5DIII has a minimum shutter speed setting!!!

[cosedi]

I always envied how my Nikon friends had a minimum shutter speed setting.
And maybe like me you also signed the petition www.petitiononline.com/Canon5D/ to give Canon users settings for minimum shutter speed and maximum ISO.

Now 5DIII users have minimum shutter speed and maximum ISO limit! Anyone as excited about this as me?

This way, if I shoot in Aperture mode, the camera can always choose the lowest ISO in Auto ISO mode such that the minimum shutter speed is satisfied.

 

[Viggo]

I used a similar function on the 1-series cameras, where I set a speed the camera never go below. For example for concerts I don't get those random 30 second exposures if my spot-meter misses a fast moving target, and if it's suddenly VERY bright on stage, I don't loose those shots, because the camera drops to 1/8000s instead, fantastic function. However I have never used with auto-iso, think I have only used auto-iso for video...

 

[AvTvM]

Auto ISO on the 5DIII is an improvement but still not good enough.
For (indoor) sports you will often want shorter minimum speed than 1/250s ... on any current Nikon the minimum speed can be set to any speed, including 1/8000s, if you so desire.

 

[spinworkxroy]

The minimum setting is only 1/250 actually for Auto ISO and sometimes this is not enough..Nikons go much higher i believe..i wished a firmware could change that to be slightly faster..at least 1/500 IMO

 

[briansquibb]

The minimum setting is only 1/250 actually for Auto ISO and sometimes this is not enough..Nikons go much higher i believe..i wished a firmware could change that to be slightly faster..at least 1/500 IMO

It would be good to implement the feature that allows this on the Series 1

 

[smirkypants]

As others have said, this is a joke. A lowly Nikon d7000 can set the minimum shutter all the way to 1/4000 with auto ISO. 1/250 is crawling when you're shooting something really fast. The feature is useless for how I would use it since I would set it between 1/800 and 1/1250.

 

[briansquibb]

As others have said, this is a joke. A lowly Nikon d7000 can set the minimum shutter all the way to 1/4000 with auto ISO. 1/250 is crawling when you're shooting something really fast. The feature is useless for how I would use it since I would set it between 1/800 and 1/1250.

It needs the feature you have on the 1D4

 

[smirkypants]

It needs the feature you have on the 1D4

Squibby. Do you have any theory as to why it's limited to 1/250? For the life of me I can't figure it out. I can't imagine that there are technical barriers. Seems so, I don't know, ridiculous?

Granted, this won't be my go-to camera sports camera. I got the 5D3 for sidelines shots, some portraiture that I do, and for UW, so it probably won't matter to me.

 

[briansquibb]

It needs the feature you have on the 1D4

Squibby. Do you have any theory as to why it's limited to 1/250? For the life of me I can't figure it out. I can't imagine that there are technical barriers. Seems so, I don't know, ridiculous?

Granted, this won't be my go-to camera sports camera. I got the 5D3 for sidelines shots, some portraiture that I do, and for UW, so it probably won't matter to me.

No idea why they didn't do it. Perhaps to create a gap between the 1Dx and the 5DIII? Just a guess

 

[Loswr]

No idea why they didn't do it. Perhaps to create a gap between the 1Dx and the 5DIII? Just a guess

I suspect that's exactly the reason. Surprisingly to me, Canon gave the 5DIII the same AF as the 1D X - that used to be their big separator between the 1-series and everything lower. But most of the 'little' differentiators, like full customization, are still there...

 

[AvTvM]

No idea why they didn't do it. Perhaps to create a gap between the 1Dx and the 5DIII? Just a guess

I suspect that's exactly the reason. Surprisingly to me, Canon gave the 5DIII the same AF as the 1D X - that used to be their big separator between the 1-series and everything lower. But most of the 'little' differentiators, like full customization, are still there...

exactly this type of marketing differentiation and unnecessary firmware castration that is so often used by Canon drives me more and more towards Nikon. The D800 has full blast AF, Metering etc. - just like the D4. Apart from sensor and integrated vertical grip there is very little in the way of petty product differentiation. And all of that for 600 Euro less.

With Canon I always feel "nickeld and dimed".

 

[briansquibb]

No idea why they didn't do it. Perhaps to create a gap between the 1Dx and the 5DIII? Just a guess

I suspect that's exactly the reason. Surprisingly to me, Canon gave the 5DIII the same AF as the 1D X - that used to be their big separator between the 1-series and everything lower. But most of the 'little' differentiators, like full customization, are still there...

exactly this type of marketing differentiation and unnecessary firmware castration that is so often used by Canon drives me more and more towards Nikon. The D800 has full blast AF, Metering etc. - just like the D4. Apart from sensor and integrated vertical grip there is very little in the way of petty product differentiation. And all of that for 600 Euro less.

With Canon I always feel "nickeld and dimed".

I have a 1d4 and never used this feature in any form of anger. EC on the fly is easier handled in pp - so this is just a minor point because if you have time then you can set it up properly in M - except for a few exceptions.

If it is that important then you will be looking at a 1DX or D4 anyway.

 

[MK5GTI]

wow, both Auto ISO and Minimum shutter speed is new to me.

My 5D1 got no Auto ISO, useful when my wife is using it.

does the 5D2 has auto ISO?

 

[Loswr]

does the 5D2 has auto ISO?

Yes, but not in M mode (it locks at 400).

 

[cosedi]

For the sports shooters that want faster than 1/250 shutter speed as minimum, what is your application?

With the feature set of the 5DII, I would always shoot sports in shutter priority (Tv) (which can be fixed to as fast as 1/8000). Now with the flexibility of AutoISO in manual mode (M), I also have ability to fix the shutter speed and the aperture while leaving AutoISO to compensate for changes in lighting.

Now with the 5DIII, I would use the minimum shutter speed in Aperture mode, which I would use for events not sports. The minimum shutter speed would safely ensure that I don't have blurry pictures as my subjects will not not moving fast.

 

[Jamesy]

I don't have my camera with me to test it but minimum 1/250 does not preclude it from going to 1/8000 - it just means it will not get any slower than 1/250, no?

 

[smirkypants]

For the sports shooters that want faster than 1/250 shutter speed as minimum, what is your application?

With the feature set of the 5DII, I would always shoot sports in shutter priority (Tv) (which can be fixed to as fast as 1/8000). Now with the flexibility of AutoISO in manual mode (M), I also have ability to fix the shutter speed and the aperture while leaving AutoISO to compensate for changes in lighting.

Now with the 5DIII, I would use the minimum shutter speed in Aperture mode, which I would use for events not sports. The minimum shutter speed would safely ensure that I don't have blurry pictures as my subjects will not not moving fast.

Yes, but.... consider. This approach is risky if you're not careful. ISO has a minimum setting. If you set your camera's aperture at f4 and your shutter speed at 1/800, if the day brightens, your ISO won't be able to go low enough to properly expose your photo and what you'll get is a photo that's blown out and almost white from edge to edge. Likewise, if you start off shooting when it's bright with settings of f4 and 1/2000, if it clouds over or the sun starts going down, you may unwittingly find yourself shooting at ISO 6400 with grainier than needed photos. It would have been better to lower the shutter speed bit by bit as the day darkened.

Having a set minimum shutter speed at say 1/1000 or 1/2000 obviates the need to keep adjusting things shutter speed in manual. Likewise, if you are shooting a field with one end in light and the other in deep shadow, hard setting your shutter speed will cause wild fluctuations in ISO where you would rather have your shutter move between 1/1000 and 1/8000 and keep the ISO as low as possible.

AV with much more useful floor is an elegant solution.

 

[JR]

I don't have my camera with me to test it but minimum 1/250 does not preclude it from going to 1/8000 - it just means it will not get any slower than 1/250, no?

Yes this is what it means.

 

[Iahcon]

For the sports shooters that want faster than 1/250 shutter speed as minimum, what is your application?

With the feature set of the 5DII, I would always shoot sports in shutter priority (Tv) (which can be fixed to as fast as 1/8000). Now with the flexibility of AutoISO in manual mode (M), I also have ability to fix the shutter speed and the aperture while leaving AutoISO to compensate for changes in lighting.

Now with the 5DIII, I would use the minimum shutter speed in Aperture mode, which I would use for events not sports. The minimum shutter speed would safely ensure that I don't have blurry pictures as my subjects will not not moving fast.

This sums it up well, and if I may add..
Why would you need such a high "minimum" shutter speed? A minimum setting is just that, setting a LOW point. This is to prevent those blurry pics while in Av mode.

Why would anyone shoot sports or any other action shots in Av mode? Most would use Tv and set a good shutter speed to catch action with the option of letting the camera auto adjust ISO.

But wait, now we have changing lighting conditions and are afraid that the auto ISO won't be enough...Since I may not be thinking about light, Do I actually have to check my exposure and adjust my high dollar camera, which has infinitesimal adjustments in it, turning a knob here and dial there to get a good exposure?? NOOOOO! Just put it in the green box! Yes, now the camera will do everything and I don't have to think about what it's doing, and since you can now buy a cheaper camera that comes with a green box you will save money. Bonus! it will even come with a flash...

I also like that auto ISO has been included in M mode on the mkIII. And FYI on the mkII the ISO is not "locked" at 400, it is automatically set to 400. You can adjust it to whatever you want.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

As noted in the manual, the minimum shutter speed setting is for wide angle lenses where 1/250 is reasonably fast.

If you are shooting sports, use TV or M to set a definite shutter speed. That should not be a big challenge.