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Shadows do look amazing in that ISO3200 file.
I just downloaded a D4 ISO3200 file and applied the same "push the shadows" alterations to both and exported them at 13mp. I'd say they were neck and neck - which is good news really since Nikon has been doing very well with DR recently
I also checked them without the alterations and - again - to my eyes neck and neck.
Regardless of any Nikon vs. Canon silliness - I'm very pleased. It will be a fantastic upgrade from my 5d2!
I just downloaded a D4 ISO3200 file and applied the same "push the shadows" alterations to both and exported them at 13mp. I'd say they were neck and neck - which is good news really since Nikon has been doing very well with DR recently
I also checked them without the alterations and - again - to my eyes neck and neck.
Regardless of any Nikon vs. Canon silliness - I'm very pleased. It will be a fantastic upgrade from my 5d2!
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Your bank will understand... probably...
I was originally going for a 5d3 but there were a few things about the 1dx which attracted me just from the specs. I'm now happy enough with the decision. Regardless of any comparison with the 5d3 (which is amazing) pushing shadows around at ISO3200 will be a dream for me!
I bet the 1dx still doesn't have the low ISO DR of the latest Nikons but I'm cool with that - I shoot ISO800+ at weddings A LOT and that's where I really need the performance.
I imagine the sensor will come out pretty much identical to the d3s.
I was originally going for a 5d3 but there were a few things about the 1dx which attracted me just from the specs. I'm now happy enough with the decision. Regardless of any comparison with the 5d3 (which is amazing) pushing shadows around at ISO3200 will be a dream for me!
I bet the 1dx still doesn't have the low ISO DR of the latest Nikons but I'm cool with that - I shoot ISO800+ at weddings A LOT and that's where I really need the performance.
I imagine the sensor will come out pretty much identical to the d3s.
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I've been doing some tests against the d4 and, at high ISO, it's neck and neck - both in terms of ISO performance with normally exposed files and when shadows are pushed. This is at both ISO3200 and ISO6400.
No idea as of yet what the performance will be like at low ISO, but I'm very happy This puts it in line with the d3s, which is great!
No idea as of yet what the performance will be like at low ISO, but I'm very happy
This puts it in line with the d3s, which is great!
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I own 2 x 5D3's and have shot 4000 frames so far in low light situations and the 1Dx is at least equal or greater than two stops better than the 5D3. 12800 is better than 3200.
I'm not going to argue about it either. I edit an average 200 images a day. The 1Dx is everything Canon and others have said it is.
I'm not going to argue about it either. I edit an average 200 images a day. The 1Dx is everything Canon and others have said it is.
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PhilDrinkwater said:
If the 1Dx really is all that and a bag of chips, well, I guess I'll just have to eat nothing but ramen for a few more months before shelling out for one over a 5D3...
Luckily for me I won't be buying a new body for at least another 8 months, so I've got plenty of time to wait for the dust to settle. And tons of ramen. Tons.
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Yes it is. Remember, Canon upped the MP on the 5D3 whilst keeping the MP at relatively lower 18 on the 1Dx. Physics plays a bit part here. You've got considerably larger pixels and better developed tech in the 1Dx sensor. Also note this replaces two lines of 1D body. It's going to be good.
I still shoot portraits with 2004 tech in the 22mp medium format backs. Why? 9 micron pixels. Nice big fat light gathering pixels. This is why Canon hasn't gone crazy with the MP, there are limits. Same as why the D800 falls apart above ISO1600.... small pixels crammed onto a small sensor.
The same sort of rules apply to lenses and why they will always be a certain size. For me personally I would prefer a 1Dx with 12mp and clean ISO throughout but that's not going to happen
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wockawocka said:PhilDrinkwater said:
Yes it is. Remember, Canon upped the MP on the 5D3 whilst keeping the MP at relatively lower 18 on the 1Dx. Physics plays a bit part here. You've got considerably larger pixels and better developed tech in the 1Dx sensor. Also note this replaces two lines of 1D body. It's going to be good.
I still shoot portraits with 2004 tech in the 22mp medium format backs. Why? 9 micron pixels. Nice big fat light gathering pixels. This is why Canon hasn't gone crazy with the MP, there are limits. Same as why the D800 falls apart above ISO1600 small pixels crammed onto a small sensor.
The same sort of rules apply to lenses and why they will always be a certain size. For me personally I would prefer a 1Dx with 12mp and clean ISO throughout but that's not going to happen
No it really isn't.
The difference between the 1dx and the 5d3 is TINY in terms of resolution - about 10% (5760 vs 5184 pixels). You don't have considerably larger pixels at all - just that tiny percentage difference. Apparently there are some tech advances though, but not that much.
I spoke to Canon reps in the UK. They said RAW performance of the 1dx is about 1/2 stop better than the 5d3.
I've done the tests tonight and you can see the results earlier.
The raw performance of both cameras is pretty close. However, the 1dx might have better shadow performance / DR at high ISO. I can definitely see a difference between the two cameras in that. But that doesn't account for 2 stops either.
Unless you're talking JPEG? Canon keep quoting JPEG performance but really that's just smoke and mirrors.
Just to be very clear - the 1dx is not 2 stops better than the 5d3. It's not even a physical possibility since the two cameras are so close in resolution.. sorry!
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OK, I have the link to Dave Cheok's webpage here http://www.davidcheok.com/wp/?p=364 The download link is there. The direct download link is probably not working due to hotlink protection as per Dave's commentary below.
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If anyone wants a copy of the RAW images from the 1dX, you may download a zip with 3 files (74mb). Included are three files at full RAW at ISO 3200, 6400 and 12800. Have fun!
Update: File is now ready for download.
Update: hundreds of downloads and nobody bothers to say thank you. Pffft. And on some sites, I’ve been hot-linked and blocked from private forums. Ive enabled hotlink protection for this site. You should still be able to download the file from this page but not direct.
Update: Those that have downloaded the files, do comment here on what you think of it. I think it has a lot of potential. Some of the NR I’ve done on some files are quite heavy. Ive only used the NR in LR and not my usual techniques. Just wanted to keep the processing on a neutral level.
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If anyone wants a copy of the RAW images from the 1dX, you may download a zip with 3 files (74mb). Included are three files at full RAW at ISO 3200, 6400 and 12800. Have fun!
Update: File is now ready for download.
Update: hundreds of downloads and nobody bothers to say thank you. Pffft. And on some sites, I’ve been hot-linked and blocked from private forums. Ive enabled hotlink protection for this site. You should still be able to download the file from this page but not direct.
Update: Those that have downloaded the files, do comment here on what you think of it. I think it has a lot of potential. Some of the NR I’ve done on some files are quite heavy. Ive only used the NR in LR and not my usual techniques. Just wanted to keep the processing on a neutral level.
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