Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM coming May 9, 2019

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Update We’re told that the Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM will be officially announced and be available for preorder on May 9, 2019 (in North America), the global release will be at the same time.
According to Nokishita, the Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L USM will be the first of the six new unreleased RF mount lenses. There was no word whether or not the DS (Defocus Smoothing) version of the RF 85mm f/1.2L would also be coming at the same time.
Canon RF lenses to come:

RF 85mm f/1.2L USM (May 2019)
RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS
RF 15-35mm f/2.8L IS USM
RF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS USM
RF 24-240mm f/4-6.3 IS USM
RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM
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transpo1

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The 85mm focal length is a big deal so that's good prioritizing from Canon if true. The 24-240 will make a great walk around lens if the quality is there. I just hope that thing has a zoom lock on it ;)
 
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Viggo

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I realized it would be too expensive for me now, unfortunately, so I bought a barley used 135 instead. And the day after this news comes along to rub it in, spiffing ...
 
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SwissFrank

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RF 85mm f/1.2L USM (May 2019)
RF 85mm f/1.2L USM DS
RF 15-35mm f/2.8L IS USM
RF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS USM
RF 24-240mm f/4-6.3 IS USM
RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM
I've decided to go for f/4 trinity zooms combined with big fat primes. I'm dying to see pix of the DS in action and probably will get one of those two 85s. Otherwise these six lenses will probably be good for sales but I don't think personally I'll be biting.
 

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The 24-240 will make a great walk around lens if the quality is there. I just hope that thing has a zoom lock on it ;)
Agreed. The RF 24-105/4L IS has one, but I don’t see a need for it (yet). That may not be the case with the non-L construction for the 24-240, particularly if it’s a ‘double-barrel’ extension like the EF-S 18-200 or the old EF 28-200.
 
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Rivermist

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I hope the list is not reflecting the order in which the lenses will be released, as I am primarily interested in the 70-200 L and would love to have it for a trip in late August. Also no indication of an RF Extender 1.4x or 2x, which would complement that lens well.
 
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yinzer

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I hope the list is not reflecting the order in which the lenses will be released, as I am primarily interested in the 70-200 L and would love to have it for a trip in late August. Also no indication of an RF Extender 1.4x or 2x, which would complement that lens well.
I would love to have that 70-200 to use this summer. I need it! :D

Also, don't worry about the order of that list. It's just primes and zooms in numerical order.
 

degos

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ENG1: "I therefore propose we concentrate on a trinity of 1.8 IS mid-tier lenses: 50mm, 85mm and 110mm. And to compete with Nikon for the wildlife / airshow market, a 200-500mm 5.6 IS with..."
EXEC: "Nah, screw that. Just clone some more EF L lenses and mark the price up. "
ENG2: "What about my idea for a $9000 8-12mm 1.2 L ? "
EXEC: "Genius! You're promoted!"
 

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Also no indication of an RF Extender 1.4x or 2x, which would complement that lens well.
I don't think they'll do extenders for RF. If you want an extender you'll probably need to stick to EF lenses.

Why? because the EF lenses that use the Canon extenders all need to have that gap at the back for the extender to fit into. The whole benefit of the RF lenses is their compact nature, so that is ruined if you have to design the lens around having a gap for an extender.

There are teleconverter designs for EF that will work on any lens as they don't protrude into the lens, but generally they're not very good optically.

I believe that instead of teleconverters you'll be encouraged to upgrade to a body with a higher pixel count and use cropping.

Maybe in the long term they'll replace the big whites with RF versions, but that will only happen once they stop selling EF bodies, which won't be for a while yet. Then they'll probably do extenders for those, but I think the'll be limited to the primes and zooms such as the 100-400 and the 70-200 won't support them. It's also equally possible that the RF versions of the big whites, when they come, have built-in teleconverters like the 200-400 EF
 

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There are teleconverter designs for EF that will work on any lens as they don't protrude into the lens, but generally they're not very good optically.
On second thoughts, because the RF mount is so much closer to the sensor than EF, perhaps it's going to be easier optically to do a teleconverter that would work with all RF lenses. Let's hope so!
 

Rivermist

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ENG1: "I therefore propose we concentrate on a trinity of 1.8 IS mid-tier lenses: 50mm, 85mm and 110mm. And to compete with Nikon for the wildlife / airshow market, a 200-500mm 5.6 IS with..."
EXEC: "Nah, screw that. Just clone some more EF L lenses and mark the price up. "
ENG2: "What about my idea for a $9000 8-12mm 1.2 L ? "
EXEC: "Genius! You're promoted!"
One could get that impression indeed, Canon seems to be working hard at the message that the RF mount is the foundation for lens designs we have never seen before, price not seeming to be the big issues (for them...). Case in point (so far) the 28-70 f:2 zoom. Horrendously expensive until you think of it as replacing your L primes (24 1.4 at a stretch, 35 1.4, 50 1.2 and close to the 85 1.2 .or 1.4) and offering flexibility with fewer lens changes. I had an early and unpleasant experience with the RP, getting some spots on the sensor during a lens change in a crowd. Not noticeable until I got home, and some long hours removing the blemishes from the images. Do we have to re-think our traditional lens collection premises with RF? Maybe.
 
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SwissFrank

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I don't think they'll do extenders for RF. If you want an extender you'll probably need to stick to EF lenses.

Why? because the EF lenses that use the Canon extenders all need to have that gap at the back for the extender to fit into. The whole benefit of the RF lenses is their compact nature, so that is ruined if you have to design the lens around having a gap for an extender.
OK, say that "gap in the back" is 25mm. That means that to allow a TC, the EF lens needs 44mm film-to-flange distance plus 25mm = 69mm.

It's possible that the RF, with a 20mm film-to-flang disance, would be happy with 20mm + 25mm = 45mm. IF shorter film-rear element distance helps with telephotos, then the RF would still have an advantage.

On the other hand, even if the distance isn't crucial, I imagine they'll come out with RF versions of telephotos anyways. Even if it's not optically superior, simply being able to work without an adapter will appeal, on grounds of simplicity, reliability. Remember, the point of the EF mount was autofocus, yet Canon was happy to make some manual-focus-only lenses (the TS series) that couldn't take advantage of "the whole benefit of EF lenses." Canon didn't say, manual focus so might as well only release with the FD mount...
 

proutprout

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That’s going to be an amazing 3k lense to put on your RP ! Or maybe canon will come with a cheaper new model the « RPC » (really poor camera)to put even more expensive lenses ! How about a 9k lense on a 400Usd camera next time ! Genius strategy
 

Rivermist

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That’s going to be an amazing 3k lense to put on your RP ! Or maybe canon will come with a cheaper new model the « RPC » (really poor camera)to put even more expensive lenses ! How about a 9k lense on a 400Usd camera next time ! Genius strategy
Not really the idea, I got the RP as a second body replacing an old 6D ( with my 5DIII being the main body for now) to "get y feet wet" with mirrorless and RF lenses. For the full mirrorless spending, I am waiting for the pro R camera with in-body IS which would make this all come together. Having said that, I remain firmly in the belief that pictures are made by the lens, with the sensors nowadays all being at least very good and going too superb. My first digital body was the 2004 Rebel (6.3MP if I recall well), soon after that I purchased a 70-200 f:2.8 L IS and it made amazing pictures. I kept that lens until last year, through 40D, 7D, 5D mk1 and now 5D mk3, the pictures gained in dynamics, the cameras were faster and AF a vast improvement, but the prints still looked similar with the slight softness ideal for portraits and the amazing bokeh.
 

mk0x55

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No doubt it's going to be a great piece of glass. But will it beat the Milvus 1.4/85 (not counting the lack of AF)? :)
(My bet is that the DS is going to beat it on bokeh; and both might do it the optical performance wide-open.)
 
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Bob Howland

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So Canon continues the mismatch between the lenses being offered and the bodies being offered. Where is the 24-240 lens or 5d level body?
 
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