6D or 5DM3 need your help guys ( UPDATE : bought the 6D )

[BinAbul]

hello guys

i love taking still images for long time but only when i travel outside my country , i have old camera Digital Rebel XTi and i have nice images from it but time to upgrade ....

now after my kids grow up and they are not small babies and i think i will travel more and i will take photo of them more .

i will travel to Germany and Austria this August and i need new DSLR so which one i need to buy 6D or 5DM3 ?

i know 5DM3 it's been out for couples of years now and 6D last year , also here people don't like to buy used staff ( we don't have too many people like to shoot in my country )

shall i take 6D and wait for new 5DM4 or i go for 5DM3 ?


***UPDATE***

okay guys

Just bought the 6D with EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM ..... also 270ex ii and RC-6

is this flash good ? or shall i replace it with 320ex

the seller give good deal for these flashes ......

now i think i need good tripod and EF 135mm f/2L USM


thanks


***UPDATE***


update : 11/06/2014

 

[Sporgon]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

Sounds like the 6D was made for you. Get one or two good lenses with the cash you'll have left.

 

[Khalai]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

6D was made to be travelled with, that is, if you do not need extra ruggedness and top-class AF system Rather than shelling big money for 5D3, save some pennies for nice travel lens.

 

[BoneDoc]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

I have both. 6D is great for travel as well because of the built in GPS.

If you don't shoot with FAST primes at wide open (1.4 or so), then 6D is perfectly fine. I love shooting portrait at 14 and the 41 cross point AF makes that endeavor much easier .

 

[BinAbul]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

since last year i was onto shooting and photoshop staff to much i learned how to shoot manual not that perfect but still learning

i want to shoot landscape, people and buildings , I may use the camera for portrait shoot

and thanks guys for your feedback's

my brain is telling me to get the 6D and my heart telling me to get 5DM3

now guys i need some suggest to buy lens , tripods ...etc

when i bought my old dslr i get it with : EF-S 55-250 1:4-5.6 IS , I don't know in the link same mine or mine is older

then i bought : EFS 17-85 macro 0.35m/1.2ft Ultrasonic


so what shall i buy

 

[mustafaakarsu]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

since last year i was onto shooting and photoshop staff to much i learned how to shoot manual not that perfect but still learning

i want to shoot landscape, people and buildings , I may use the camera for portrait shoot

and thanks guys for your feedback's

my brain is telling me to get the 6D and my heart telling me to get 5DM3

now guys i need some suggest to buy lens , tripods ...etc

when i bought my old dslr i get it with : EF-S 55-250 1:4-5.6 IS , I don't know in the link same mine or mine is older

then i bought : EFS 17-85 macro 0.35m/1.2ft Ultrasonic


so what shall i buy

As they both are EF-S, they won't fit to 6D. You can start looking prices of both 24-70 lenses and 24-105.

 

[PhotographerJim]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

I have the 6D, there's a reason why they paired it with the 24-105mm, they make a great combination. Purchased as a kit, you can usually get a really good deal.

 

[COBRASoft]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

I went for a 5DIII for the super AF and other extras the camera body provides. Image quality will be almost the same (except moiré patterns). With a f/1.4 lens, 11 AF points is not enough for me when shooting at f/1.4.

As for lens... I bought a second hand 16-35 f/2.8 I for a good price. For landscapes and indoors it's very good IMHO. I also have the 24-105 which is very versatile if you want to carry only 1 lens with you.

although, since I have my Sigma 50mm f/1.4 ART, I hardly use my 24-105 .

 

[alexanderferdinand]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

If you dont Need a top notch AF System, just a good one: 6D.
If ist going to be more dynamic, or even bit of sports: 5D3.

Lenses are more important in my opinion, if you can afford it, the 24-70/2,8II is expensive AND delivers excellent IQ.
Or/and the 70-200/2,8IS II.

You will be satisfied.

 

[cid]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

I have both. 6D is great for travel as well because of the built in GPS.

If you don't shoot with FAST primes at wide open (1.4 or so), then 6D is perfectly fine. I love shooting portrait at 14 and the 41 cross point AF makes that endeavor much easier .

+1 I don't own 6D or 24-105, BUT I had opportunity to try 6D, and it's really excellent camera and 24-105 has some really nice coverage
there was only one ,main reason why I preferred 5DmkIII - autofocus system
and now very happy

if you won't shoot fast subjects, then go for 6D, it's smaller, lighter and performs really well

If you dont Need a top notch AF System, just a good one: 6D.
If ist going to be more dynamic, or even bit of sports: 5D3.

Lenses are more important in my opinion, if you can afford it, the 24-70/2,8II is expensive AND delivers excellent IQ.
Or/and the 70-200/2,8IS II.

You will be satisfied.

agreed, get some nice lens to this combo, one of these two, 70-200 f/2.8 IS II is bit heavy, but results are great...

and maybe some fast prime (sigma 35mm Art, 50L, or maybe sigma 50mm - if they can handle AF issues)

 

[dppaskewitz]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

I have the 6D and like it a lot. I use the GPS when traveling and enjoy knowing where my photos were taken. Buy an extra battery to be sure you don't run out of power during the day. (I generally use two in a grip and have never had a problem running out of battery even if I leave the GPS on all day).

I second the recommendation of getting the 24-105 with the camera as a kit. I'm sure it's not as sharp as the 24-70 II. But it's very versatile and pretty good. And relatively inexpensive.

Some have recommended the 70-200 f/2.8 L II. I don't have one. From everything I hear, I would love it. But, it's about the same size as my 100-400. A few years ago, I bought the 70-200 f/4 L IS just to have a smaller, lighter lens for travel. And, it's really very good. I also see good things on this forum about the 70-300 f/4-5.6 L IS as a travel lens.

The 24-105 will be wider than your 17 on a full frame camera. But either of the wide zooms would be a great addition for your travels (16-35 or 17-40, depending on budget).

And don't forget a tripod.

 

[jdramirez]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

6d... It doesn't sound like you need the fps or the auto focus performance of the 5d mkiii.

 

[BinAbul]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

man i just check one of our stores they have weird offer .... 6D with 24-105 cost $2,835 & 5DM3 only body $3000 .... they tell me summer sale will start next week


thanks a lot guys for all info i get today

Now i will go for 6D i will shoot some cars on street but i don't this i need the AF too much now , thanks again for clear that for me guys

for lens i need some help here

what shall i buy :

EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM ( i may get this by kit deal but if the store don't give me good deal i will go for body only coz 6D body cost now only $1950 )
or
EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM
or
EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM

can you tell me on order what to take

also you guys tell me about this one

EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM


do i need wide one also or this is okay


and can you tell me about good tripod for travel ? easy and good in same time

 

[Ruined]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

hello guys

i love taking still images for long time but only when i travel outside my country , i have old camera Digital Rebel XTi and i have nice images from it but time to upgrade ....

now after my kids grow up and they are not small babies and i think i will travel more and i will take photo of them more .

i will travel to Germany and Austria this August and i need new DSLR so which one i need to buy 6D or 5DM3 ?

i know 5DM3 it's been out for couples of years now and 6D last year , also here people don't like to buy used staff ( we don't have too many people like to shoot in my country )

shall i take 6D and wait for new 5DM4 or i go for 5DM3 ?

I would go with the 6D. I actually like the 6D better than the 5D3 since the 5D3 does not support interchangeable focus screens in the firmware; if you ever plan to use fast lenses the 5D3's lack of high precision screen will be a handicap in nailing focus. While the 5D3 does have superior autofocus, I am going to wait until 5D4 or 6D2 and hope one of them supports interchangeable focus screens like 6D... or I'll just buy 1DX!

 

[cid]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

for lens i need some help here

what shall i buy :

EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM ( i may get this by kit deal but if the store don't give me good deal i will go for body only coz 6D body cost now only $1950 )
or
EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM
or
EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM

can you tell me on order what to take

also you guys tell me about this one

EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM


do i need wide one also or this is okay


and can you tell me about good tripod for travel ? easy and good in same time

well I do own both 24-70mkII and 70-200mkII, what I have to say is I fell in love with 70-200mkII immediately after first few shots

but this depends on what you shoot ... portraits? landscapes? street?

all lenses mentioned in this thread are very nice, some exceptional, buy body and then visit some brick and mortar shop and try all of them, I can guarantee you will fall in love with some of them too

but in general
light zoom setup
canon 24-70 f/4 IS + 70-200 f/4 IS
prime setup
sigma 35A, canon 85 f/1.8, 100L/135L
heavy zoom setup
24-70mkII + 70-200mkII

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

For a all around use, the 6D with the 24-105mm L is great.
The other lenses mentioned are also wonderful, but for travel I'd take the 24-105 for its all around versatility.

You also might want to consider adding a 35mm f/2 IS for the indoor situations that have low lighting. Its a very good lens for a reasonable price.

 

[Ruined]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

since last year i was onto shooting and photoshop staff to much i learned how to shoot manual not that perfect but still learning

i want to shoot landscape, people and buildings , I may use the camera for portrait shoot

and thanks guys for your feedback's

my brain is telling me to get the 6D and my heart telling me to get 5DM3

now guys i need some suggest to buy lens , tripods ...etc

when i bought my old dslr i get it with : EF-S 55-250 1:4-5.6 IS , I don't know in the link same mine or mine is older

then i bought : EFS 17-85 macro 0.35m/1.2ft Ultrasonic


so what shall i buy

Getting a 6D and a 24-70 f/2.8L II (plus perhaps a 135L for tele) is far wiser than a 5D3 and a cheap lens IMO.

 

[BL]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

I actually like the 6D better than the 5D3 since the 5D3 does not support interchangeable focus screens in the firmware; if you ever plan to use fast lenses the 5D3's lack of high precision screen will be a handicap in nailing focus. While the 5D3 does have superior autofocus, I am going to wait until 5D4 or 6D2 and hope one of them supports interchangeable focus screens like 6D... or I'll just buy 1DX!

One of the first things I was going to replace was my focussing screen for this reason. But in actual practice, I found I didn't miss the high precision screen because I can nail f1.2 on outer cross type points all day long, with total accuracy.

Now if you are using Zeiss or other MF lenses, yes, you will absolutely need to replace the screen for any sort of viewfinder accuracy at apertures wider than f2.8!

 

[verysimplejason]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

6D + 24-105L if you really want to go FF. 6D is a perfect travel camera. Since you're not invested in any EF lenses yet, you can also have a look at mirrorless FF offering by Sony. They're smaller and lighter and comparable IQ.

 

[Ruined]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

I actually like the 6D better than the 5D3 since the 5D3 does not support interchangeable focus screens in the firmware; if you ever plan to use fast lenses the 5D3's lack of high precision screen will be a handicap in nailing focus. While the 5D3 does have superior autofocus, I am going to wait until 5D4 or 6D2 and hope one of them supports interchangeable focus screens like 6D... or I'll just buy 1DX!

One of the first things I was going to replace was my focussing screen for this reason. But in actual practice, I found I didn't miss the high precision screen because I can nail f1.2 on outer cross type points all day long, with total accuracy.

Now if you are using Zeiss or other MF lenses, yes, you will absolutely need to replace the screen for any sort of viewfinder accuracy at apertures wider than f2.8!

The thing is, when your DOF is so thin with the f/1.2 lenses, I have found even leaning back or forward a teeny bit will affect focus accuracy. Thus, if you don't have a high precision screen, you really don't know what you are going to get when you pull the trigger even if it focused accurately at first. I could not see owning a camera without a high precision screen if I am using f/1.4 or faster lenses...