EOS 100D/SL1 finally discontinued?

[Maximilian]

I've got the information from two different brick and mortar stores here in Germany that the EOS 100D / SL1 is discontinued and/or at least can't be ordered any more from Canon Germany.
In German internet stores it is still available and stocked.

Anybody with different or the same information?

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Generally, cameras are not discontinued until a replacement is available. It is entirely possible that production has switched to a replacement, or that stores that are out of stock are pushing something else.

I'd hope that a new model is not on the way, I'd want to wait until it could take advantage of the newer sensor and AF technology that will be first announced in high end models.

 

[Maximilian]

Thanks, Mt Spokane, for your estimation.

I also hope that the SL1 concept will live on in the Canon DSLR world.
And if so, we'll surely see some improvements with iterations.
And we will need 2 iterations for (really) new and not only improved sensor tech, this I'm sure.
If an SL2 comes out this year it will get sensor tech from the new rebels or 70D.

 

[Maximilian]

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Well, maybe I will just keep my 6D for astrophotography (it takes a lot of planning), and for everything else I'll use something much smaller. The quality difference between APS-C and FF isn't that great at daytime. And quality is actually a rather low priority. It's more about aesthetics and the joy of photography.
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Hi Crosswind!

I can fully understand your point of view.
But I hope, you'll keep your 6D because of the aesthetics. You're right, that there is not so much difference between FF and APS-C anymore, but with APS-C it is slightly more difficult to achieve the aesthetics of shallow DOF than with FF.

That's the main reason for me, why I still prefer my main FF rig and use the 100D only when I want to travel light.

One thing else for you to consider in your choice:
Right now you can get the SL1 for little more than half of it's price when it was released.
An SL2/110D will be at the high price level again for some months.
But having the money or being willing to wait some time is something I surely understand.

 

[MintChocs]

If there is no SL2, then I will more than likely switch to four thirds. I have a FF 6D which I will keep but as 4/3 sensor tech is matching/exceeding Canon aps-c tech I see little reason to stay with Canon aps-c. My 450D is getting on a bit!

 

[pwp]

If there is no SL2, then I will more than likely switch to four thirds. I have a FF 6D which I will keep but as 4/3 sensor tech is matching/exceeding Canon aps-c tech I see little reason to stay with Canon aps-c. My 450D is getting on a bit!

I had an SL1 as a travel/trekking camera when the FF bodies just felt like too much. I loved just about everything about it. While the AF was quick and accurate, downgrading to the ancient 9 point setup meant I was just missing too many shots (for the way I shoot). I also missed the speed with which I can work with 5DIII & 1DIV with instantly available controls and plenty of AF points. But the SL1 is a great little camera for people with shooting styles that are more considered or less demanding than the way I instinctively work.

Circling back to MintChocs post, I replaced the SL1 with a ripper of a MFT, the completely awesome Panasonic GH4. Initially the GH4 was bought for it's video functionality (kills the 5DIII) but it's stills potential was quickly revealed, and the SL1 was sold. If there is an SL2, it's sure to be a big seller if it ships with new sensor tech and at least a 19 point AF array.

-pw

 

[Chaitanya]

even if its discontinued they must have huge inventory to clear.

 

[fon-foto]

I must admit I purchased mine 'used' purely for a low profile/weight option to my 5D. If I'd have realised just how much use I'd get from it, I may have taken the plunge sooner. EF-S 24mm (pancake) and the 50mm 1.8 STM produce simply good results and the whole shabang can fit in a small bag.

+1 to keep the line alive 8)

 

[arcer]

I think Spokane is correct that a new product is looming when a older production line is halted. I hope that the EOS SL2 will happen as it is a interesting product where Canon shows the world that mirrorslappers can be small.

My predicted specs for SL2:
24MP Sensor (from the 750D/760D)
Digic 6 Image Processor
19 point all cross type AF system (from the 750D/760D)
5fps shooting
Hybrid CMOS AF III (Would rather it be DPAF from 7D2/80D and I would pay for it)
Similar boring video aspects of the latest rebels
WiFi + NFC
$600+ at launch (Body only)

I look forward to use I as a backup travel camera. (You'll never know what happen during your vacation)


P.S. Long time reader of CR Forum, just had the time now to be a canon keyboard fanboy.

 

[DRR]

I hope there is an SL2. People seem to enjoy using them and it's a lot of power and compatibility in a small package.

The SL1, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's basically a shrunken-down T4i, correct? Obviously it's ergonomically different but from a technical point of view they seem very similar. Couldn't they do the same thing with the T6i and shrink that down for the SL2? I would think that the bulk of the R&D has already been invested so it should not be terribly difficult to do the same with the SL2.

 

[Nininini]

Seems like canon is throwing in the towel for DSLR, and going full mirrorless. Jumping to Nikon or Pentax if Canon starts abandoning DSLR.

The SL1 is still in the top 20 sales of cameras on Amazon and it's from 2013, if that isn't good enough for Canon, it means they have no confidence in DSLR anymore.

 

[Nininini]

If there is no SL2, then I will more than likely switch to four thirds.

If there is no SL2, I am switching to Pentax or Nikon.

If they're no longer going to make lightweight DSLR, I can't stick with canon.

 

[bsbeamer]

even if its discontinued they must have huge inventory to clear.

Amazon was trying to give their stock away before Christmas with deep discounts on "Gold Box" deals without specifically naming that the cameras were Canon SL1's.

Seems like canon is throwing in the towel for DSLR, and going full mirrorless.

How is this the case at all? They are (rumored to be) close to announcing a new flagship DSLR to compete with the Nikon D5. The Canon 80D has been rumored for some time. The 5D is rumored to be replaced with a new model.

If you are saying throwing in the towel for lower-priced, sub $1000 models then that is another conversation. Yes, the SL1 was a cool product that may have sold well... but was it a real "money maker" for Canon? A mirrorless replacement or hybrid model (not necessarily SL2) could take it's place.

This IS Canon, however. The same people who thought the XC10 would succeed and just announced 2016 point and shoot cameras with 720P video technology... so what they end up doing is really a good question.

 

[rrcphoto]

This IS Canon, however. The same people who thought the XC10 would succeed and just announced 2016 point and shoot cameras with 720P video technology... so what they end up doing is really a good question.

You mean the same cameras that are top selling in japan? The cameras those are replacing are pretty much always the top selling P&S cameras in japan.

Perhaps they know what they are doing?

 

[dak723]

If there is no SL2, then I will more than likely switch to four thirds. I have a FF 6D which I will keep but as 4/3 sensor tech is matching/exceeding Canon aps-c tech I see little reason to stay with Canon aps-c. My 450D is getting on a bit!

Nothing against 4/3rds cameras. I had an Olympus Em-1 and it was a very nice camera and fun to use. But even the top of the line Em-1 coupled with their Pro 12-40mm lens didn't take as good a pic as my SL-1 with 18-55 STM kit lens - at least daylight pics under normal shooting conditions. Better color gradations and sharper - as one would expect with the larger sensor. Of course, everyone's needs are different and the differences in IQ are small between almost every offering in the DSLR and Mirrorless worlds.

 

[Sportsgal501]

Hoping the SL2 is in the works, picked up a Pentax K-S2 over the holidays and haven't touched my SL1.
The tilt screen on the Pentax is heaven sent, especially when your dealing with an old ACL injury that flares up with arthritis from time to time.

 

[Nininini]

Hoping the SL2 is in the works, picked up a Pentax K-S2 over the holidays and haven't touched my SL1.
The tilt screen on the Pentax is heaven sent, especially when your dealing with an old ACL injury that flares up with arthritis from time to time.

I've been jealous of Pentax users lately. The KS2 is cheaper than the 760D here, and yet it has a pentaprism, 100% coverage, fully weather sealed. and a smaller size than a 760D. The 760D is costlier and has a puny pentamirror.

If you want weather sealing and pentaprism in Canon, you have to buy the 70D, which for many people is too expensive, it is twice the price of a KS2.

If Canon discontinues the SL1, the smallest camera would be the 750D, or T6i, which is a very large camera compared to the KS2 and micro 4/3

For people wanting small cameras, we would be forced to leave Canon. If this news is true, and Canon is abandoning rebel DSLR, I'm not sticking around.

 

[nhz]

If you want weather sealing and pentaprism in Canon, you have to buy the 70D, which for many people is too expensive, it is twice the price of a KS2.

If Canon discontinues the SL1, the smallest camera would be the 750D, or T6i, which is a very large camera compared to the KS2 and micro 4/3

For people wanting small cameras, we would be forced to leave Canon. If this news is true, and Canon is abandoning rebel DSLR, I'm not sticking around.

Agree about all that, I'm using an old 450D and haven't found an attractive upgrade yet. The Rebel has gained a bit of weight over the years despite smaller viewfinders. If you want a decent viewfinder the 70D is the lightest option, at nearly double the weight!

SL1 is the only Canon DSLR that competes on weight with cameras like Nikon D5500. I don't think Canon will ignore buyers who want a really small and light camera, but some day they might decide that mirrorless is the way to go for small/light.

If there is an SL2 I really hope it does have a decent grip and a tilt screen, and at least the sensor and AF performance of the T6 series.

 

[Chris Jankowski]

I would welcome a small FF DSLR body from Canon. Similar to SL1 but FF. I already use a FF Canon DSLR and lenses, so I do not want start buying another range of lenses suitable for APS-C format.
There used to be small SLRs in the film time - e.g Minolta Dynax 3 weighing about 400g i.e. as much as SL1 DSLR today. With well integrated electronics and no need for film cassette and winding spool, it should be possible to build an FF DSLR of about the size of SL1.
I would love to have a camera like that for travel. My EOS 6D body weighs twice as much unfortunately.

 

[AshtonNekolah]

I really really hope for a SL2 or something new in the EOS M-lineup in 2016. I could buy the SL1 right now, but it has the old sensor and I want something... "fresh and more up-to-date". I will switch from full frame to APS-C.

Initally I bought the 6D just for astro photography. For that, it's an awesome workhorse (and not only for that). It's one of the lighter and smaller FF DSLRs, but it's still too big and bulky for traveling. Well, maybe I will just keep my 6D for astrophotography (it takes a lot of planning), and for everything else I'll use something much smaller. The quality difference between APS-C and FF isn't that great at daytime. And quality is actually a rather low priority. It's more about aesthetics and the joy of photography.

I don't like carrying around big and heavy stuff anymore. This doesn't mean I have to cut down on image quality. I learned a lot about image stacking, and with it, I can have everything I want, even without tripod. It changed my mind. Doesn't matter what I want to capture; nightsky, landscape, flowing water, rivers, sundowns etc... as long as my subjects are static, not dynamic (which is mostly the case). Photoshop's auto-aligning and stacking modes are just so crazy good... Carrying around less stuff makes me much more happy.

I agree.