100MM 2.8 USM or THE 100MM L for portrait and macro work??

[chas1113]

I believe it has 9 blades for improved OOF areas. Is it creamy 135L smooth? No. But it is worlds better than the choppy background blur of the EF 24-105L. I'm sure you know what THAT looks like.

 

[skoobey]

I believe it has 9 blades for improved OOF areas. Is it creamy 135L smooth? No. But it is worlds better than the choppy background blur of the EF 24-105L. I'm sure you know what THAT looks like.

Let me tell you, it's not bad in some instances, but when there are plenty of small leaves or tiles in frame it goes ZIG ZAG. hahaha

 

[chas1113]

I believe it has 9 blades for improved OOF areas. Is it creamy 135L smooth? No. But it is worlds better than the choppy background blur of the EF 24-105L. I'm sure you know what THAT looks like.

Let me tell you, it's not bad in some instances, but when there are plenty of small leaves or tiles in frame it goes ZIG ZAG. hahaha

Exactly! Don't get me wrong, I love my 24-105L, but if you're grabbing a quick portrait, you really need to watch your background textures/subject-to-background distance with that lens. To be honest, I bought the 100L for macro and I'm using it more for casual portraits, the rounded aperture blades have a nice "calming" effect on skin tones and yet, the overall rendering of the lens is razor sharp. I think you'll get a lot of use out of it. I have.

 

[skoobey]

I believe it has 9 blades for improved OOF areas. Is it creamy 135L smooth? No. But it is worlds better than the choppy background blur of the EF 24-105L. I'm sure you know what THAT looks like.

Let me tell you, it's not bad in some instances, but when there are plenty of small leaves or tiles in frame it goes ZIG ZAG. hahaha

Exactly! Don't get me wrong, I love my 24-105L, but if you're grabbing a quick portrait, you really need to watch your background textures/subject-to-background distance with that lens. To be honest, I bought the 100L for macro and I'm using it more for casual portraits, the rounded aperture blades have a nice "calming" effect on skin tones and yet, the overall rendering of the lens is razor sharp. I think you'll get a lot of use out of it. I have.

I'm getting more and more convinced that this lens is what I read it was.

 

[mifho]

The cost of 100mm USM + ringlight flash = 100L. If you're doing macro, you need good light and a ringlight makes macro easy. Otherwise, you're going to need to get your flash off camera and close to the subject. In broad daylight, you can't get as close as MFD without the lens starting to cast shadows on your subject. Plus, with the ringlight, you can get those Terry Richardson type of portraits.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

I was wondering what are your opinions on 100mm Canon macro lenses?

I plan on buying something that is great both for fashion macro (face-close ups, jewelry, eyes, lips, nails) and portrait (including full body shots). I dislike changing lenses, and I only have one body(edit it's a 5d mkII) to work with.

Autofocus has to be great, I tested a used 100mm USM MAcro, and it back-focused a lot, and I'm not sure is that a common problem, as many have complained about the early examples of this lens, and I don't know how old that lens was. ;D

Distortion is my big concern. How much is there in both of them when it comes to barrel/pincushion?

I own 24-105, but it does have a way too strong of a distortion, and I don't like that effect one bit. It is only perfectly straight at 35mm. I shoot with a lot of horizontal/vertical/diagonal lines on the set and it MUST be straight at the capture.

Sharpness is a must, 24-105 is reasonably sharp, but I really hope to get something much sharper.

Bokeh is important only as far is looks good, not broken up too much (like 50 1.8 for example), and not jaggedy, but I shoot stopped down exclusively, so DOF is really nothing to consider.

Price is important, but I'll stretch if I must.

Anyone has experience with either/both? Your opinion?

Maybe even some other manufacturer?

I shoot using 5d mkII. I shoot fashion and internal AF is just fine with me.

Its hard to have your cake and eat it too, but its possible. You can get more improvement from your 24-105L than from buying a 100L without DLO, and its free!

You have a very good lens, 24-105L. Free Canon DPP software with DLO removes or at least minimises distortion. It even reduces diffusion effects and distortion from the AA filter.

If that does not work out, you might want to set your sights on a much more expensive lens that a 100L.

Give it a try before buying a new lens.
http://web.canon.jp/imaging/dlo/factor/index.html

 

[skoobey]

Its hard to have your cake and eat it too, but its possible. You can get more improvement from your 24-105L than from buying a 100L without DLO, and its free!

You have a very good lens, 24-105L. Free Canon DPP software with DLO removes or at least minimises distortion. It even reduces diffusion effects and distortion from the AA filter.

If that does not work out, you might want to set your sights on a much more expensive lens that a 100L.

Give it a try before buying a new lens.
http://web.canon.jp/imaging/dlo/factor/index.html
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I'll se what id does, but it sure doesn't make 70mm image look like 100mm, or a general purpose lens shoot macro, or soft lens shoot sharp, or straighten the image without distorting the subject.

 

[skoobey]

I was wondering what are your opinions on 100mm Canon macro lenses?

I plan on buying something that is great both for fashion macro (face-close ups, jewelry, eyes, lips, nails) and portrait (including full body shots). I dislike changing lenses, and I only have one body(edit it's a 5d mkII) to work with.

Autofocus has to be great, I tested a used 100mm USM MAcro, and it back-focused a lot, and I'm not sure is that a common problem, as many have complained about the early examples of this lens, and I don't know how old that lens was. ;D

Distortion is my big concern. How much is there in both of them when it comes to barrel/pincushion?

I own 24-105, but it does have a way too strong of a distortion, and I don't like that effect one bit. It is only perfectly straight at 35mm. I shoot with a lot of horizontal/vertical/diagonal lines on the set and it MUST be straight at the capture.

Sharpness is a must, 24-105 is reasonably sharp, but I really hope to get something much sharper.

Bokeh is important only as far is looks good, not broken up too much (like 50 1.8 for example), and not jaggedy, but I shoot stopped down exclusively, so DOF is really nothing to consider.

Price is important, but I'll stretch if I must.

Anyone has experience with either/both? Your opinion?

Maybe even some other manufacturer?

I shoot using 5d mkII. I shoot fashion and internal AF is just fine with me.

Its hard to have your cake and eat it too, but its possible. You can get more improvement from your 24-105L than from buying a 100L without DLO, and its free!

You have a very good lens, 24-105L. Free Canon DPP software with DLO removes or at least minimises distortion. It even reduces diffusion effects and distortion from the AA filter.

If that does not work out, you might want to set your sights on a much more expensive lens that a 100L.

Give it a try before buying a new lens.
http://web.canon.jp/imaging/dlo/factor/index.html

This is THE WORST PROGRAM I HAVE EVER USED!!! ahhaha

First I had to find the disc that came with the camera. Done that. Installed it.

It is super slow.

When I do that DLO thing the preview is so zoomed in, there is no way to see how it affects the image, but it is sharpening something.

Then I click save.

It saves the settings, but they are not affecting the original file, and they cannot be exported as individual TFFs, so I basically did nothing.

EDIT: Okay, so it can be exported as individual TIFFs, you go to batch for some reason and only select one image, and it still looks so bad compared to the Capture One conversion. If we could do miracles, we would live in a much much better world. ;D

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

I was wondering what are your opinions on 100mm Canon macro lenses?

I plan on buying something that is great both for fashion macro (face-close ups, jewelry, eyes, lips, nails) and portrait (including full body shots). I dislike changing lenses, and I only have one body(edit it's a 5d mkII) to work with.

Autofocus has to be great, I tested a used 100mm USM MAcro, and it back-focused a lot, and I'm not sure is that a common problem, as many have complained about the early examples of this lens, and I don't know how old that lens was. ;D

Distortion is my big concern. How much is there in both of them when it comes to barrel/pincushion?

I own 24-105, but it does have a way too strong of a distortion, and I don't like that effect one bit. It is only perfectly straight at 35mm. I shoot with a lot of horizontal/vertical/diagonal lines on the set and it MUST be straight at the capture.

Sharpness is a must, 24-105 is reasonably sharp, but I really hope to get something much sharper.

Bokeh is important only as far is looks good, not broken up too much (like 50 1.8 for example), and not jaggedy, but I shoot stopped down exclusively, so DOF is really nothing to consider.

Price is important, but I'll stretch if I must.

Anyone has experience with either/both? Your opinion?

Maybe even some other manufacturer?

I shoot using 5d mkII. I shoot fashion and internal AF is just fine with me.

Its hard to have your cake and eat it too, but its possible. You can get more improvement from your 24-105L than from buying a 100L without DLO, and its free!

You have a very good lens, 24-105L. Free Canon DPP software with DLO removes or at least minimises distortion. It even reduces diffusion effects and distortion from the AA filter.

If that does not work out, you might want to set your sights on a much more expensive lens that a 100L.

Give it a try before buying a new lens.
http://web.canon.jp/imaging/dlo/factor/index.html

This is THE WORST PROGRAM I HAVE EVER USED!!! ahhaha

First I had to find the disc that came with the camera. Done that. Installed it.

It is super slow.

When I do that DLO thing the preview is so zoomed in, there is no way to see how it affects the image, but it is sharpening something.

Then I click save.

It saves the settings, but they are not affecting the original file, and they cannot be exported as individual TFFs, so I basically did nothing.

EDIT: Okay, so it can be exported as individual TIFFs, you go to batch for some reason and only select one image, and it still looks so bad compared to the Capture One conversion. If we could do miracles, we would live in a much much better world. ;D

Download the latest version updates. You do not have to use batch. You must download the files for the specific lens you are correcting.
It is true, its slow, its doing a huge amount of processing. It does save the changes to the original cr2 file, and can be exported as tiff, DNG, or jpeg. It can open in photoshop, Lightroom, or wherever editor you use. Capture one cannot read the updated CR2 file, but that's not Canon's fault.

 

[skoobey]

I was wondering what are your opinions on 100mm Canon macro lenses?

I plan on buying something that is great both for fashion macro (face-close ups, jewelry, eyes, lips, nails) and portrait (including full body shots). I dislike changing lenses, and I only have one body(edit it's a 5d mkII) to work with.

Autofocus has to be great, I tested a used 100mm USM MAcro, and it back-focused a lot, and I'm not sure is that a common problem, as many have complained about the early examples of this lens, and I don't know how old that lens was. ;D

Distortion is my big concern. How much is there in both of them when it comes to barrel/pincushion?

I own 24-105, but it does have a way too strong of a distortion, and I don't like that effect one bit. It is only perfectly straight at 35mm. I shoot with a lot of horizontal/vertical/diagonal lines on the set and it MUST be straight at the capture.

Sharpness is a must, 24-105 is reasonably sharp, but I really hope to get something much sharper.

Bokeh is important only as far is looks good, not broken up too much (like 50 1.8 for example), and not jaggedy, but I shoot stopped down exclusively, so DOF is really nothing to consider.

Price is important, but I'll stretch if I must.

Anyone has experience with either/both? Your opinion?

Maybe even some other manufacturer?

I shoot using 5d mkII. I shoot fashion and internal AF is just fine with me.

Its hard to have your cake and eat it too, but its possible. You can get more improvement from your 24-105L than from buying a 100L without DLO, and its free!

You have a very good lens, 24-105L. Free Canon DPP software with DLO removes or at least minimises distortion. It even reduces diffusion effects and distortion from the AA filter.

If that does not work out, you might want to set your sights on a much more expensive lens that a 100L.

Give it a try before buying a new lens.
http://web.canon.jp/imaging/dlo/factor/index.html

This is THE WORST PROGRAM I HAVE EVER USED!!! ahhaha

First I had to find the disc that came with the camera. Done that. Installed it.

It is super slow.

When I do that DLO thing the preview is so zoomed in, there is no way to see how it affects the image, but it is sharpening something.

Then I click save.

It saves the settings, but they are not affecting the original file, and they cannot be exported as individual TFFs, so I basically did nothing.

EDIT: Okay, so it can be exported as individual TIFFs, you go to batch for some reason and only select one image, and it still looks so bad compared to the Capture One conversion. If we could do miracles, we would live in a much much better world. ;D

Download the latest version updates. You do not have to use batch. You must download the files for the specific lens you are correcting.
It is true, its slow, its doing a huge amount of processing. It does save the changes to the original cr2 file, and can be exported as tiff, DNG, or jpeg. It can open in photoshop, Lightroom, or wherever editor you use. Capture one cannot read the updated CR2 file, but that's not Canon's fault.

I see no difference in the original file except that Capture One no longer opens it?

Why is it called batch processing if it can process a single image? ahhaha

It is a nice way to put a bit more detail into your images, so thank you for this tip, but it is not constructive for most of my work, as it gives me no option to use Capture One.

Knowlege is power, so thank you.

I still plan on buying a prime, though. Imagine what this could do to an already superior image.

How about just getting a 85mm and 100mm macro USM(not L)???

I can't afford the L and the 85 at the moment, and I know I love 85 for beauty.

Is that much difference in the L?

 

[skoobey]

Any suggestions?