1d X field test

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This is so odd because we hear so much about some kind of softness in the mkiii image, which by the way i did experienced personally with my unit of the 5d mkiii i tried, and now we see lots of 1dx picture on the web with some kind of softness too. Wondering if they changed something to their AA filter design that could cause this or maybe it is something else. ???
 
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JR said:
Nice review. Thanks for posting. Not sure if it was my iPad screen or something but the pictures in the article seemed soft a bit (the crop one)... Did you find the same on your screen?

Really soft––almost blurry. Strange. My raw files from my 5d2 don't look that soft. In fact with a good lens they almost need no sharpening.
 
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nitsujwalker said:
JR said:
Nice review. Thanks for posting. Not sure if it was my iPad screen or something but the pictures in the article seemed soft a bit (the crop one)... Did you find the same on your screen?

Really soft––almost blurry. Strange. My raw files from my 5d2 don't look that soft. In fact with a good lens they almost need no sharpening.

+1 for me as well. My 5D mkii raw are rasor sharp with all my lenses. I dont know if it is firmware or something, but something is off with Canon new bodies...
 
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JR said:
This is so odd because we hear so much about some kind of softness in the mkiii image, which by the way i did experienced personally with my unit of the 5d mkiii i tried, and now we see lots of 1dx picture on the web with some kind of softness too. Wondering if they changed something to their AA filter design that could cause this or maybe it is something else. ???

JR I so agree its really worrying, I have no idea whats going on, I wanted to buy the 5D3 but was so concerned about the images being soft, is this something that can be fixed? who knows its really bad, I don't understand how this past a testing stage and was released like this,
 
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I tried to reply on Jay Goodrich's post, and it wasn't posted as I said how terrible the images looked, it goes to show its all bullshit, monitoring what is posted about a camera because he has some sort of bond with Canon, I think you should be allowed to be heard, its only going to help Canon get better, not hide behind some shit and post a blog about how great something is, when everyone knows there's some problem and it isn't so great, reviews from these people are meaningless if posts are monitored. shame shame shame.
 
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I have a 1DX pre-ordered, but have really been leaning more towards a 5DIII lately. I have been questioning whether the IQ will seem like a downgrade from the 5DII i just sold, as i want a replacement for both my now sold 5DII and 7D. I think the reviews are getting better and better about the 5DIII now that it has been out for a little while, but i still feel there is alot of gray area about the 1DX and what exactly keeps pushing the release date back. Decisions, decisions....
 
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Looking at the 100% crops... Do you guys think those would 'sharpen up nicely'? It leave me wondering...

Edit: It may even be the JPEG files causing the softness much like the 5diii JPEGs were a little off at first..
 
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nitsujwalker said:
Looking at the 100% crops... Do you guys think those would 'sharpen up nicely'? It leave me wondering...

Edit: It may even be the JPEG files causing the softness much like the 5diii JPEGs were a little off at first..

I only shot raw with the mkiii and it was still soft.
 
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Aaron78 said:
I have a 1DX pre-ordered, but have really been leaning more towards a 5DIII lately. I have been questioning whether the IQ will seem like a downgrade from the 5DII i just sold, as i want a replacement for both my now sold 5DII and 7D. I think the reviews are getting better and better about the 5DIII now that it has been out for a little while, but i still feel there is alot of gray area about the 1DX and what exactly keeps pushing the release date back. Decisions, decisions....

Me too! Actually i am renting a D800 next week and will be able to take lots of picture and compare them to the mkiii raw file i still have on my computer. I just need to satisfy my curiousity about this D800 versus mkiii thing. Before paying for the 1dx, i just need to see for myself ...
 
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JR said:
nitsujwalker said:
Looking at the 100% crops... Do you guys think those would 'sharpen up nicely'? It leave me wondering...

Edit: It may even be the JPEG files causing the softness much like the 5diii JPEGs were a little off at first..

I only shot raw with the mkiii and it was still soft.
i guess it all depends what you are shooting and how you are shooting it.
i work mostly in manual focus and i just did a visual effects shoot, on stills, for elements.
the camera was locked off, on a tripod, manual focus, 640 iso, f4 on the 24-105.
the vfx supervisor and compositor both said i delivered the sharpest still elements he has ever had to deal with in post.
so, when i hear people talking about soft images in their stills, i have to think its either human error or your auto focus is not doing exactly what you want. my thought is always that the camera is not a mind reader, it doesnt know the exact point you are trying to focus with, especially if you are using 61-point and servo mode.
i understand that if you are shooting high action you need auto focus for stills, but just think about that if there is any motion from the element or the camera then the softness will vary depending on many many variables, especially very slight motion blur, even if youre shooting at 1/1000th.
anyway, just letting some people in on the fact im getting very sharp results, mostly from decades of experience in knowing what has to be done differently in every shot or situation you are in.
 
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JR said:
Aaron78 said:
I have a 1DX pre-ordered, but have really been leaning more towards a 5DIII lately. I have been questioning whether the IQ will seem like a downgrade from the 5DII i just sold, as i want a replacement for both my now sold 5DII and 7D. I think the reviews are getting better and better about the 5DIII now that it has been out for a little while, but i still feel there is alot of gray area about the 1DX and what exactly keeps pushing the release date back. Decisions, decisions....

Me too! Actually i am renting a D800 next week and will be able to take lots of picture and compare them to the mkiii raw file i still have on my computer. I just need to satisfy my curiousity about this D800 versus mkiii thing. Before paying for the 1dx, i just need to see for myself ...
just to let you know, i was shooting a commercial on a lit stage with the epic, but i brought my 5Dmk3 to do some tests, there happen to be a stills guy doing behind the scenes photos with a d800, so at lunch we put them to the test.
so, two things; honestly, no one could tell the difference btwn the pictures, we brought them up on true waveform monitors and probably the most expensive monitors that youd ever view anything on...we took a poll, no one could tell the difference of the final results. neither could i.
though there was one thing that did occur that was huge for me, when shooting the tests, we had to slow down the nikons shutter to 1/200th to get the exact same stop as the 5Dmk3 at a shutter speed of 1/500th.
but again the final result was indistinguishable.
 
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JR said:
This is so odd because we hear so much about some kind of softness in the mkiii image, which by the way i did experienced personally with my unit of the 5d mkiii i tried, and now we see lots of 1dx picture on the web with some kind of softness too. Wondering if they changed something to their AA filter design that could cause this or maybe it is something else. ???

It seems to me that it's a user focusing issue for both 5D Mark III and 1D X. I had similar issue with 7D until figured out the difference between my 400D and 7D focusing peculiarities.
 
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I saw a great youtube video that was shot in three parts by a canadian camera retailer. The first video compared the 5DIII to the D800 in studio shooting and low (as in ridiculously low) light, the second video was comparing them in low light action shooting (rodeo type event), and i didn't watch the third comparison because it was comparing video capability which i don't use. Anyway, it boiled down to both camereas having an advantage over the other in certain scenarios but no clear cut winner. At the end of both of the videos, the guys in it both agreed that a complete brand change would be foolish, as the real world resluts were too close to justify. Bottom line is, nikon shooters have a great camera in the D800, and canon shooters also have a great camera in the 5DIII.
 
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