East Wind Photography said:
Eldar said:
East Wind Photography said:
The 5Ds is really a niche camera for a special purpose. Most of us are better off with another model.
I hear this all the time and it is just rubbish. The only issue you have with the 5DS/5DSR, compared to a 5DIII, or any other DSLR, is file size. Everything else is same same or better. Currently I only use my 1DX for high fps and low light. Everything else is now shot with the 5DSR, because it is That good and That versatile.
And for those who say they have never pushed more than 2 stops, I simply don't believe you, unless you live in a flat light environment all the time. When you lift shadow +100 in LR, you have lifted about 2-2.5 stops. How many have done that, plus some additional adjustments? I did not beleive I had ever gone as far as 3 stops, until I realized how much push shadow lifiting represent, I realize I have passed 4 stops numerous times. Not for the entire frame, but for areas. And for the record, I do read histograms and I do pay attention to exposure, so save the condesending "they don't know what thery're doing.." statements, because it might be that you get them in return.
Wow. I would not call the 5dsr versatile by any means. Low frame rate and limited in ISO. This has no real use in my bag. The removal of antialiasing has some merits and this is a good pilot model. Though not good for sports, not good for wildlife unless you are shooting birds on a stick. Perhaps it's most useful purpose is for landscapes on a tripod. Versatility is more than just what you can do with it in Lightroom.
I am more interested in where they take this on the 2nd and 3rd generation.
TBH i agree with what Eldar says. I mean it is almost identical to the 5DMKIII in every way in terms of spec, 1 less FPS and from what I've seen the noise comparison is almost indistinguishable up to 3200 in real world examples. The 5DMKIII has superior ISO past 3200 but has half the resolution so thats obvious. I shoot pretty much everything from commercial, editorial, landscape, motorsport, wildlife and weddings. When shooting I try to limit to 4000 and last resort 6400 and still get great results. So 3200 isn't far off my limit for quality on the 5DMKIII.
The only negatives I can see from the 5DS is that you have to be very careful to ensure you don't introduce blur by shooting at a higher shutter speed, the file size and the buffer is smaller (understandably). Other than that its like a supercharged 5DMKIII.
I like my 5DMKIII and is more than enough for me in terms of print, I get very nice A1 prints which is exactly what i need. But if i were in the market now for a 5DMKIII I think I would head in the 5DS direction. I really wanted to dislike the 5DS because of the file size and unnecessary resolution but in this case more is more and the 5DS has it.
Im going to wait for the 5DIV because I want a higher frame rate without going back to crop and not buying a 1DX. Pretty exciting in the canon camp for me, I know everyone is fed up but Canon have plateaued and anything they can do more is great. I don't want a mirrorless camera, although playing with some A7RII images its incredible how far you can push them, but makes me feel its cheating more for the photographer who doesn't pay enough attention and can make a good exposure from poor shooting. Makes the technical photographers skills less important.
You hear all these complaints from these web dwellers that the DR is poor the files are rubbish etc. But I am a real photographer I shoot for publication and make my living from my equipment. Ive traveled half way round the world in really pressing environments like the Amazon, sahara, atakama, arctic etc with my 5DMKIII and love it and its form factor, theres not a huge amount more than incremental upgrades that can make it much more perfect. Yes it would be nice to have a little more latitude but there aren't many times that I have hit the limit of the technology that post can't deliver the right results.
I can only think of one time recently where I have hit the barrier.
Ive been working on a set of images for a british company called United Utilities, I was shooting some long exposures of Thirlmere reservoir. It can be quite difficult to shoot the lakes as quite a lot of them run north to south and are deep V and U shaped valleys. So to get a sunrise or sunset you have to get up really high to get an overview to be able to see the sun. If you don't and you sit at the waterside waiting for the light the sun won't ever rise over the mountains and light the valley, you will never get to see it going down either, very hard in that golden hour. Problem with reservoirs is that they are designed to filter water so the water doesn't need as much treatment so they create dense forrest and encourage moss growth. So a lot of the time footpaths don't venture too far and if you do make the effort to hike through the forrest and undergrowth you disturb the hard work that has been achieved so it is an ethical decision, in the is case as I was working for the company who do all this work it was unethical to do so.
The answer is to wait until the sun has set and the valley is in even light and then catch the end of the sunset with the colours produced by the sunset. Add a long exposure and you get the silky movement of the sky and water.
This was shot as ISO 100 for 3 1/2 minutes using a 10 stop ND. If the exposure was any more than 3 1/2 minutes the highlights would blow and be unrecoverable. So at this length of time you get a lot of hot spots and pushing the sensor quite far. Out of the camera the image looked good but the shadows were underexposed. In lightroom I brought the exposure up to +1.65 +88 on the shadows and -100 highlight. This amazingly didn't give me a banding but I usually find I struggle with colour noise so in this case my noise reduction was set on 35 as the noise wasn't too bad for this type of increased exposure but my colour reduction is set to 45, detail at 50 and smoothness at 100. I find smoothness quite a misguiding slider as it doesn't smooth detail but red green and blue colour noise, brought it into photoshop and added 100 in the smart sharpen tab made a mask and selectively sharpened.
It then looked brilliant. I made an A1 print looks incredible and the image is below.
Thirlmere Reservoir , Allerdale, Lake District, Cumbria by
Tom Scott, on Flickr
This is IMO pushing quite far and its very very rare I shoot and push the camera this far and the image still looks great, clients were thrilled and its being made into a wall print for their headquarters. Even tho the current Canon sensors aren't quite as good as the Nikon equivalent for that sort of shot similar post would have been needed and a HDR not useful because of moving elements like the sky and water so this is the only option.
