1DX owners are you upgrading to the 1DX Mark II?

[ahsanford]

I'm on the fence too. I have never liked the 5D series (I have a mark iii). I love the IDX body which is the only true pro Canon body with amazing ergonomics and ruggedness but I am still disappointed with the sensor. I use my 1DX mainly for studio and portraiture and I am still envious of what is now a relatively old Nikon D810 sensor which has a great combo of DR and pixel count. I might consider the Mk II if it offers a huge improvement in DR. Annie Leibovitz used to shoot with a 1D iii and then moved to Medium Format. I have however seen her still using 35mm sometimes and she now uses a Nikon D810! Canon have let down portrait photographers as far as I am concerned and focus only on sports and PJ's.

Why wouldn't you use the 5DS series? The build of the 1D seems like overkill for a studio camera. You could always grip the 5DS and have a similar feel albeit not identical with a 50 mp camera

Because a 1D-series rig has a little more going for it than a vertical grip. There used to be a line of 1Ds cameras for the detail crowd, and it amassed followers over the years. Those followers liked everything a 1D camera could do but other product lines could not.

In short, the merging of the 1D4 and 1Ds3 into the 1DX delivered a camera that principally delighted the sports/wildlife camp and (largely) left the resolution camp out in the cold. Landscapers, studio photographers, etc. have had to choose the most excellent 1D feature set @ 18-20 MP or had to downgrade their photography experience just to get a higher res sensor.

- A

 

[Jack Douglas]

"In short, the merging of the 1D4 and 1Ds3 into the 1DX delivered a camera that principally delighted the sports/wildlife camp and (largely) left the resolution camp out in the cold. Landscapers, studio photographers, etc. have had to choose the most excellent 1D feature set @ 18-20 MP or had to downgrade their photography experience just to get a higher res sensor.

- A"

That expresses it well. After shooting mostly 1D4 for a few months there was a very depressed feeling going back to my 6D but certainly not due to IQ. The FPS vs. higher resolution either/or issue is problematic for a primarily wildlife shooter. 10 FPS was enough for me. And I don't regret not buying the 7DII relative to non-1DX features but would have bought it if it hadn't been for the early adopter's having issues with AF.

Jack

 

[frankchn]

That expresses it well. After shooting mostly 1D4 for a few months there was a very depressed feeling going back to my 6D but certainly not due to IQ. The FPS vs. higher resolution either/or issue is problematic for a primarily wildlife shooter. 10 FPS was enough for me. And I don't regret not buying the 7DII relative to non-1DX features but would have bought it if it hadn't been for the early adopter's having issues with AF.

While I appreciate the fact that some photographers want a high resolution sensor in a 1D body, I am just not sure if there is a large enough market for Canon to develop that camera.

The 1DX Mark II is already $6000, and a 1DsX will have to be pushing $8000+, and bringing it awfully close to a Pentax 645Z. I don't think enough landscape, portrait or studio photographers really want the build and ruggedness of a 1D level camera, hence the 5Ds. The build quality and responsiveness is still good, but just not 1D-level.

 

[clicstudio]

Yes. Of course. Mine is arriving Friday. I will put my old 1DX on eBay today. I have 362000 shots. I shoot a lot.

 

[ahsanford]

That expresses it well. After shooting mostly 1D4 for a few months there was a very depressed feeling going back to my 6D but certainly not due to IQ. The FPS vs. higher resolution either/or issue is problematic for a primarily wildlife shooter. 10 FPS was enough for me. And I don't regret not buying the 7DII relative to non-1DX features but would have bought it if it hadn't been for the early adopter's having issues with AF.

While I appreciate the fact that some photographers want a high resolution sensor in a 1D body, I am just not sure if there is a large enough market for Canon to develop that camera.

The 1DX Mark II is already $6000, and a 1DsX will have to be pushing $8000+, and bringing it awfully close to a Pentax 645Z. I don't think enough landscape, portrait or studio photographers really want the build and ruggedness of a 1D level camera, hence the 5Ds. The build quality and responsiveness is still good, but just not 1D-level.

Agree the market may be small, but the technical challenges to offer that product would also be small.

I'm not arguing for a high FPS / high MP rig or a brand new 50 MP sensor that is better than the 5DS. Far from it. I'm asking why Canon isn't taking the current 5DS sensor and integrating it into the 1DX II body and letting it snap away at 5 FPS like it does on a 5DS.

Sensor = 5DS
Framerate = 5DS (5 fps)
Everything else (body design / grip / controls / menus / interface) = 1DX II

And I'm not convinced it necessarily needs to climb in price. A 5 fps rig does not need a 400K actuation rated shutter/mirror setup or as comprehensive of a tracking AF setup.

- A

 

[Spectrum]

Probably not, but that's not 100%. I have a 1DX, 5D3, and a 7DII that I am happy with. I shoot lots of sports and I do love the anti-flicker mode of the 7DII that I wish were on the others.

 

[Bennie_CanonShooter]

for the time being NO.
I plan to keep the 1DX until it stops working - just like my 1D Mark Ii and Mark II N (now being converted to full spectrum and soon BW for the N version)

I do love the DPAF and video AF, no need for the 4K for now, Im happy with 1080P on the 1DX and XF300.

I did buy the 80D with the printer bundle that was shared here on CanonRumors.com and just got email to confirm shipment both for the printer (yesterday) and camera (today). - I ordered April 20th. About two weeks time.

So i dont have a 1DX Mark II coming... just an 80D - same excitement... at least for me.

For everyone who ordered the 1DX Mark II - CONGRATS lovely camera and good deal too compared to the 1DX. Some people even said they got free extra battery from other online retailers.

 

[Deleted member 91053]

Undecided!
I like the improved AF and high ISO - the multiple AF points at F8 might be handy too. The improved video is meaningless to me as I don't even know how to turn video on om my 1DX Mk1! The quieter shutter seems like a nice idea but my subjects (wildlife) don't care about my 1DX at 10 fps so I don't either. 2mp more is nice but hardly noticeable.
If the high ISO and new AF prove to be as good as some say then I will be tempted, as to the other "improvements" not sure that I care one way or the other.

 

[canon1dxman]

Not currently planning to upgrade but next Monday I am lucky to be spending the whole day playing with them at Canon UK HQ so that might change my mind

 

[vkiran]

I've sold three of my four 1DX's and have preordered 3 1DX2's (still have to have a body for general work until they come... so one will be for sale soon...)... just awaiting the shipping notice... will likely order the 4th to replace one for one but also picked up a 5DSR in the meantime for some specific things (team photos).

Loved my 1DX's but I want 14 FPS. I set up two remotes and shoot two bodies in hand for sports events, thus 4 bodies.

I did the same with one of my 1DX bodies....Was harder to find a buyer than I originally thought.

regards

 

[falcnr]

I hesitated on upgrading until I investigated beyond two extra megapixels (I wish it was around 25) and the clinchers were focussing points at f8 means I can use my 800 and TC on LBJ's and not worry about grabbing focus and re-composition. Although I can't complain with my original 1dX, any further improvement on an incredible autofocus tracking system has to be good, same on ISO performance. The extra 2 fps frame rate is less important as 12fps is good enough but I will try videoing now as i'm tempted try 4K and with slo mo on wildlife action like bird breeding behaviour.

Selling my 1DX was not hard although now retail has fallen to almost half original ..its gonna hurt (can buy NIB 1DX for $4100 in the gulf). I sold my first 1dx a year ago and just sold my 2nd 1DX last week with very low shutter count $3500. Kind of wondering if I did the right thing as my back up is the 5DSR for stills and its no direct backup to a 1DX. ??? My new 1DX2 is there waiting for me when I return to Canada from UAE in 2 weeks. Can't wait to try it out on west coast before I head to Africa for a month. For now I will read about other peoples experience with their 1DX2

 

[rfd78]

(...)can buy NIB 1DX for $4100 in the gulf(...)

Could you please say where?
The lower I could find was at dubaicameras and it is around $4600

 

[Neutral]

(...)can buy NIB 1DX for $4100 in the gulf(...)

Could you please say where?
The lower I could find was at dubaicameras and it is around $4600

If you are interested in 1DX in Gulf, let me know, I am in this region temporarily.
I will be selling 1DX and getting 1DXm2 from local vendor which might be in pretty soon.

 

[East Wind Photography]

I hesitated on upgrading until I investigated beyond two extra megapixels (I wish it was around 25) and the clinchers were focussing points at f8 means I can use my 800 and TC on LBJ's and not worry about grabbing focus and re-composition. Although I can't complain with my original 1dX, any further improvement on an incredible autofocus tracking system has to be good, same on ISO performance. The extra 2 fps frame rate is less important as 12fps is good enough but I will try videoing now as i'm tempted try 4K and with slo mo on wildlife action like bird breeding behaviour.

Selling my 1DX was not hard although now retail has fallen to almost half original ..its gonna hurt (can buy NIB 1DX for $4100 in the gulf). I sold my first 1dx a year ago and just sold my 2nd 1DX last week with very low shutter count $3500. Kind of wondering if I did the right thing as my back up is the 5DSR for stills and its no direct backup to a 1DX. ??? My new 1DX2 is there waiting for me when I return to Canada from UAE in 2 weeks. Can't wait to try it out on west coast before I head to Africa for a month. For now I will read about other peoples experience with their 1DX2

I haven't had mine out to test on birds yet. I've heard rumors that the 1DXii has a redesigned shutter so while 2fps in itself may seem trivial, the redesign may help in a number of other areas such as vibration and hopefully oil spray as was a bit of a problem in it's predecessor. I think overall the upgrade is worth it as a whole with quite a few incremental improvements across the board.

 

[rfd78]

(...)can buy NIB 1DX for $4100 in the gulf(...)

Could you please say where?
The lower I could find was at dubaicameras and it is around $4600

If you are interested in 1DX in Gulf, let me know, I am in this region temporarily.
I will be selling 1DX and getting 1DXm2 from local vendor which might be in pretty soon.

Thanks! I'm actually waiting on the 5d4 and just curious of the lowest price here in dubai

 

[falcnr]

(...)can buy NIB 1DX for $4100 in the gulf(...)

Could you please say where?
The lower I could find was at dubaicameras and it is around $4600

send me a private message or whatsapp 050 395 1034.

 

[falcnr]

I hesitated on upgrading until I investigated beyond two extra megapixels (I wish it was around 25) and the clinchers were focussing points at f8 means I can use my 800 and TC on LBJ's and not worry about grabbing focus and re-composition. Although I can't complain with my original 1dX, any further improvement on an incredible autofocus tracking system has to be good, same on ISO performance. The extra 2 fps frame rate is less important as 12fps is good enough but I will try videoing now as i'm tempted try 4K and with slo mo on wildlife action like bird breeding behaviour.

Selling my 1DX was not hard although now retail has fallen to almost half original ..its gonna hurt (can buy NIB 1DX for $4100 in the gulf). I sold my first 1dx a year ago and just sold my 2nd 1DX last week with very low shutter count $3500. Kind of wondering if I did the right thing as my back up is the 5DSR for stills and its no direct backup to a 1DX. ??? My new 1DX2 is there waiting for me when I return to Canada from UAE in 2 weeks. Can't wait to try it out on west coast before I head to Africa for a month. For now I will read about other peoples experience with their 1DX2

I haven't had mine out to test on birds yet. I've heard rumors that the 1DXii has a redesigned shutter so while 2fps in itself may seem trivial, the redesign may help in a number of other areas such as vibration and hopefully oil spray as was a bit of a problem in it's predecessor. I think overall the upgrade is worth it as a whole with quite a few incremental improvements across the board.

thanks ..although I've got two weeks before I get my hands on mine. I'm eager to put it to the test. Heading to west coast for bears and bald eagles. Some action and some poor light challenges there.

 

[East Wind Photography]

I hesitated on upgrading until I investigated beyond two extra megapixels (I wish it was around 25) and the clinchers were focussing points at f8 means I can use my 800 and TC on LBJ's and not worry about grabbing focus and re-composition. Although I can't complain with my original 1dX, any further improvement on an incredible autofocus tracking system has to be good, same on ISO performance. The extra 2 fps frame rate is less important as 12fps is good enough but I will try videoing now as i'm tempted try 4K and with slo mo on wildlife action like bird breeding behaviour.

Selling my 1DX was not hard although now retail has fallen to almost half original ..its gonna hurt (can buy NIB 1DX for $4100 in the gulf). I sold my first 1dx a year ago and just sold my 2nd 1DX last week with very low shutter count $3500. Kind of wondering if I did the right thing as my back up is the 5DSR for stills and its no direct backup to a 1DX. ??? My new 1DX2 is there waiting for me when I return to Canada from UAE in 2 weeks. Can't wait to try it out on west coast before I head to Africa for a month. For now I will read about other peoples experience with their 1DX2

I haven't had mine out to test on birds yet. I've heard rumors that the 1DXii has a redesigned shutter so while 2fps in itself may seem trivial, the redesign may help in a number of other areas such as vibration and hopefully oil spray as was a bit of a problem in it's predecessor. I think overall the upgrade is worth it as a whole with quite a few incremental improvements across the board.

thanks ..although I've got two weeks before I get my hands on mine. I'm eager to put it to the test. Heading to west coast for bears and bald eagles. Some action and some poor light challenges there.

I've never been lucky enought to get bears in good lighting. Always after sunset or early morning. 1DXII should work great for that. I've done some shooting in house of my Lab which is about the size of a bear and at ISO32000 (yes three zeros) and in camera processing the images are surpisingly useable. I think it only gets better from there. Good luck. Hope to see some of your work once you get back.

 

[Schultzie]

I went to my local camera store last Saturday and traded in my "old" 1Dx and put it towards the purchase of the Mark II. I got a call today that my camera is in, but I won't be able to pick it up until tomorrow.

 

[applecider]

Schultzie what did you get for 1dx?

Buy body or kit w or wo hard drive curious?

From my prior list:

Still on the fence, will a switch allow me to get photos that I can't now?:

Pros for me:

-More F8 points in wider spread, better autofocus with all lenses
-Possible better high iso noise (as yet undocumented to me)?more pliable files
-Possible better DR in lower iso again show me the proof
-Reasonable cost-the dollar yen will probably be worse in a year or two
-CFast card speed
-GPS
-available while I can still use heavy equipment
-higher Mp count better for cropping "reach"

Cons for me:

-inconvenience of switching (selling 1dx, etc.)

Not important to me I'll take them, just not important to a buy decision:

-higher frame rate
-antiflicker
-4K


This list is still developing so reading the new owners comments in a vacuum (to prevent GAS contact).

I add the 5d IV factors to push me toward 5d4 rather than Dx mii

->30 MP
- same f8 focus as Dx mii
- same high iso as mii, lower iso DR improvements
- 7 or more fps

I note again that Roger at lens rentals says that high MP makes all lenses better, and at least in some recent posts art Morris is singing the praise for the 5 D SR .