I've never been able to bring myself to support a kick starter project. I'm a confirmed skeptic and have little trust, even if its a big company like Canon.
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I've never been able to bring myself to support a kick starter project. I'm a confirmed skeptic and have little trust, even if its a big company like Canon.
File a chargeback/dispute with your credit card company. Each cc company has different ways of handling situations like this. For mine, they did an investigation where they contacted KS asking for information/for a reply. I think KS contacted the campaign for their response...essentially KS is the middle man for communication.
For one campaign, KS responded back on behalf of the campaign to my cc company saying it would ship in July. I responded back to my cc company and said its a lie and provided additional proof that they kept pushing and delaying shipment. From there, I don't know if the campaign decided not to respond back but my cc refunded me my money. It was about $200+.
The second campaign I filed a chargeback on, I don't think I heard anything at all and my cc just refunded me the money. This was only like ~$70? So maybe that was a factor? Don't know.
File a chargeback/dispute with your credit card company. Each cc company has different ways of handling situations like this. For mine, they did an investigation where they contacted KS asking for information/for a reply. I think KS contacted the campaign for their response...essentially KS is the middle man for communication.
For one campaign, KS responded back on behalf of the campaign to my cc company saying it would ship in July. I responded back to my cc company and said its a lie and provided additional proof that they kept pushing and delaying shipment. From there, I don't know if the campaign decided not to respond back but my cc refunded me my money. It was about $200+.
The second campaign I filed a chargeback on, I don't think I heard anything at all and my cc just refunded me the money. This was only like ~$70? So maybe that was a factor? Don't know.
Because they can build to order. They only invest on pre-design. No big investment, the cash is already here when they launch the industrialization and other things like packaging, which cost a lot. Other gain is you allready know how many piece to build. No inventory or unsold pieces.I don't understand why they don't have their own inhouse platform for new products, it wouldn't be hard.
"To lose one parent, Mr. Worthing, may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness." ― Oscar Wilde, The Importance of Being Earnest. He would probably write the same about two failed attempts on Kickstarter.File a chargeback/dispute with your credit card company. Each cc company has different ways of handling situations like this. For mine, they did an investigation where they contacted KS asking for information/for a reply. I think KS contacted the campaign for their response...essentially KS is the middle man for communication.
For one campaign, KS responded back on behalf of the campaign to my cc company saying it would ship in July. I responded back to my cc company and said its a lie and provided additional proof that they kept pushing and delaying shipment. From there, I don't know if the campaign decided not to respond back but my cc refunded me my money. It was about $200+.
The second campaign I filed a chargeback on, I don't think I heard anything at all and my cc just refunded me the money. This was only like ~$70? So maybe that was a factor? Don't know.
Because they can build to order. They only invest on pre-design. No big investment, the cash is already here when they launch the industrialization and other things like packaging, which cost a lot. Other gain is you allready know how many piece to build. No inventory or unsold pieces.
KS is part of the business model. For us it's not a proof of trust, but it is for investors. This is the other use of KS for startup leaders, to show their results in number of customers, sales, turnovers per product etc.What I mean is they could easily and cost-effectively build their own crowdfunding tech or use a Shopify addon, yet they stick with Kickstarter.
KS is part of the business model. For us it's not a proof of trust, but it is for investors. This is the other use of KS for startup leaders, to show their results in number of customers, sales, turnovers per product etc.
To take the exemple of peak design, as long as they do not receive sufficient financing offers (I would say 10 or 20M to invest into a facility and a commercial system for exemple), it's normal to continue the KS business model that cost nearly nothing and ensure reliable incomes.
We all make mistatkes, but please notice that numerous people (like me) said in the thread of your original post that THIS WAS A SCAM. That the 'product' they were offering wasn't legitimate, and that this was really obvious (and when on to detail why).
My post started with: " SCAM SCAM SCAM, and I can't believe both CR & CN have fallen for it. "
Mr CR, you have an unusual opportunity to crowd source product wisdom, please consider a model where you could use this moving forward.
I would suggest greater transparency and disclosure so that potential investors know you have a personal stake in such recommendations.
So you're one of those people who likes to pile on and kick a person when he's being honest and freely owning up to a mistake? I really don't understand why you as a guest feel you're entitled to be rude to the host of this site.Canon Rumors and they idiocy = shameful!
This is an embarrassment.
Likewise, I even contact them to make sure it would work with my R. They assumed I was buying it when my question was answeredDisappointing - I was VERY close to backing this myself but held off, not due to suspicions but just because I was saving for another purchase. I thought the design looked cool though - maybe someone reputable could pick up on the idea, as I thought they had some cool concepts incorporated into the proposed product. Sorry folks may lose their hard earned cash, makes it that much harder for the reputable Kickstarter types in the future too no doubt.
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Thank you so much! Danny Keep it up! Hope you enjoy the X-TRA Best, Arthur |
The design looked like a scam, so I doubt anyone reputable would repeat it.I thought the design looked cool though - maybe someone reputable could pick up on the idea,
A lot of people have asked the same thing but they've built a following on KS. Its their marketing platform in a way.Well, Peak Design is never going to rip you off, although at this point, I don't understand why they don't have their own inhouse platform for new products, it wouldn't be hard.