Tokina Officially Announces the Opera 50mm f/1.4 FF

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<strong>FEBRUARY 28, 2018</strong> – Kenko Tokina Co., Ltd. is proud to announce the new Tokina opera 50mm F1.4 FF , a premium Full Frame lens for high-end DSLR cameras.</p>
<p><strong>Overview

</strong>With the debut of opera 50mm F1.4 FF we are launching a new series of next generation premium full-frame lenses for high-end DSLR cameras called “opera” series.</p>
<p>Opera series is designed to perfectly match recent high-spec full-frame DSLR cameras, which keep requiring high quality optics to be used with. In addition to originally high-valued Tokina AT-X series, this new opera series is positioned as top premium series of full-frame size lenses and will be further expanded with other lenses of related specifications and performance.</p>
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<p>In modern society the word “opera” is commonly used to express general genres of stage art. In Italian it means work or work of art. As an omitted art genre definition opera comes from “opera musicale” that means a piece of music work. In Latin opera comes from “opus” and in contemporary language “magnum opus”, “opera magna” still has a meaning of “great literary, artistic or intellectual work”. We chose the name “opera” for a new premium full-frame DSLR lens series thinking of a lens that will help photographer in creating real “work of art”.</p>
<p><strong>About the product

</strong>The debuting premium full-frame lens for high-end DSLR cameras in opera series is 50mm F1.4 FF (FF – Full-Frame). Designed for full-frame format DSLR cameras, opera 50mm F1.4 FF adopts a ring-shaped ultrasonic motor for autofocus drive module. Weather sealing prevents from dust and moisture to come inside the lens body. For the first time in Tokina line up Nikon mount model incorporates an electric diaphragm mechanism. The direction of the focus ring rotation fits the genuine Nikon and Canon lens.</p>
<p><strong>Mounts:</strong> Nikon F, Canon EF

<strong>Sensor size:</strong> full frame format

<strong>Sales release:</strong> summer 2018A prototype of Tokina opera 50mm F1.4 FF will be displayed at CP+2018 Kenko Tokina booth location: Exhibition Hall(1F), booth # G-57</p>
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slclick

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Now that we have read and digested the marketing speak in this press release I look forward to hearing meaningful reports and reviews on this possibly useful tool. Until then....Dustin? Bryan? Who will have a crack at this baby?
 

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slclick said:
Now that we have read and digested the marketing speak in this press release I look forward to hearing meaningful reports and reviews on this possibly useful tool. Until then....Dustin? Bryan? Who will have a crack at this baby?
Is that everybody now? Nikon, Sony, Sigma, Tamron, Zeiss Milvus, Tokina... all 35mm lens manufacturers except Canon have a modern and reasonably priced 50mm/1.4 younger than models I shoot.
 

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tianxiaozhang said:
Is that everybody now? Nikon, Sony, Sigma, Tamron, Zeiss Milvus, Tokina... all 35mm lens manufacturers except Canon have a modern and reasonably priced 50mm/1.4 younger than models I shoot.
+1. Good burn.

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Now that Tamron (G2) and Sigma (Art) are producing pro quality lenses, Tokina is finally going to try it (Opera). My experience with Tokina years and years ago is their lenses are not sharp. Even their own ads the pictures don't look that sharp. It will be interesting to see what they do here, but based on their track record I am not holding my breath.
 

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I now immediately think of ahsanford any time I see a new 50mm lens release. The universe has never trolled one person so well.
My heart is with a small (but modern) double gauss offering -- I don't want the big pickle jar retrofocus nonsense out there, and I don't want the crappy plastic fantastic f/1.8 STM.

I haven't looked at the optical designs of all these new autofocusing non-Canon 50s, but at first glance:

  • Sigma = definition of a pickle jar = no.
  • Tamron 45 = 2/3 the weight of the Sigma, but still largely a pickle jar size-wise = I get to carry a large lens around for... f/1.8? Meh.
  • Tokina = needs published specs, but it looks pretty big

Eventually, I'll get weak and just grab a 50L and live with it's non-flat field, external focusing and flaky AF wider than f/2. But it would just be so easy to modernize the 50 f/1.4 in an internally focusing design and please the world with a lovely little $499 50 f/1.4 USM II.

- A
 

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Does anyone have experience here with Tokina AF? Is it slow/fast, accurate or Sigma?
 

NancyP

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What ahsanford said - Where's our new 50 with AF (and IS would be nice, too), Canon?

More specs, please...
The Sigma is a heavy beast.
I have to say I like the Tokina name, as my OTHER hobby is listening to opera (Italian, French, German, other languages)
 

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What ahsanford said - Where's our new 50 with AF (and IS would be nice, too), Canon?

More specs, please...
The Sigma is a heavy beast.
I have to say I like the Tokina name, as my OTHER hobby is listening to opera (Italian, French, German, other languages)
It is such a shame after the 24/28 IS twins and then the 35 f/2 IS that the family didn't continue into 50/85 and then some. I'm very happy for all of the 85 1.4 IS owners out there, it's too bad there isn't a little brother for different budgets.
 

Mac Duderson

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Another sharp 50mm... ::)
I shoot mostly still weddings and commercial video and I don't care about more sharpness and bokeh. There are lots of options for that already.
If this Tokina was LESS sharp then the Sigma ART but had Image Stabalization I would have sold my Sigma and bought this Tokina in a sec!
I need a IS 50mm for video. Most lenses are sharp today. I would even buy the old Canon 50mm 1.4 if it had IS in it.
I feel like Tokina is just jumping on the hype but I think they would have done better to build a lens no one else has EVER made. 50mm 1.4 IS. SOLD! ;D 8) ;D 8)
 
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Mac Duderson said:
Another sharp 50mm... ::)
I shoot mostly still weddings and commercial video and I don't care about more sharpness and bokeh. There are lots of options for that already.
If this Tokina was LESS sharp then the Sigma ART but had Image Stabalization I would have sold my Sigma and bought this Tokina in a sec!
I need a IS 50mm for video. Most lenses are sharp today. I would even buy the old Canon 50mm 1.4 if it had IS in it.
I feel like Tokina is just jumping on the hype but I think they would have done better to build a lens no one else has EVER made. 50mm 1.4 IS. SOLD! ;D 8) ;D 8)
Tokina is not an expert in image stabilizer and canon does not seem to be in a hurry to make a 50mm IS. So at this point you can choose between Tamron 45mm VC (almost 50 anyway), and the excellent Canon 85mm IS.
 

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It is such a shame after the 24/28 IS twins and then the 35 f/2 IS that the family didn't continue into 50/85 and then some. I'm very happy for all of the 85 1.4 IS owners out there, it's too bad there isn't a little brother for different budgets.
That's because they are in different families. See chart (a bit dated in fairness), but you see that the 24/28/35 IS lenses were actually replacements/upgrades to an even older family of lenses than the 'middle' family we have been waiting for replacements for.

We have yet to see a replacement for the middle family 20 / fast 28 / 50 / 85 / 100 USM primes that came out from 1991-1995.

- A
 

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I can't wait for the fast 90s lenses to be updated. The 20, 28, and 50 sorely need it. The 85 and 100 still hold up well but I wouldn't say no to sealing and IS.

But yeah, any new Canon 50 would be nice at this point. This Tokina could well be great, but Tokina's AF in the past has been around that of Tamron—accurate, but noticeably slower than first-party—and they tend to drop the ball when it comes to transmission and vignetting. I'd hope that for the launch of a new premium line they would have sorted out those kinks, but if not, we could just be looking at what is essentially the Tamron 45mm without stabilisation.
 

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aceflibble said:
I can't wait for the fast 90s lenses to be updated. The 20, 28, and 50 sorely need it. The 85 and 100 still hold up well but I wouldn't say no to sealing and IS.
Curious: are any non-(L or DO) lenses weather sealed?

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ahsanford said:
slclick said:
It is such a shame after the 24/28 IS twins and then the 35 f/2 IS that the family didn't continue into 50/85 and then some. I'm very happy for all of the 85 1.4 IS owners out there, it's too bad there isn't a little brother for different budgets.
That's because they are in different families. See chart (a bit dated in fairness), but you see that the 24/28/35 IS lenses were actually replacements/upgrades to an even older family of lenses than the 'middle' family we have been waiting for replacements for.

We have yet to see a replacement for the middle family 20 / fast 28 / 50 / 85 / 100 USM primes that came out from 1991-1995.

- A
I´m hopeless.
Canon wont make an 85mm 1.8 IS like de 35mm and any 50mm IS will be L.
 

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vangelismm said:
ahsanford said:
slclick said:
It is such a shame after the 24/28 IS twins and then the 35 f/2 IS that the family didn't continue into 50/85 and then some. I'm very happy for all of the 85 1.4 IS owners out there, it's too bad there isn't a little brother for different budgets.
That's because they are in different families. See chart (a bit dated in fairness), but you see that the 24/28/35 IS lenses were actually replacements/upgrades to an even older family of lenses than the 'middle' family we have been waiting for replacements for.

We have yet to see a replacement for the middle family 20 / fast 28 / 50 / 85 / 100 USM primes that came out from 1991-1995.

- A
I´m hopeless.
Canon wont make an 85mm 1.8 IS like de 35mm and any 50mm IS will be L.
I'm aware of the different family thing, I owned a couple of those older ones. The 35 was like having a bee buzzing in your ear when trying to lock focus.
 

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So glad to see Tokina back in the game. My 11-16 f/2.8 is awesome. Even though it's technically a "crop" lens it works great as a 16mm f/2.8 on my full-frame 6D!
 

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ahsanford said:
We have yet to see a replacement for the middle family 20 / fast 28 / 50 / 85 / 100 USM primes that came out from 1991-1995.
If that replacement ever happens, it will not have IS, as the 24-28-35 had.

With 85mm f/1.4L IS USM & 100mm f/2.8 IS USM, Canon can't have cheaper 85mm f/1.8 IS USM & 100mm f/2 IS USM as well, especially in a shrinking market.