What’s next from Canon?

[Canon Rumors]

After some bigger announcements, we like to remind everyone what we know is coming next. There’s not a lot of new information here, but it’s good to put it in one place. Although we haven’t been very successful in a while in regards to when things will arrive, we have been pretty good regarding what

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[m4ndr4ke]

Ooooooh boy, I’ve been waiting for a R6 like that for years

Also waiting for a fast 28mm (f/1.8 would do it).

 

[Maximilian]

As I posted in the other thread about a potential R6 Mk III:

I cannot imagine the need/reason/etc. for that (as a R6 Mk II user).
But if there is some real big feature bang I could understand that.

I would much more see space for a FF vlogger body without EVF and small size.
Someone (@koenkooi ?) mentioned the idea of a FF M6 II with RF mount. Why not?

A R5 Mk II with new AF features would be really impressing.
I hope that the rumored "cooling features" for the housing will not make it bigger.

As for the lenses:
Great that some "normal" L primes come around and not only those supper dupper big and heavy and super expensive f/1.2 ones.
T+S would be welcome by some as well.

We'll see...

 

[koenkooi]

I'm still waiting for the RF 200mm f/4L Macro IS USM to get announced

 

[Maximilian]

... I’ve been waiting for a R6 like that for years ...

What "like that" do you mean and miss at the current Mk II?

 

[koenkooi]

As I posted in the other thread about a potential R6 Mk III:

I cannot imagine the need/reason/etc. for that (as a R6 Mk II user).
But if there is some real big feature bang I could understand that.

I would much more see space for a FF vlogger body without EVF and small size.
Someone (@koenkooi ?) mentioned the idea of a FF M6 II with RF mount. Why not?

The Sony A7C and Panasonic S9 show that other manufacturers think there's a market, let's hope Canon thinks the same

If the R6III gets the R3 sensor and there will be an R8II with that sensor, I'm not sure if I still want an R5II, a faster sensor is starting to become more important than more megapixels for me. An R8II with the R5II sensor, now that would be something to behold (and get frustrated by the SD cards).

 

[Maximilian]

The Sony A7C and Panasonic S9 show that other manufacturers think there's a market, let's hope Canon thinks the same

If the R6III gets the R3 sensor and there will be an R8II with that sensor, I'm not sure if I still want an R5II, a faster sensor is starting to become more important than more megapixels for me. An R8II with the R5II sensor, now that would be something to behold (and get frustrated by the SD cards).

I suppose that we agree on a A7C-type R FF body.

About the "faster" sensor:
I haven't found any limitations yet and have no need for a "faster" sensor. IQ and ISO of the R6 MkII sensor seem to be on par or even slightly better compared to the R3.
I cannot imagine that the R6 Mk III would gain much here, do you?

 

[Chig]

An R6 mark iii with the stacked sensor from the R3 and updated AF tracking algorithms would really appeal to me and hopefully would have at least one CF express type B slot (even better with dual, especially as CF express cards are as cheap or cheaper than the fastest SD cards)
I have the R6ii and I really like it but a stacked sensor would be enough of an improvement for me to upgrade as the rolling shutter is pretty frustrating at times.
24 MP is all I want especially as I have the RF200-800 zoom

 

[koenkooi]

I suppose that we agree on a A7C-type R FF body.

About the "faster" sensor:
I haven't found any limitations yet and have no need for a "faster" sensor. IQ and ISO of the R6 MkII sensor seem to be on par or even slightly better compared to the R3.
I cannot imagine that the R6 Mk III would gain much here, do you?

I don’t expect much difference in traditional IQ, I’d like less rolling shutter for things like birds and insects taking off and, most importantly: flash support for ES.

 

[SwissFrank]

Also waiting for a fast 28mm (f/1.8 would do it).

I've been shooting the Sigma 28/1.4 for a couple years and like it a lot. I had the Canon 35/1.4 MkI and the 24/1.4 from around 2000 (don't know if it was a MkI or the only one) and didn't use either that much: the 35mm was "too normal" for me while the 24mm was "too wide" whereas the 28mm simply was a good widish size. I haven't tested the actual hand-held sharpness out of laziness, in part, but also in part because I use it for photos I obviously can't get with the 14-35/4 or 24-105/4.

 

[m4ndr4ke]

What "like that" do you mean and miss at the current Mk II?

Stacked sensor, high frequency anti-flicker, flash with electronic shutter, minimal rolling shutter, and definitely killing the mechanical shutter. Using an already existing sensor is the easiest path to achieve that, so yeah, a R6 with R3’s sensor would do.

I've been shooting the Sigma 28/1.4 for a couple years and like it a lot. I had the Canon 35/1.4 MkI and the 24/1.4 from around 2000 (don't know if it was a MkI or the only one) and didn't use either that much: the 35mm was "too normal" for me while the 24mm was "too wide" whereas the 28mm simply was a good widish size. I haven't tested the actual hand-held sharpness out of laziness, in part, but also in part because I use it for photos I obviously can't get with the 14-35/4 or 24-105/4.

I owned the Sigma 28mm f/1.4 Art and I love that lens (it’s one of my favourite prime lenses ever), but I had a chance to get all the money it cost me and took it, so now I don’t own any fast 28mm. I knew how hard it would be to sell a 28mm, so getting 100% of the money back was the perfect opportunity.
I really want to move to RF glass, it’s been over three years using the adapters, I’ve had enough.

 

[Emyr Evans]

I'm still waiting for the RF 200mm f/4L Macro IS USM to get announced

Now that would be nice. My 180 3.5 showing its age a bit now.

 

[FaolainWolf]

• IF Canon could have already introduced these cameras, they would have. They promised investors BIG unit sales and revenue boosts for Q2 2024 (ending this month) very likely anticipating that the R5ii would be delivering by now. It isn't. So that's why you see big sales / price cuts on just about everything in the Canon line. With the shareholders, Canon is in a bit of a bind. The sales and price reductions might temporarily boost unit numbers and revenues, but per-unit profits are going to plummet.
• The R3-sensored R6iii makes sense. Otherwise, the "unnamed" 24MP camera would make what? EIGHT 24MP cameras in Canon's lineup (including the 26MP RP)? And if the R1 is really going to be 24MP, that's NINE 24MP cameras out of ten full frame bodies. No other manufacturer loves 24MP (or similar) as much as Canon does, but . . . you can get too much of a good thing. Only the R5 in Canon's lineup offers more than 26MP.
• I'm looking forward to improved RF zoom and Big White lenses. The current lineup are AMAZING lenses on a 24MP sensor. With the exception of the RF 100-500mm, on an R5 or R7 they're a tad soft at the long end. Even the Big Whites are softer on high res sensors than the 100-500. (Is this why Canon seems so focused on 24MP across the lineup? Is this why the R1 is rumored to be 24MP?)
• And . . . what about the occasionally-rumored switchable 1x/1.4x/2x extender?

 

[FaolainWolf]

Now that would be nice. My 180 3.5 showing its age a bit now.

I'm still waiting for the RF 200mm f/4L Macro IS USM to get announced

Absolutely. Give it at least 2:1 mag ratio and take my money.

 

[dougsv]

Even the Big Whites are softer on high res sensors than the 100-500.

Can you provide some source on that?

 

[patrickvisuals]

Ok, the I‘ll have to pull the trigger and get the R3.

 

[FaolainWolf]

Can you provide some source on that?

Personal experience. The Big Whites, with their apertures, have huge advantages, but the 100-500 beats them slightly on resolution.

 

[Besisika]

I wish the triple base ISO to come down to lower tier cameras, at least to the C70. Only a wishful thinking?

 

[rameshk]

"We do wonder how similar the image sensors in the EOS R1 and the Cinema EOS C400 are going to be"
@Richard. Are you telling us that c400 has quadpixel sensor like R1 (as per your claim earlier) ? From what we know it is only Dual pixel. Does it mean R1 will not have quadpixel sensor?

 

[Loswr]

Personal experience. The Big Whites, with their apertures, have huge advantages, but the 100-500 beats them slightly on resolution.

I can tell you that my EF 600/4 II easily outresolves my RF 100-500.