Canon cameras that I’m told are coming in 2021

[Exploreshootshare]

My concern with IBIS is that it's an incredibly intricate electromechanical system subjected to constant use and shocks. We don't really know what the longevity will be in normal use.

At least if a lens IS fails, it doesn't affect the body or other lenses.

I am with you on that. A friend of mine works in a camera repair facility and he once told me that the No. 1 repair issue with Sony cameras are broken IBIS units. Therefore, I was always happy to have in-lense IS and no IBIS on my R because you know. how life goes: the IBIS will break when you need your camera most or no repair store is close

At some point in the distant future (around 2023/2024) I´ll to buy a new camera (probably will have IBIS then) but I'll definitely keep my R as backup because I'm worried about not being able to use my camera due to broken IBIS or anything similar. Since I travel a lot (when there's no pandemic...) and I don't exactly "baby my gear" this is a major concern.

 

[Nigel95]

Just for fun....

Model	Price	Res	Sensor	IBIS	Crop	GS	FPS	Mem Card	Slots	Max Video	Weather
R1	6999	45	FF	Y	17.5	Y	30	CFE	2	8K30	Best
R5S	4999	90	FF	Y	35	N	8	UHS	2	4K30	2nd Best
R5	3999	45	FF	Y	n/a	N	20	CFE, UHS	2	8K30	2nd Best
R7	2999	32	APS	Y	n/a	N	20	CFE, UHS	2	4K120	2nd Best
R6	2499	20	FF	Y	n/a	N	20	UHS	2	4K60	3rd Best
R MK II	1999	30	FF	N	n/a	N	8	UHS	1	4K60	4th Best
RP MK II	1199	26	FF	N	n/a	N	6	UHS	1	4K30 Crop	4th Best
R9	1199	32	APS	N	n/a	N	6	UHS	1	4K30 Crop	4th Best

View attachment 195056

GS = Global Shutter
Crop = I think these two bodies will have hardware crop...
FPS - Electronic Max, not Mehanical.
Weather = Weather Sealing

Hope you are right with 4k 120 on the R7. I would buy it at that price. If 4k 60 and 1080 120 I would take it aswell for a bit less cost. Hopefully they will add C log 2 and 3 as well but probably asking too much...

 

[Antono Refa]

I doubt Canon has invested in 5 stills cameras, and 3 cine cameras. That's a big investment in both R&D and manufacturing lines in a shrinking economy and corona crisis. I'm sure there are 7D & 1DX replacements in the pipe, as well as an 8K cinema camera, but not 8 cameras in one year.

 

[max]

My 5D3 still works wonderfully, even with over 200k shutter actuations but maybe I can be teased into finally going ML.

I just put mine up for sale with 168000! I thought it had 80.000... and still works great.
I want a R5 but probably getting a R6 because of the price.

 

[max]

Just for fun....

Model	Price	Res	Sensor	IBIS	Crop	GS	FPS	Mem Card	Slots	Max Video	Weather
R1	6999	45	FF	Y	17.5	Y	30	CFE	2	8K30	Best
R5S	4999	90	FF	Y	35	N	8	UHS	2	4K30	2nd Best
R5	3999	45	FF	Y	n/a	N	20	CFE, UHS	2	8K30	2nd Best
R7	2999	32	APS	Y	n/a	N	20	CFE, UHS	2	4K120	2nd Best
R6	2499	20	FF	Y	n/a	N	20	UHS	2	4K60	3rd Best
R MK II	1999	30	FF	N	n/a	N	8	UHS	1	4K60	4th Best
RP MK II	1199	26	FF	N	n/a	N	6	UHS	1	4K30 Crop	4th Best
R9	1199	32	APS	N	n/a	N	6	UHS	1	4K30 Crop	4th Best

View attachment 195056

GS = Global Shutter
Crop = I think these two bodies will have hardware crop...
FPS - Electronic Max, not Mehanical.
Weather = Weather Sealing

no way APS-C for 3000 bucks.
The APS-H is long gone and I don't think it will be back now that cameras can crop in the viewfinder.

 

[dolina]

I doubt Canon has invested in 5 stills cameras, and 3 cine cameras. That's a big investment in both R&D and manufacturing lines in a shrinking economy and corona crisis. I'm sure there are 7D & 1DX replacements in the pipe, as well as an 8K cinema camera, but not 8 cameras in one year.

If we were to base the direction of Canon on the image sensor size of their point & shoots they may end up having ~80% full frame and ~20% APS-C bodies.

Canon currently holds 45.4% of the global DSC market for 2020. That is roughly

• 3.62 million out of 8.04 million total DSC
• 1.43 million out of 3.25 million point & shoots
• 2.18 million out of 4.79 million dSLRs
• 1.18 million out of 2.61 million mirrorless

Such low numbers will be a U shape that may settle by 2025/2026 with these numbers with Canon being more than 50%

• 3.5 million out of 7 million total DSC
• 0.3 million out of 0.6 million point & shoots
• 0.3 million out of 0.6 million dSLRs
• 2.9 million out of 5.8 million mirrorless

 

[John Wilde]

My thoughts (prices include 19%VAT in Germany):
R1 7499-7999€ (if the MP count is 40MP or above with 20-25fps, maybe 8499)
R5s 4999€
R7 2699-2999€ (Everybody is waiting for this body - the can require each price under 3000 for it)

Canon will try to milk us.
They are not Apple, but they are on the way to their pricing policy. Some month ago - if you would have said, you´ve to spend 4499€ here in Germany for the R5 , no one would have beleived in this high price. Also not in the prices for the zooms

I´m more afraid of the prices of the primes. Wild french rumors see the RF 600mm @ 14599€ in Germany, the 800mm near 16599... This would be a little bit to much for my wallet.

Many companies use Price Skimming. Price Skimming Definition (investopedia.com)

 

[EOS 4 Life]

I just want a full frame camera that shoots 4K 10bit 4:2:2 and 45MP stills in a weather sealed body....oh wait, I have the R5 already. Haha. Jokes aside, the next camera I would be excited about would bee a full frame variant of the C70. Full frame DGO would be the bee's knees.

Canon said they could not get decent battery life with full-frame DGO which is why it was left out of C500.
ARRI Alexa LF and MINI LF get terrible battery life.

 

[dolina]

Many companies use Price Skimming. Price Skimming Definition (investopedia.com)

Canon does that. As early as 2003 and as late as 2015 Canon kept to MSRP for at least 6 months and then do a price cut.

Like with the R5 if I were to buy one I'd look around for one after April.

The price skimming tries to balance supply with demand. After half a year demand will soften from the first adopters.

Also waiting for 6 months allows the brand to correct any bugs that may manifest.

• 5Ds R had Error20
• 7D Mark II had AF issue with long lenses
• 800mm & 200mm had a AF motor issue that created a higher than normal operational noise
• With the R5 my guess would be that shutdown or overheating issue with recording at 8K?

 

[EOS 4 Life]

I doubt Canon has invested in 5 stills cameras, and 3 cine cameras. That's a big investment in both R&D and manufacturing lines in a shrinking economy and corona crisis. I'm sure there are 7D & 1DX replacements in the pipe, as well as an 8K cinema camera, but not 8 cameras in one year.

1DX III and C500 II were announced in 2019 but did not really arrive until 2020.
RP, R5, R6, C300 III, C70, T8i, 90D, and M50 II all came out in 2020.

 

[Andy Westwood]

Great news and exciting times ahead for the RF mount, however not a whisper of any new M Mount bodies coming in 2021 what happened to the M50 MkII. Canon produced a promo video but no chatter since, not that it is much of an update, we all know that!

I would like to see some new M bodies in 2021 and not just the M50 MkII, fun little cameras that can be taken seriously. I never fail to take mine with me on holiday… Ah! Holidays, maybe not right now ☹

 

[JustUs7]

1DX III and C500 II were announced in 2019 but did not really arrive until 2020.
RP, R5, R6, C300 III, C70, T8i, 90D, and M50 II all came out in 2020.

We bought the RP in 2019 and the guy at the camera store had already had his for a couple months. Maybe depends on where you live?

They were still running the free adapter program at the time and $1,499 for the 24-240 kit. Free grip was no longer offered though.

 

[twoheadedboy]

Great news and exciting times ahead for the RF mount, however not a whisper of any new M Mount bodies coming in 2021 what happened to the M50 MkII. Canon produced a promo video but no chatter since, not that it is much of an update, we all know that!

I would like to see some new M bodies in 2021 and not just the M50 MkII, fun little cameras that can be taken seriously. I never fail to take mine with me on holiday… Ah! Holidays, maybe not right now ☹

Discussed here.

 

[FramerMCB]

Yes they do. But they do not have a R5a.

I think the likelihood of Canon making an R5a is ~2.5% or less.

 

[usern4cr]

I think the likelihood of Canon making an R5a is ~2.5% or less.

You may be right about that. But one can always hope. It sure would be a good fit with a 85mm f1.2L on it.

 

[SteveC]

How conservative is Canon?

Is it possible they'll do something in the alphabetic portion of the name to distinguish the APS-C camera(s)? Like call them the RC7, for example?

And is it possible the more entry level models could get a two digit model number?

 

[esglord]

Just for fun....

Model	Price	Res	Sensor	IBIS	Crop	GS	FPS	Mem Card	Slots	Max Video	Weather
R1	6999	45	FF	Y	17.5	Y	30	CFE	2	8K30	Best
R5S	4999	90	FF	Y	35	N	8	UHS	2	4K30	2nd Best
R5	3999	45	FF	Y	n/a	N	20	CFE, UHS	2	8K30	2nd Best
R7	2999	32	APS	Y	n/a	N	20	CFE, UHS	2	4K120	2nd Best
R6	2499	20	FF	Y	n/a	N	20	UHS	2	4K60	3rd Best
R MK II	1999	30	FF	N	n/a	N	8	UHS	1	4K60	4th Best
RP MK II	1199	26	FF	N	n/a	N	6	UHS	1	4K30 Crop	4th Best
R9	1199	32	APS	N	n/a	N	6	UHS	1	4K30 Crop	4th Best

View attachment 195056

GS = Global Shutter
Crop = I think these two bodies will have hardware crop...
FPS - Electronic Max, not Mehanical.
Weather = Weather Sealing

Bump up the weather proofing one notch on that R Mk II, give me DPAF II, and take my money please Canon

 

[slclick]

I just put mine up for sale with 168000! I thought it had 80.000... and still works great.
I want a R5 but probably getting a R6 because of the price.

I have to get the right camera body and not make my decision based upon price. So I wait and save....lol

 

[Maru]

I dont expect RPmkii and Rmkii before end of 2022.

 

[mdcmdcmdc]

Just for fun....

Model	Price	Res	Sensor	IBIS	Crop	GS	FPS	Mem Card	Slots	Max Video	Weather
R1	6999	45	FF	Y	17.5	Y	30	CFE	2	8K30	Best
R5S	4999	90	FF	Y	35	N	8	UHS	2	4K30	2nd Best
R5	3999	45	FF	Y	n/a	N	20	CFE, UHS	2	8K30	2nd Best
R7	2999	32	APS	Y	n/a	N	20	CFE, UHS	2	4K120	2nd Best
R6	2499	20	FF	Y	n/a	N	20	UHS	2	4K60	3rd Best
R MK II	1999	30	FF	N	n/a	N	8	UHS	1	4K60	4th Best
RP MK II	1199	26	FF	N	n/a	N	6	UHS	1	4K30 Crop	4th Best
R9	1199	32	APS	N	n/a	N	6	UHS	1	4K30 Crop	4th Best

View attachment 195056

GS = Global Shutter
Crop = I think these two bodies will have hardware crop...
FPS - Electronic Max, not Mehanical.
Weather = Weather Sealing

Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but I don't see the R7 at $3K. If you think of the R6 as the mirrorless continuation of the 6D line and the R7 as the mirrorless continuation of the 7D line, the 7D prices at introduction have always been less than the 6D's. I don't see $3K as competitive pricing for a pro-level APS-C body.