50mm: Wich one?

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jcollett said:
Canon will be updating the 50 and maybe the 85 like they did with the 24, 28, and 35. Unknown what the final aperture will be on the new lenses but the build quality will most definitely improve. Now, while waiting for a current 50mm to be built for EF, why not consider getting a 40 f/2.8 STM? Image quality is excellent and the lens is very inexpensive.

yes, I am considering it even if I don't like how it fits on the camera :)
I'll wait the new release and then judge my best option!
 
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I have Sigma 50mm F1.4. The AFMA for this lens was 13 when I just bought it. I believe it would be a problem if I used it on a body has no AFMA feature. With AF adjustment, the lens is perfect. Few months ago I sent it back to Sigma maintenance center to adjust AF. I received the lens in two weeks with a perfect AF adjustment. The AFMA setting for this lens now is 0.
My points are:
If your camera body has AFMA feature, you don't need to worry about the AF issue.
If your camera body has no AFMA feature and you don't mind to send the lens back to Sigma maintenance center, the AF issue of this lens is also not an issue for you.
Otherwise, Canon 50mm F1.4 might be a better choice.
 
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I've used both the Sigma and Canon ver. of the 50mm 1.4. The Canon is definitely consistent and efficient. If a shot wasn't quite in focus, it was probably my own faut and not the lens'. But image quality and sharpness... the Sigma is way better; unfortunately, I think some of you would agree that the Sigma is a hit and miss. Sigma doesn't do a great job with quality control. Some people get front or back focusing issues, especially when you shoot anything below ~f/2.8. I ended up with a bad copy and I still have not sent it in to get it fixed or replaced. It is more expensive but I would definitely go for the sigma if I could test a few before I buy one.
 
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cliffwang said:
I have Sigma 50mm F1.4. The AFMA for this lens was 13 when I just bought it. I believe it would be a problem if I used it on a body has no AFMA feature. With AF adjustment, the lens is perfect. Few months ago I sent it back to Sigma maintenance center to adjust AF. I received the lens in two weeks with a perfect AF adjustment. The AFMA setting for this lens now is 0.
My points are:
If your camera body has AFMA feature, you don't need to worry about the AF issue.
If your camera body has no AFMA feature and you don't mind to send the lens back to Sigma maintenance center, the AF issue of this lens is also not an issue for you.
Otherwise, Canon 50mm F1.4 might be a better choice.
Unfortunately AFMA is not that simple for this lens. Some of the lenses exhibit "schitzophrenic" AF.
See Roger's Take here:
http://www.lensrentals.com/rent/canon/lenses/normal-range/sigma-50mm-f1.4-dg-hsm-for-canon
If you AFMA one of the lenses that exhibit this characteristic...you will throw the focus out at one end or the other.
He is a very reliable source and I am sure he has handled many of these lenses....his word weighs heavy for me.
That being said...I have a Sigma and have not really had a consistent focus problem. I get mostly keeper.
Really love the lens, especially considering what my other choices are for AF lenses.
 
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I have shot with Canon 50mm 1.4, Sigma 50mm 1.4 and the Canon 50mm 1.2 and can say that the latter two are in a different league. I was disappointed with the canon 1.4 from many perspectives. If you have the money, the best solution is the Canon 1.2...it just has some extra contrast and color...aka "pop"...to the photos but the Sigma is a solid performer.

Have had a Sigma 50mm 1.4 for several years now and always had problems with it on my 50d. Despite tweaking the AFMA I could never seem to get it right and the autofocus would simply miss at anything wider than f2.

On my (still new to me) 5Diii it's night and day. Adjusted the AFMA and have been shooting away since with great results. I have shot several weddings now with the lens (didn't dare use it for weddings before) and have had good success with both servo and one shot autofocus.

I second the notion that sigma update the 50mm 1.4 to join the art line, the 35mm 1.4 has gotten great reviews!
 
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infared said:
cliffwang said:
I have Sigma 50mm F1.4. The AFMA for this lens was 13 when I just bought it. I believe it would be a problem if I used it on a body has no AFMA feature. With AF adjustment, the lens is perfect. Few months ago I sent it back to Sigma maintenance center to adjust AF. I received the lens in two weeks with a perfect AF adjustment. The AFMA setting for this lens now is 0.
My points are:
If your camera body has AFMA feature, you don't need to worry about the AF issue.
If your camera body has no AFMA feature and you don't mind to send the lens back to Sigma maintenance center, the AF issue of this lens is also not an issue for you.
Otherwise, Canon 50mm F1.4 might be a better choice.
Unfortunately AFMA is not that simple for this lens. Some of the lenses exhibit "schitzophrenic" AF.
See Roger's Take here:
http://www.lensrentals.com/rent/canon/lenses/normal-range/sigma-50mm-f1.4-dg-hsm-for-canon
If you AFMA one of the lenses that exhibit this characteristic...you will throw the focus out at one end or the other.
He is a very reliable source and I am sure he has handled many of these lenses....his word weighs heavy for me.
That being said...I have a Sigma and have not really had a consistent focus problem. I get mostly keeper.
Really love the lens, especially considering what my other choices are for AF lenses.
I heard that before I purchased Sigma 50mm F1.4. However, I also read some comments from other websites about the improvement of this lens for its new version from 2011. Some people mention that the new version has much better QC and improved AF. That's why I decided to give it a try last year. I thought the worth case was returning the lens. Fortunately I gave it a try. The lens is excellent and I am very happy with it.
 
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I got the Sigma 1.4 recently after a few years of shooting with the nifty fifty. Shooting on full frame, no problems, good focus right out of the box. Overall very good image quality, the 1.8 can't touch it at 1.8 obviously. Also, no more pentagon-shaped bokeh. Haven't had any AF issues - the 5DIII locks it in fine even in low light.

I was calibrating it recently, and noticed that it only needed focus adjustment at 1 meter focusing distance and closer. As I pulled away, it was sharp at 0, so I just kept it at 0 and will be more careful with focus up close. (Edit, I wonder if that's the schizophrenic focus that was mentioned. I should try it at longer distances...)
 
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Mt Spokane Photography said:
The Sigma 50mm f/1.4 is optimized for APS-C , while the Canon 50mm f/1.4 performs better on FF.
Reasons to upgrade are
F/1.4
Better build and reliability.

Downside to Sigma - commonly have AF issues (for those that check) and need to go to Sigma for adjustment. None of them have AF that is outstanding.

+1....I turfed out my EF 50 f/1.4 and replaced it with the Sigma 50 f/1.4. What a wasted exercise. Not only was the Sigma heavier, it took up more room in my bag than the beautifully compact Canon 50. Should have kept the Canon...

I shoot on FF and found the Sigma AF erratic to the point where I just couldn't trust it on jobs. Which means I never used it. When it nailed focus it was terrific, but the inconsistency was the killer. It's gone now, replaced with a 40 f/2.8 which I also hardly use. But at least it's small, dependable...a lens I can trust.

Really, I'm a zooms shooter with primes kicking in at the long telephoto end. The new 24-70 f/2.8II is such an extraordinary piece of glass that primes in this range seem redundant. I'm even looking at disposing of my 24 f/1.4II because there is little need for it any more. A f/2.8 or even slower lens is not the liability it used to be when we were tied to 100iso if we wanted quality files. Now with our new best friend,ISO, carefully shot/exposed images done on sky high iso settings can deliver superb commercial quality files.

-PW
 
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bseitz234 said:
drjlo said:
Brendon said:
I second the notion that sigma update the 50mm 1.4 to join the art line
I third that, hoping it would happen if enough people kept saying it :'( Dare I even wish for f/1.2?
1.0, like the 50L from the days of yore? ::)
F/1 as the EF 50 replacement? Sure...and will you relish the weight and price penalty? Make it an f/2 but get the optics perfect and the weight realistic and the pricepoint somewhere where volume sales would happen. But the L 50? Now that might be a viable candidate for heavyweight, high priced f/1 goodness...

-PW
 
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pwp said:
Mt Spokane Photography said:
The Sigma 50mm f/1.4 is optimized for APS-C , while the Canon 50mm f/1.4 performs better on FF.
Reasons to upgrade are
F/1.4
Better build and reliability.

Downside to Sigma - commonly have AF issues (for those that check) and need to go to Sigma for adjustment. None of them have AF that is outstanding.

+1....I turfed out my EF 50 f/1.4 and replaced it with the Sigma 50 f/1.4. What a wasted exercise. Not only was the Sigma heavier, it took up more room in my bag than the beautifully compact Canon 50. Should have kept the Canon...

I shoot on FF and found the Sigma AF erratic to the point where I just couldn't trust it on jobs. Which means I never used it. When it nailed focus it was terrific, but the inconsistency was the killer. It's gone now, replaced with a 40 f/2.8 which I also hardly use. But at least it's small, dependable...a lens I can trust.

Really, I'm a zooms shooter with primes kicking in at the long telephoto end. The new 24-70 f/2.8II is such an extraordinary piece of glass that primes in this range seem redundant. I'm even looking at disposing of my 24 f/1.4II because there is little need for it any more. A f/2.8 or even slower lens is not the liability it used to be when we were tied to 100iso if we wanted quality files. Now with our new best friend,ISO, carefully shot/exposed images done on sky high iso settings can deliver superb commercial quality files.

-PW

I sold my 50L and 24 L II once I got the 24-70 II.
As you say, for sharpness, it's better.
It's also more modern and auto-focuses quicker.

ET
 
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I haven't used the canon 1.4, but my sigma 1.4 is awesome - now that it's on a FF. On the 7D it was so-so, with some awesome shots, but too many soft or poor focus photos (about 30-70). Now on a FF, it's spectacular. Focus is spot on every time, maybe a little soft a 1.4, but even at 1.8 it's superb - like a completely different lens. I was always having to redo the AF cal on the 7D, but haven't had to touch that since going FF.
I also like that it's a 77mm filter size - since most of my other lenses are the same.
 
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