Canon will announce the RF 16mm f/2.8 and RF 100-400mm next

Billybob

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The non L 100-400 seems to replace EF-s 55-250mm for RP and the new cheap FF model.
How does a full-frame lens replace a crop-sensor lens, especially when the wide ends are so disparate? I'd imagine that the new 100-400 is probably more of a replacement for a full-frame 70-300 than the EF-s lens. And even then, I'm not sure that I'd be completely happy with losing 30mm on the wide end in exchange for an additional 100mm on the long end.
 
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That’s unfortunate. I ordered mine on 8/15 and it was delivered 8/25. Lucky timing on Amazon (they show In Stock Soon when Canon notifies them to expect a shipment). Next time you see a stock notice pop up here or on CPW, check Amazon and Best Buy. For the last 100-500 bolus in mid-August, B&H didn’t get enough to fill their preorders, but Best Buy had them in stock for a few days.
ohhh, have you used the lens much? What kind of dog do you have btw? Is he photogenic?
 
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It would be nice if Canon began shipping some of these RF lenses. Most of them are on back order and I've been waiting for weeks to receive my RF 100 f2.8 Macro

Once they have to wait for parts from different suppliers, not much they can do. Might as well design new lenses.
 
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How does a full-frame lens replace a crop-sensor lens, especially when the wide ends are so disparate? I'd imagine that the new 100-400 is probably more of a replacement for a full-frame 70-300 than the EF-s lens. And even then, I'm not sure that I'd be completely happy with losing 30mm on the wide end in exchange for an additional 100mm on the long end.
EF-S lens: 55-250mm = 88-400mm equivalent after 1.6x crop
RF lens: 100-400mm

I would imagine a 70-300mm is pretty far down on the RF lens roadmap pecking order.
 
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I'll be very interested in how the 100-400 ends up looking and costing. Right now, I'm in need of a lightweight telephoto for walks around the lake with my dog. I'm moving on from the brilliant 55-250 I adapt to my M6 Mark II. Not expecting a miracle here, but I would love to see just how much this ends up costing and how big it is.

The 16mm sounds very interesting - especially if it's a pancake - how cool would that be?!
 
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... I’m not sure at this time if the 16mm f/2.8 will be a pancake lens, as I continue to receive that question a lot.
I've never felt the need for a 16 mm pancake for a FF body. UWA is something I still have to learn to use well.
But if it's really a pancake this would be very interesting on a travel FF R body... :unsure:
 
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How does a full-frame lens replace a crop-sensor lens, especially when the wide ends are so disparate? I'd imagine that the new 100-400 is probably more of a replacement for a full-frame 70-300 than the EF-s lens. And even then, I'm not sure that I'd be completely happy with losing 30mm on the wide end in exchange for an additional 100mm on the long end.
It replaces when there is no RF APSC camera.
And Rebel cameras users need to move to FF RF camera.

So the guy with a T7i + Ef-s 55-250mm, can move to RP (or the cheap rumored FF) + RF 100-400.
 
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How does a full-frame lens replace a crop-sensor lens, especially when the wide ends are so disparate? I'd imagine that the new 100-400 is probably more of a replacement for a full-frame 70-300 than the EF-s lens. And even then, I'm not sure that I'd be completely happy with losing 30mm on the wide end in exchange for an additional 100mm on the long end.
Agree that this 100-400 is likely the RF ‘replacement’ for the EF 70-300 IS non-L.

I have the EF 70-300L, and I like it for the convenience of its compact length. Still, 100-400mm is a good range. From a marketing standpoint, this will sit nicely in between the 70-200 and 100-500 L-series offerings, and thus could be seen as an ‘affordable’ version of those aimed at EOS RP owners or those who want a telezoom for infrequent use.

Although I use my 70-200/2.8 throughout its range, with longer telezooms like the 70-300L or 100-400L, I usually find myself at the long end of the range (which is why I replaced the latter with a 600/4 II).
 
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Agree that this 100-400 is likely the RF ‘replacement’ for the EF 70-300 IS non-L.

I have the EF 70-300L, and I like it for the convenience of its compact length. Still, 100-400mm is a good range. From a marketing standpoint, this will sit nicely in between the 70-200 and 100-500 L-series offerings, and thus could be seen as an ‘affordable’ version of those aimed at EOS RP owners or those who want a telezoom for infrequent use.

Although I use my 70-200/2.8 throughout its range, with longer telezooms like the 70-300L or 100-400L, I usually find myself at the long end of the range (which is why I replaced the latter with a 600/4 II).
That make sense. I use my 100-500 mostly at 500 until a bird flies directly at me, or I get very close to a perched bird. Unfortunately, the 600mm lens is just a touch out of reach (pun intended) for me. When I can, I much prefer the 70-200 (a 2.8 lens is hard to beat), so the new 100-400 is not for me. However, if the 70-200 is too dear for someone looking for a compact telezoom, I definitely see the RF 100-400 substituting for both the old 70-300 and 100-400 lenses. Canon will sell bucketloads of the lens (my opinion).
 
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That’s unfortunate. I ordered mine on 8/15 and it was delivered 8/25. Lucky timing on Amazon (they show In Stock Soon when Canon notifies them to expect a shipment). Next time you see a stock notice pop up here or on CPW, check Amazon and Best Buy. For the last 100-500 bolus in mid-August, B&H didn’t get enough to fill their preorders, but Best Buy had them in stock for a few days.

+1 to Best Buy. They pop into stock every month or so, and sell out in about a day. But because Best Buy doesn't do preorders, there's no months-long backlog. I literally had a tab open for 3 weeks and just refreshed twice a day.
 
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The 100-500 pretty much has a 100-400 bulit in ;)
Could it be a 100-400/4 or what's the point?
The 100-500 is a $2700 L-series lens. The RF 100-400 will be a non-L lens – that's the point. The analogy is the RF 600/4L at $13K vs. the RF 600/11 non-L at $700. The differential between the 100-500L and the 100-400 won't be that large, but the idea holds – possibly a slower aperture, definitely lower build quality, optically good instead of great, and much cheaper.
 
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RF 16mm F2.8mm is an instant buy, if…
- same size, built quality as 35mm F1.8
- control ring (a must)
- IS

I’ll preorder it seconds after the annoucement


I sold my EF 16-35mm F4 in order to get the RF 14-35mm F4. After canon revealed the price for the RF Lense I cancelled this plan immediately…
Now, a RF 16mm F2.8 sounds like an intriguing option to replace my UWA. It’ll be lighter than a zoom and therefore it’ll be great for traveling :) I just crop for the missing 17-23mm (I do own the 24-105mm so I’m covered from there on)
 
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