50mp Cameras Coming in March [CR1]

[wockawocka]

I gave up waiting and bought a 645z

Don't hate me.

Hope you will relate you experience with the 645z in future posts.
You know we are all secretly jealous....right?

Here you go Erlj

http://chrisgilesphotography.com/blog/pentax-645z-review-pt1-the-journey/

 

[privatebydesign]

I gave up waiting and bought a 645z

Don't hate me.

Hope you will relate you experience with the 645z in future posts.
You know we are all secretly jealous....right?

Here you go Erlj

http://chrisgilesphotography.com/blog/pentax-645z-review-pt1-the-journey/

Thanks for that series Chris, it looks very interesting on a quick scan through. I must be honest I always liked the idea of the 645Z, I just don't have justification for it yet. What are your thoughts on lighting? Scratch that, I just read section 5!

 

[wockawocka]

I gave up waiting and bought a 645z

Don't hate me.

Hope you will relate you experience with the 645z in future posts.
You know we are all secretly jealous....right?

Here you go Erlj

http://chrisgilesphotography.com/blog/pentax-645z-review-pt1-the-journey/

Thanks for that series Chris, it looks very interesting on a quick scan through. I must be honest I always liked the idea of the 645Z, I just don't have justification for it yet. What are your thoughts on lighting?

Do you mean flash system? I covered that in detail on of the chapters, for all intents and purposes if you had all Pentax 540 flashes, the functionality and wireless ability is comparable to the 600EX setup.

The Cactus V6's wireless trigger are legendary in that I only need to buy one Pentax flash and I can use the Canon 600's anyway. Just in manual only for the external ones. But I rarely use ETTL on the external strobe anyway.

Scratch that I just read that you'd read the lighting section rofl!

It's a really decent camera overall.

 

[dak723]

I know people that have bought Canon for gimmick features (WiFi) and people that have bought Nikon for IQ.

Don't know anyone personally that has recently bought Canon for IQ purposes.

The thing is, gimmicks will sell to the masses, more than IQ.

Don't know you personally (thank goodness...) but I bought the 6D as opposed to Nikon's similar FF offerings because I consider Canon's IQ to be superior. Bought an SL1 a couple months ago rather than the Nikon D3300 (i was able to compare the two) because I prefer the Canon's IQ. For people who look at actual photos rather than spec sheets, IQ is admittedly subjective, but I strongly prefer the look of Canon especially their ability to produce more pleasing colors. Also like their better contrast. In my opinion, the very poor color that I have seen with the Sony A7 models sample pics makes them rank even lower in IQ. I have noticed in reviews of the new Sony A7II that the reviewers consider the color dramatically improved. That may be a good sign for Sony, but just confirms how poor the color is in the original A7 models.

I wouldn't call color and contrast gimmicks.

 

[sdsr]

Don't know you personally (thank goodness...) but I bought the 6D as opposed to Nikon's similar FF offerings because I consider Canon's IQ to be superior. Bought an SL1 a couple months ago rather than the Nikon D3300 (i was able to compare the two) because I prefer the Canon's IQ. For people who look at actual photos rather than spec sheets, IQ is admittedly subjective, but I strongly prefer the look of Canon especially their ability to produce more pleasing colors. Also like their better contrast. In my opinion, the very poor color that I have seen with the Sony A7 models sample pics makes them rank even lower in IQ. I have noticed in reviews of the new Sony A7II that the reviewers consider the color dramatically improved. That may be a good sign for Sony, but just confirms how poor the color is in the original A7 models.

I wouldn't call color and contrast gimmicks.

Well, no, but are you referring to unprocessed RAW files (which are easily tweaked in software), camera-generated JPEGs (which can be adjusted in-camera by adjusting a vast array of color/tone/sharpness/contrast settings), camera-generated JPEGs at default settings, or something else?

 

[Loswr]

For people who look at actual photos rather than spec sheets...

Wait, wait...you're saying that the ability of a camera system to take pictures actually matters? I hope you realize how foolish that sounds in an era where we can measure sensor performance on several metrics, then apply arbitrary, undisclosed weightings to those metrics to reduce them to a single overall score that provides what is really the only relevant bit of information that anyone needs to determine which camera is the best.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

In thinking about it, if I had $5K to spend I would do so on an high end lens like the Zeiss Otus 85mm rather than upgrading my 5DIII. My reasoning is that such a lens makes every one of my cameras instantly better. There is no doubt of this. That even includes my IDs II (that I use for time lapse sequences and landscape) and my 650D. It makes my videos better too. If I were to buy a 5DIV or or whatever they call it in the future or a IDx when the price drops, then that lens would make those cameras better too. Cameras will come and go on a fairly short 3-4 year life cycle because Canon and other manufacturers have to make a profit. But a high quality lens has a much, much longer life cycle.

Personally I'd suggest putting money first to a great ultra hi-res monitor, UHD at a min or better 5k for 16MP. Great color and uniformity with instant, 'free', 8-16MP 'prints' is pretty nice. Honestly, how many of the thousands of images people take ever get printed? It's too time consuming and costly and people don't have space to store 20,000 large prints.

But so often you see 15k in lenses, 8k in bodies and $150 for display. I'm not sure that really makes sense.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Definitely on the gimmick list is in-camera hdr as this is done better in real post with dedicated software.

By that logic, in-camera JPG conversion is also a 'gimmick'.

No, because you cannot "easily substitute" the reduction in card space and jpeg makes sense if you need sooc pictures asap.

Is selecting sRAW from the menu really all that difficult? In-camera HDR then makes sense if you need SOOC HDR pictures ASAP.

although sRAW doesn't help the buffer too much, but jpg does so it's not quite a replacement, plus sRAW has a lot less detail than a full res JPG (even as waxy as the Canon jpg engine is)

 

[Mitch.Conner]

For people who look at actual photos rather than spec sheets...

Wait, wait...you're saying that the ability of a camera system to take pictures actually matters? I hope you realize how foolish that sounds in an era where we can measure sensor performance on several metrics, then apply arbitrary, undisclosed weightings to those metrics to reduce them to a single overall score that provides what is really the only relevant bit of information that anyone needs to determine which camera is the best.

But what do you really think?

 

[Marsu42]

Definitely on the gimmick list is in-camera hdr as this is done better in real post with dedicated software.

By that logic, in-camera JPG conversion is also a 'gimmick'.

No, because you cannot "easily substitute" the reduction in card space and jpeg makes sense if you need sooc pictures asap.

Is selecting sRAW from the menu really all that difficult? In-camera HDR then makes sense if you need SOOC HDR pictures ASAP.

Well, my rough guess is that the demand for sooc jpeg is higher than in-camera hdr ... as for sraw, it's a bad tradeoff between resolution and file size if you just need a large jpeg.

 

[l_d_allan]

Re: It will depend on the image dynamic range and shadow detail.

If Canon will produce a sensor with the dynamic range and relatively noiseless shadows of the Sony sensor, I will consider it. I did consider buying the Nikon D800 when it was first available. That was not because of the resolution which is excessive for most usage but for the quality of the image shadow details.
I really don't have much use for such high-resolution image files although I could change my mind if the dynamic range is an improvement.

Agree.
Actually, I'd be happy if Canon could work out a license deal (like Nikon) and use something very similar to the Exmor 36 mpix.

 

[erjlphoto]

I gave up waiting and bought a 645z

Don't hate me.

Hope you will relate you experience with the 645z in future posts.
You know we are all secretly jealous....right?

Here you go Erlj

http://chrisgilesphotography.com/blog/pentax-645z-review-pt1-the-journey/

Very thorough and down to earth review. Your portrat photography is also quite inspiring.
Don't think I can justify a MF format system as a hobbyist, but it is nice to see how good a camera can be...in the right hands.

Thanks for posting your link.