awesome AF on all lenses, and super image quality of the 45mp sensor. I am shooting in the baking Florida sun and no over-heating when shooting stills and then short 4k60 vid clips. I generally shoot only 2-3 min. clips and it has worked great so far. I could not be happier at this point. For my type of work it seems like I may have found a real winner at less than 4K dollars. I will take it and run.