Camera Store Trashes New G7X

[MintChocs]

It's a camera aimed at non-professionals, hobbyists with a bit of money, people who recognise the brand. They probably crippled it to stop it competing with their basic DSLRs. The majority of buyers aren't going to try different brands, watch YouTube videos. They will still sell more than Sony especially when they drop the price.

 

[Maiaibing]

Wait, the RX100 does not do 85mm or 100mm, the most common portrait focal lengths.

RX100 focal length actually covers both 85mm and 100mm (as 35mm "equivalent")

 

[rs]

Wait, the RX100 does not do 85mm or 100mm, the most common portrait focal lengths.

X100 focal length actually covers both 85mm and 100mm (as 35mm "equivalent")

?? The X100 only covers the 35mm focal length equivalent.

If you're on about the RX100 range, then the mk I and mk II do go all the way up to 100mm equiv., at the expense of the wide end. However, the mk III gains the wide end and loses the long end.

 

[Maiaibing]

Wait, the RX100 does not do 85mm or 100mm, the most common portrait focal lengths.

X100 focal length actually covers both 85mm and 100mm (as 35mm "equivalent")

?? The X100 only covers the 35mm focal length equivalent.

If you're on about the RX100 range, then the mk I and mk II do go all the way up to 100mm equiv., at the expense of the wide end. However, the mk III gains the wide end and loses the long end.

I was but dropped the "R". How unfortunate that there is a "X"-model to confuse on top.

 

[TeT]

From the images I have seen, not Canon's best effort. IT does look soft compared to the G1X II for one. Also who knows if those are apple to apple shots... (same sharpness settings etc...)

The review could have picked a better camera to pair it against though. Not same focal ranges...

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Wait, the RX100 does not do 85mm or 100mm, the most common portrait focal lengths.

RX100 focal length actually covers both 85mm and 100mm (as 35mm "equivalent")

And which did they compare with the G7X, the MK I or the MK II? There are plenty of other cameras with a wide Zoom range, but the video is specifically about comparing the RX100 MK III. It Does not include portrait ranges.

Its just a situation where you can't really compare the two because they are not equivalent. If you want to take portraits, forget the RX100 MK III. You can compare common focal lengths, but the RX100 MK III is crippled.

 

[dstppy]

I'm confused; how can Canon fark up a point-and-shoot.

Is this actually shooting worse than the S1xx pocket cameras?

 

[golizw]

hi
I own the G7X since a week and I am excited. The comparison in Camera Store Trashes is not professional!
Sure the Sony is sharper in lowlight because of agressiv working sharpness. If you want (like me) you can go to P-mode and correct sharpness as well es shadows or kontrast even colour finetuning global.
I dont think anyone buys this camera as a P&S , shooting only in FullAuto-mode. If this "tester" of the G7X doesn´t know the knobs and menu-functions, he should give up his job. I have read the whole manual and have most of features prooved with 100% crops. Best results (to me) icontrast auto, shadow no, F 4.0 Sharp +1 or +2 and the focus with touch works immediatly.
Astonishing: the digiconverter works great especially with lowlight > crop of 100% (eq. 100mm opt) to crop of 50% (from eq. 100 mm opt + 2* dgital > 200mm) gives more details to the digital combination:
http://szene.digitalkamera.de/forums/t/240621.aspx

sorry, the post is in german. And i apologize for my bad english.
goli

 

[Mitch.Conner]

I assume it's better than my S95 at least?

 

[SoullessPolack]

Canonitis isn't even the right term, nor is it funny, nor does it even sound right even if the word's creater's assumption was correct.

-itis is a suffix denoting inflammation of [the whatever the root word is]. For example, hepatitis being inflammation of the liver or stomatitis being inflammation of the mouth. A much better suffix, that makes more sense, would be Canonosis, which would denote a condition or disease.

If you're going to use words you don't know, look them up. You look like a fool when intelligent people read what you've written. The worst part was, it was completely unnecessary as it wasn't even funny, and this is coming from a guy that laughs at almost anything!

 

[SoullessPolack]

Wait, the RX100 does not do 85mm or 100mm, the most common portrait focal lengths.

They've done studies of photographers to find the most common portrait focal lengths?! That's crazy hah! Who funded it? Do you happen to have a link to the source, I'd love to peruse it.

 

[weixing]

Hi,
Err... is it me or is the video keep rocking slightly?? I only manage to watch a bit as I start to feel a bit giddy after awhile... may be I was tired...

Have a nice day.

 

[josephandrews222]

I assume it's better than my S95 at least?

...my thoughts exactly.

The trouble is--the price will have to drop significantly for me to consider it in a serious way.

 

[fragilesi]

hi
I own the G7X since a week and I am excited. The comparison in Camera Store Trashes is not professional!
Sure the Sony is sharper in lowlight because of agressiv working sharpness. If you want (like me) you can go to P-mode and correct sharpness as well es shadows or kontrast even colour finetuning global.
I dont think anyone buys this camera as a P&S , shooting only in FullAuto-mode. If this "tester" of the G7X doesn´t know the knobs and menu-functions, he should give up his job. I have read the whole manual and have most of features prooved with 100% crops. Best results (to me) icontrast auto, shadow no, F 4.0 Sharp +1 or +2 and the focus with touch works immediatly.
Astonishing: the digiconverter works great especially with lowlight > crop of 100% (eq. 100mm opt) to crop of 50% (from eq. 100 mm opt + 2* dgital > 200mm) gives more details to the digital combination:
http://szene.digitalkamera.de/forums/t/240621.aspx

sorry, the post is in german. And i apologize for my bad english.
goli

Goli, thanks for bringing some well though out balance to the discussion! And please don't worry about your English which is good . . . I am willing to bet it is better than the German of 99%+ of the people on this forum .

 

[Mitch.Conner]

-itis is a suffix denoting inflammation of [the whatever the root word is]. For example, hepatitis being inflammation of the liver or stomatitis being inflammation of the mouth. A much better suffix, that makes more sense, would be Canonosis, which would denote a condition or disease.

Yes, you're correct about the proper suffixes, however I suspect others like myself knew this and still found it funny.

 

[hawkigrad]

I think a couple of things are going on. DP Review has this camera in their studio comparison tool and in looking at JPG's it's fairly easy to see the sharpening on the G7X is not as aggressive as the Sony. Comparing RAW the cameras look nearly identical.

As far as focusing the G7X comes set for Face AiAf focusing which looks for people first before switching to point autofocus. Cameralabs reviewed the camera with this turned off for a direct comparison to the Sony and found the Canon "proved quicker and more confident under almost all conditions" in regards to focusing. In continuous autofocusing they also noted "it was above average - and noticeably more successful than the Sony RX100 MIII. For video there is no matching the two since Canon can pull focus with touch screen.

 

[cliffwang]

I actually is more interested in a review of Sony RX100M3 vs Panasonic LX100. I would like to pick one of them for my wife. The LX100 has really good specs. However, I cannot tell which one is better from just specs.

 

[hawkigrad]

I actually is more interested in a review of Sony RX100M3 vs Panasonic LX100. I would like to pick one of them for my wife. The LX100 has really good specs. However, I cannot tell which one is better from just specs.

Better for what? Cameralabs scored the Sony and the Canon at 89 points each. The Canon is better for portraits with the longer lens whereas the Sony has electronic viewfinder but no touchscreen. The Panasonic will have better IQ and 4K video recording but won't fit in a normal pocket and has an external flash which must also be carried along with the lens cap. If you are going to get a camera that won't fit into a pocket for $900 why not just go APS-C and get the Sony A6000?

 

[transpo1]

"Canon needs to step up their release cycle." From a video spec perspective btwn these two cams, this is certainly true.

 

[powershot2012]

CameraLabs???? :-\ :-\ :-\

The post is about the CameraStore. LOL

I guess you didn't like the part about:

Canonitis
Noun/Latin Origin
- To never go the full step you really need to innovate and take over the market.

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Cameralabs has their full review up and the camera compared quite sell to the Sony RX100 MIII. The Canon focuses faster, has more blur in the photos, enjoys the ability to pull focus in videos and compares closely in optical quality beating out the Sony at 50mm, 70mm. He scores both 89 points. I'm looking forward to mine.
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