Canon cameras that I’m told are coming in 2021

[dolina]

I have a number of clients who believe sales (not cameras - other goods) will have some pent-up demand once retailers are all open as normal again - so, subject to how it goes, 2021 may yet be a bumper year.....

I'm sure there will be pent up demand. I hope I can continue to buy into companies whose shares will rocket hours after I buy them.

 

[Nigel95]

I'm sure there will be pent up demand. I hope I can continue to buy into companies whose shares will rocket hours after I buy them.

Flip a coin

 

[dlee13]

Yep to be honest I agree with you, I believe the R6 really has such a nice feature set. I’m just a bit annoyed that I mostly shoot landscapes (for travel purposes) and a bit of portraiture and dropping from the 30mp of the R to the 20 of the R6 makes me a little afraid of losing details, especially considering how good RF lenses are.

But I can’t argue that the R6 is an underrated and truly wonderful camera

I can’t remember which reviewer said it so I can’t do a direct quote and can’t remember the exact terminology but they said with sensors there’s the amount of megapixels then the actual resolution. You could have two sensors, one 20mp and one 30mp, they could both resolve the same amount of sharpness and details but one just has more size and MP than the other but isn’t necessarily sharper if that makes sense.

More would definitely be nice but everything about this camera like the DR, high ISO performance and autofocus are a huge step up over the 6DII. I remember when the 6DII came out (which I owned), many 6D users said they rather Canon keep the 20MP and just improve on stuff like DR and banding in shadows.

 

[xps]

Will anyone speculate on a very realistic price points of these bodies?

I am fairly certain they will cost about 10% more than the introductory price of the models they are replacing.

• $7,199 R1 vs $6,499 1D X Mark III
• $4,099 R5s vs $3,699 5Ds
• $1,999 R7 vs $1,799 7D Mark II

Edit: Added the introductory price of the dSLR bodies that the mirrorless bodies directly replaces

My thoughts (prices include 19%VAT in Germany):
R1 7499-7999€ (if the MP count is 40MP or above with 20-25fps, maybe 8499)
R5s 4999€
R7 2699-2999€ (Everybody is waiting for this body - the can require each price under 3000 for it)

Canon will try to milk us.
They are not Apple, but they are on the way to their pricing policy. Some month ago - if you would have said, you´ve to spend 4499€ here in Germany for the R5 , no one would have beleived in this high price. Also not in the prices for the zooms

I´m more afraid of the prices of the primes. Wild french rumors see the RF 600mm @ 14599€ in Germany, the 800mm near 16599... This would be a little bit to much for my wallet.

 

[David - Sydney]

My concern with IBIS is that it's an incredibly intricate electromechanical system subjected to constant use and shocks. We don't really know what the longevity will be in normal use.
At least if a lens IS fails, it doesn't affect the body or other lenses.

Well, Canon Australia provides a 5 year warranty so IBIS will be covered for that time period.

 

[dolina]

Canon will try to milk us.
They are not Apple, but they are on the way to their pricing policy.

I´m more afraid of the prices of the primes. Wild french rumors see rhe RF 600mm @ 15999€ in Germany, the 800mm near 17000... This would be a little bit to much for my wallet.

Canon has no choice if they want to stay solvent.

In 2012 ILCs used to ship more than 20.1 million units. 2019 it was less than 8.5 million. By 2025/2026 ILCs will not ship more than 6 million units annually.

I expect these lenses to have significant weight reduction improvements.

• $14,299 Canon RF 800mm f/5.6L IS USM @ less than 2.9kg from 4.5kg
• $14,299 Canon RF 600mm f/4L IS USM @ less than 2.8kg from from 3.05kg

Believe you me it's worth the $2,000 premium to carry lighter gear.

 

[drhuffman87]

3D haptic/gesture touch bars, push hard and turn the control ring for ISO, push medium for aperture, push light for shutter, double-tap and hold for focus, triple-tap for program settings. Everyone will love it!

Maybe it can have user eye-detection as well so that when the photographer blinks it takes a picture with the silent shutter for super stealth mode.

 

[tataylino]

I'm more excited on the lower cost FF camera. I hope they will still sell RP so it will priced below the new entry level FF camera. The RP is still expensive for my budget today.haha

 

[criscokkat]

I'm wondering what sort of sensor will be in the new ultra cheap and replacement for the R.

I'm actually wondering if it will be the same setup as the aps-c cameras. Just make one or two sensors and put them in everything, then add features to make them different. Less processing horespower/worse viewfinder in RP-lite, or even no viewfinder. Then one with bells and whistles priced under the R6 but not as fast as the R6. The R6 is in a weird place. I think a lot of people who have bought it simply because they couldn't afford the R5 price point. There are certainly sports and videographers that love the speed and focus, but there are a lot of people that could live in the 8-10 fps range if it didn't drastically drop in speed while tracking.

 

[Arod820]

Still waiting for my C70 I ordered a month ago. I think all these cameras will be out by the time I get it.

 

[Lucas Tingley]

camera i would get in a heartbeat( if i had the money) would be a m6 mark ii speed and mp count, weather sealed and with the same number of af points, animal af and a mode dial woth the top lcd because it always bothers me to have to push a button and then spin the dial

call it the r4 maybe

 

[Danglin52]

With RF mount, it will not necessarily be lighter as the mount is dictating that. The 7D is heavier than the 6D. Yes, the rebels are lighter but that is due to the body construction rather than the sensor size.
A smaller sensor is cheaper but the rumour has a cheaper full frame under the RP which is already the cheapest full frame on the market. A 7D replacement is likely to be as expensive as the R and maybe R6 if the fps/AF/dual cards etc are maintained

The 7d/7dII were considered by many to be the 1dx mini me. Since Canon is in an aggressive mood, I think the R7 might have a similar relationship with the R1. I would not expect this camera to have a budget price.

 

[mclaren777]

I thought that was pretty much a done deal - no 5dV. Is that not correct?

I'm supremely disappointed that some of the AF tech in the 1DX3 won't be coming to the 5D series.

I really, really want to buy a few 5DVs.

 

[Traveler]

I'm hoping for my EOS R replacement. The R5 is out of my budged and the R6 doesn't have the top LCD.

 

[Maru]

I'm hoping for my EOS R replacement. The R5 is out of my budged and the R6 doesn't have the top LCD.

same here but i need 30mp...with ibis...dont care about other R6 features...but cant pay more than R6

 

[Lucas Tingley]

same here but i need 30mp...with ibis...dont care about other R6 features...but cant pay more than R6

basically a perfect camera with those specs

 

[Traveler]

same here but i need 30mp...with ibis...dont care about other R6 features...but cant pay more than R6

I don't want to pay more than for the R6 haha. It's already more expensive than the R. 20Mpix is alright for me though.

 

[Jasonmc89]

I'm supremely disappointed that some of the AF tech in the 1DX3 won't be coming to the 5D series.

I really, really want to buy a few 5DVs.

Why not buy a few R5s then?

 

[Stu_bert]

Just for fun....

Model	Price	Res	Sensor	IBIS	Crop	GS	FPS	Mem Card	Slots	Max Video	Weather
R1	6999	45	FF	Y	17.5	Y	30	CFE	2	8K30	Best
R5S	4999	90	FF	Y	35	N	8	UHS	2	4K30	2nd Best
R5	3999	45	FF	Y	n/a	N	20	CFE, UHS	2	8K30	2nd Best
R7	2999	32	APS	Y	n/a	N	20	CFE, UHS	2	4K120	2nd Best
R6	2499	20	FF	Y	n/a	N	20	UHS	2	4K60	3rd Best
R MK II	1999	30	FF	N	n/a	N	8	UHS	1	4K60	4th Best
RP MK II	1199	26	FF	N	n/a	N	6	UHS	1	4K30 Crop	4th Best
R9	1199	32	APS	N	n/a	N	6	UHS	1	4K30 Crop	4th Best

GS = Global Shutter
Crop = I think these two bodies will have hardware crop...
FPS - Electronic Max, not Mehanical.
Weather = Weather Sealing

 

[dolina]

Just for fun....

Model	Price	Res	Sensor	IBIS	Crop	GS	FPS	Mem Card	Slots	Max Video	Weather
R1	6999	45	FF	Y	17.5	Y	30	CFE	2	8K30	Best
R5S	4999	90	FF	Y	35	N	8	UHS	2	4K30	2nd Best
R5	3999	45	FF	Y	n/a	N	20	CFE, UHS	2	8K30	2nd Best
R7	2999	32	APS	Y	n/a	N	20	CFE, UHS	2	4K120	2nd Best
R6	2499	20	FF	Y	n/a	N	20	UHS	2	4K60	3rd Best
R MK II	1999	30	FF	N	n/a	N	8	UHS	1	4K60	4th Best
RP MK II	1199	26	FF	N	n/a	N	6	UHS	1	4K30 Crop	4th Best
R9	1199	32	APS	N	n/a	N	6	UHS	1	4K30 Crop	4th Best

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GS = Global Shutter
Crop = I think these two bodies will have hardware crop...
FPS - Electronic Max, not Mehanical.
Weather = Weather Sealing

With the sheer diversity of bodies one would think Canon will be shipping more than 5.7 million bodies per year.