Camera Store Trashes New G7X
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I was looking forward to possibly buying one of these but not now. Everything I have seen on it so far is a big letdown.
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I did not watch the whole thing. Whatever video camera used to film it was horrible, they need to fix that. it was changing apertures and the video kept getting bright and dark. This is the first hint that someone does not know what they are doing. After the flickering video, I lost interest.
I would be interested in a serious comparison at every focal length at 24mm, 35mm,50mm, 85mm, and 100mm. Wait, the RX100 does not do 85mm or 100mm, the most common portrait focal lengths. I settled on a G1X, so a G7X is not in my future in any event.
I would be interested in a serious comparison at every focal length at 24mm, 35mm,50mm, 85mm, and 100mm. Wait, the RX100 does not do 85mm or 100mm, the most common portrait focal lengths. I settled on a G1X, so a G7X is not in my future in any event.
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Tired of waiting for a good compact camera to join my Canon gear, I finally purchased the Sony a6000 for situations when I don't want to carry my 5D3 and couple of lenses.distant.star said:
EOS-M never lived up my expectations, specially at the auto focus sector. I wanted the EOS-M so I could use some of my EF lenses.
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Cameralabs has their full review up and the camera compared quite sell to the Sony RX100 MIII. The Canon focuses faster, has more blur in the photos, enjoys the ability to pull focus in videos and compares closely in optical quality beating out the Sony at 50mm, 70mm. He scores both 89 points. I'm looking forward to mine.
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I love the CameraStore's reviews - though being a local Calgarian - I am biased. I also think that the guys down at the store may be a bit biased too, based on Canon's latest treatment towards retail stores. Canon's latest price drops supposedly cut more into the brick and mortar stores margins than their own i.e. canon makes the same money and distributors take the hit.
Canon has also opened a demo store locally in Calgary. Kinda like an Applestore - except you can't buy product. I'm wondering if Canon is kicking around the idea of moving into retail market so they can grab the retail markup too so that's why they are not too concerned about ruffling some feathers with their distributors.
None the less, owning the MKIII I was initially disappointed that two months after I bought it, canon finally announced a smaller 1 inch compact. I went down to the local store to check out canon's new offering and was well - underwhelmed. I think the guys are right on Mark in the video - this was the camera Canon needed to respond to the RX 100 mk II. It seems Canon are lagging behind. Canonitis is a perfect characterization. The Review may have been a bit biased, but I feel the RX III is a much better camera even factoring the additional cost.
Canon has also opened a demo store locally in Calgary. Kinda like an Applestore - except you can't buy product. I'm wondering if Canon is kicking around the idea of moving into retail market so they can grab the retail markup too so that's why they are not too concerned about ruffling some feathers with their distributors.
None the less, owning the MKIII I was initially disappointed that two months after I bought it, canon finally announced a smaller 1 inch compact. I went down to the local store to check out canon's new offering and was well - underwhelmed. I think the guys are right on Mark in the video - this was the camera Canon needed to respond to the RX 100 mk II. It seems Canon are lagging behind. Canonitis is a perfect characterization. The Review may have been a bit biased, but I feel the RX III is a much better camera even factoring the additional cost.
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I am not in the market for one of these cameras but I think that the Panasonic LX100 may be the best option in that arena for an experienced photograper. It doesn't reach to 100mm but it has the Sony and definitely the Canon beat pretty much everywhere else...
I am an MFT fan along with my FF Canon, so perhaps I am a little biased. I use Oly's not Panny's...but the spec sheet on the LX100 is impressive all the way around, truly. Maybe someday canon will make a mirrorless camera, too?!
With the phones the camera market is so turned on its head theses days.
I went outside yesterday (I live at the beach) with my 5DIII to shoot som clouds for backgrounds, and I was sitting on a bench with my camera next to me and a woman said "oh look, he has a "real" camera! (We had a hurricane going by off the coast and the waves were spectacular and we had a lot of day trippers ALL of whom were taking pics with their phones...I REALLY a stood out with The Beast! LOL! )
That is where this whole thing is headed. Me..I have a crappy little "dumb" phone and have never insulted my art by creating a photograph with it. :-X
I am an MFT fan along with my FF Canon, so perhaps I am a little biased. I use Oly's not Panny's...but the spec sheet on the LX100 is impressive all the way around, truly. Maybe someday canon will make a mirrorless camera, too?!
With the phones the camera market is so turned on its head theses days.
I went outside yesterday (I live at the beach) with my 5DIII to shoot som clouds for backgrounds, and I was sitting on a bench with my camera next to me and a woman said "oh look, he has a "real" camera! (We had a hurricane going by off the coast and the waves were spectacular and we had a lot of day trippers ALL of whom were taking pics with their phones...I REALLY a stood out with The Beast! LOL! )
That is where this whole thing is headed. Me..I have a crappy little "dumb" phone and have never insulted my art by creating a photograph with it. :-X
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infared said:
But... but... but... but then you can't take selfies and post them online with captions that read, "Hey it’s me infrared... LOL... (little picture of a flippin’ whale) #YOLO".
[yes I've been watching We're The Millers]
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The last time I even considered buying a Canon P&S was in 2009. I was seriously considering buying a G11. I ended up going to a bunch of camera stores and trying all of the High end P&S. I came to the conclusion that Sony, Olympus and Fuji-film all built more feature pact and compelling cameras. This was mostly because the Canon was more expensive and lacking features the other cameras had. In my mind the only thing that the G11 had going for it was that it was a Canon and it had raw image support.
In the end I decided that none of the current P&S really me my needs. So I bought a Rebel and the lens I needed.
The video really just echos my perception of Canon P&S developed at that time.
If I was in the market for a P&S I would not even consider a Canon. Unless it was blowing away the competition in reviews.
In the end I decided that none of the current P&S really me my needs. So I bought a Rebel and the lens I needed.
The video really just echos my perception of Canon P&S developed at that time.
If I was in the market for a P&S I would not even consider a Canon. Unless it was blowing away the competition in reviews.
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Yeah, watched it, too...
Tragic, I really thought Canon would bring it here! But AF seems slow(er), lens worse, handling worse etc.
I don't like the Sony's feel though, so I will pull the trigger on the Panasonic LX100! It's amazing what this little beast can do! 4/3, 4K, EVF, manual controls, DFD AF etc.
Should serve for 95% of my purposes (although my DSLR is still better
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Tragic, I really thought Canon would bring it here! But AF seems slow(er), lens worse, handling worse etc.
I don't like the Sony's feel though, so I will pull the trigger on the Panasonic LX100! It's amazing what this little beast can do! 4/3, 4K, EVF, manual controls, DFD AF etc.
Should serve for 95% of my purposes (although my DSLR is still better
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tayassu said:
Not quite so simple to say the lens is worse. Based on the results that are coming in over at DPReview it looks like the Canon is sharper on the long end while the Sony is sharper at the wide end.
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Not quite so simple to say the lens is worse. Based on the results that are coming in over at DPReview it looks like the Canon is sharper on the long end while the Sony is sharper at the wide end.
Agreed, read the review at CameraLabs which states the same. It also states the G7X focuses faster than the Sony as well. The LX100 doesn't seem too amazing to me for $200 extra when it doesn't fit in my pocket and has to have a lens cap and it, like the Sony, has around 70mm reach which makes it less than ideal for portrait shots.
Agreed, read the review at CameraLabs which states the same. It also states the G7X focuses faster than the Sony as well. The LX100 doesn't seem too amazing to me for $200 extra when it doesn't fit in my pocket and has to have a lens cap and it, like the Sony, has around 70mm reach which makes it less than ideal for portrait shots.
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I have used the camera since friday. It is inconsistent in af accuracy. Most pictures are soft. When all hits then the pics are great but for a $700 convience camera it shoukd work better than that. I would like to consider the rx100 but do not like the short focal range and handling. I think the extra bulk and IQ would be better invested in the sony a6000 for the money. At least your carrying apsc sized sensor and hopefully the af can keep up.
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I bought the Camera on Friday too in Munich for my grandson. But the quality of the images are awful for 650€. If you raise the Iso >250 the images are not sharp and grainy. And the AF hunts for sharpness without using the flash if the thing you want to photograph is not very bright.
I was very disappointed and returned the Camera on the same day. Another G7X we tried out in the store one did not work better.
The shop assistent told me to buy an Sony 6000.
Added: The shop assistant told me that they got instructions for advertising the 7DII. One of these is to shoot outside, if a customer wants to try out the 7DII...
I was very disappointed and returned the Camera on the same day. Another G7X we tried out in the store one did not work better.
The shop assistent told me to buy an Sony 6000.
Added: The shop assistant told me that they got instructions for advertising the 7DII. One of these is to shoot outside, if a customer wants to try out the 7DII...
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