5x is barely usable hand held if you use flash. Finding the subject and placing the non existent DoF can be tricky.
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scalesusa said:You really believe that you can use a MP-E 65 at full magnification hand held???
revup67 said:That's pretty cool you were able to hand hold the MP-E 65 @ 5x. Someone else in this thread said it could not be done. What F-stop did you use and I am assuming the MT 24EX flash was connected -thanks again
revup67 said:it appears with certainty that a macro rail is essential especially if focus stacking or no flash is being used
revup67 said:Did you say you had acquired a rail? someone mentioned the really right stuff rail but geez after blowing $1600 who wants to spend another 6 bills on the rail when those $50 china rails apparently work well according to to the reviews I've read..open to any thoughts?
Good point - I have pushed the lens into branches, flower parts, etc., and definitely recommend a UV filter. I have a B+W MRC UV on there (as on all my lenses). However, the filter prevents you from mounting the MT-24EX to the groove on the front of the lens. My solution is to screw a Macrolite Adapter 58C onto the front threads of the filter.
revup67 said:Interesting on the filter. I was able to put the MT 24EX on the MP-E 65 and then screw the UV on the macro lite. I wound up getting the 58C but don't know if there is a need a this point. Anyone have any ideas how else I can use the 58C when the UV screws on to the lens or the flash after its on the lens. Don't get its purpose (the 58C)
revup67 said:Neuroanatomist: I had a hunch you were going to say all of that. And follow each of your points / reasons for the 58C and 67C though one question remains to be answered: with the 67C stepping down to the 58mm Macro 24 EX Flash..any vignetting or other issues that might occur while stepping down? As I've got the 100mm IS USM L 2.8 and don't see much need for a flash (at least at this point) unless you feel its imperative.
revup67 said:Have you tried using Hi Speed Flash sync with the 24EX? or when you shoot are you in manual mode mostly ?
revup67 said:I am thinking of putting the camera (7D) in AI Servo or AI Focus full time this should help mitigate that moving subject in the wind syndrome
revup67 said:Great piece of information. I never saw that blip on AI Servo for Macro. There's no listing in the 7D LCD with respect to a name called Macro Ai Servo (I have 100mm on now with Ai Servo in place) but I would assume if you are in AF with AI servo on, it just kicks in - there's no menu listing per say. for some reason I can get in closer to the subject in Manual then with AF spot metering. The lens can't focus closer then say about 4 or 5 or inches in AF (I forget what the min. focus distance is)
Correct on the trade off 1.6 with the APS-C vs. FF
PS - if you recall where you read that info please send it along - thanks for the help. You def. know your stuff