5D Mark III Full Spec List?

[EchoLocation]

Specs are as are not bad, but they already seem like Canon could have delivered them a while back and the price increase of $800 is insanity if these specs are to the T.

This is exactly what I'm thinking. The 5DIII is my DREAM camera. But until I turn this hobby into a profession I just cannot justify paying more than 2500ish for a new camera. I can buy sooo many other things for 3500 dollars(I'm almost at an M9 by then.)
The specs just seem like what I've been wanting in the 5DII for all this time, not like some revolutionary new features that blow my mind and make me consider spending amounts i've never considered spending on anything other than a car.
I don't see the reason why after 3.5 years the technology hasn't improved enough to make similar specs to these in a 2000-2800 dollar body.

 

[sublime LightWorks]

More details released from French magazine article

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1032&thread=40776144

Note a few things from the French article:

Always the best/strongest
Canon interviewed thousands of users and has used their suggestions.
100% viewfinder coverage
More realistic colours
150000 shutter actuation life rather than 100000 with the 5DMKII

Revised AF
-Uses the same 61 point AF module of the 1DX usable up to f5.6

-Canon has chosen to concentrate on image quality rather than image size (megapixels)

-With ISO becoming more important to photographers and videographers the ISO is now up to 25600 (with boost up to 100200)
-This new sensor captures images without moiré or aliasing
-The benchmark of the MKII is broken with the new Digic 5 processor.

Professional technology
The dual card slots allow mirroring or separating your JPEGs and RAW files.

Our recommendation
-We would have liked to have had a pop up flash

Note the f/5.6 for the AF....means no AF at f/8 just like the 1Dx.

 

[marekjoz]

Seriously... has Canon introduced full-time AF (autofocus) during video shooting starting from 5D Mark III ? I have been longing for this feature for a couple years now.

I highly doubt it, there are too many situations that you would want manual control for that. I do suspect there are some video features that we don't know about just yet, as the spec list didn't talk much about that aspect of it.

OK. Having the feature and not using it is fine. But not offering the feature is a total different story. Just think how seldom you have been switching to manual. I guess most people stay on AF most of the time.

And the argument would be while all point-and-shoots, Micro 4/3s, and Nikon have it for a couple years, why is Canon not offering it?

hows this for food for thought... Lets say they get it in there... it's finicky, but it's there... Lets say you are filming your kids recital or even better, lets say you film your kids graduation outdoors... the kid is walking across the stage, all of a sudden a bird flys by, the AF freaks out, focuses on the new object, you lose focus that critical moment, then it's over... I've seen a lot of video cameras that do continuous AF do just this... The noise and grumblings about the feature would be so great it would be deafening... And secondly, the 60D, 7d, 5d2, etc... when you have IS lenses, you can hear the freaking IS buzzing in your shots... if you have regular lenses, you're going to hear whirling of the lens, even USM has some movement noise, all that's going to be picked up by the video feed... so unless you then have an external mic or get rid of all on board mic audio, it creates more havoc then good. In theory it sounds good, but this camera, in particular, is geared for pro's and semi pros and advanced amateurs... Even the weakest indi shooter wants their own control. If you want a dumbed down video camera, buy a $200 walmart special.

Again, you are thinking in a pro-Canon way.
I have been using a Canon T1i with MF video of my kid. You wouldn't understand how hard it has been.

Don't find birds flying through as an excuse because there are no birds in 99% of the time.

Yes I am a pro shooter and "pro" canon, and I fully understand where you're getting at... I'm just explaining there are more liabilities and roadblocks that is to be hand, let alone the fact that it can go through more lenses AF motors even more quickly and depending on the lens, it could be more bad than good. Canon TYPICALLY dont half a$$ things and if there is something that could cause them any more bad press, they may be more inclined to not partake.

Although knowing advantages, I'm not sure if I would use it at all in fact. Why? Because it should be really much better than manual (if you know howto).
1 - battery use. Imagine IS and USM working constantly.
2 - quality of it. Will it work really fine with narrow DOF without constant hunting?
3 - neccessity. There are indeed rather rare cases, where it would help me and not disturb. In most cases maybe not bird but there is always something (person, dog, wall, etc.) what would make AF out.

I find high ISO more important and for this I'd pay. Why? Yo can close lens a bit, get wider DOF and don't care. If you wish great control of focus with lens open, then better do it with manual focus with viewfinder on a screen.
Presetting focus distances (like D.Sim) mentioned makes more sense for me as well.
Just my 2c.

 

[Diko]

More details released from French magazine article

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1032&thread=40776144

Thanks for the update with that link.

However now I am devastated:

Always the best/strongest
Canon interviewed thousands of users and has used their suggestions.
100% viewfinder coverage
More realistic colours
150000 shutter actuation life rather than 100000 with the 5DMKII
Revised AF
-Uses the same 61 point AF module of the 1DX usable up to f5.6
-Canon has chosen to concentrate on image quality rather than image size (megapixels)
-With ISO becoming more important to photographers and videographers the ISO is now up to 25600 (with boost up to 100200)
-This new sensor captures images without moiré or aliasing
-The benchmark of the MKII is broken with the new Digic 5 processor.

* - AF is as in 1Dx - cool.
* - This new sensor captures images without moiré or aliasing - great!
* - More realistic colours - where on the viewfinder or where?
And if the word is for IQ - that has to be awaited in order to be compared.
if what Canon provides (on book - theoretically) I might go for Nikon D800 - if test shows what I expect to see. BETTER performance in very low scenes.

So far as from rumors point of view: EPIC Fail! :-( No game changer. Nothing.

Specs are as are not bad, but they already seem like Canon could have delivered them a while back and the price increase of $800 is insanity if these specs are to the T.

This is exactly what I'm thinking. The 5DIII is my DREAM camera. But until I turn this hobby into a profession I just cannot justify paying more than 2500ish for a new camera. I can buy sooo many other things for 3500 dollars(I'm almost at an M9 by then.)
The specs just seem like what I've been wanting in the 5DII for all this time, not like some revolutionary new features that blow my mind and make me consider spending amounts i've never considered spending on anything other than a car.
I don't see the reason why after 3.5 years the technology hasn't improved enough to make similar specs to these in a 2000-2800 dollar body.

Totally agree. Compared to old and enemy camp. And extra $ cost. Unrealistic choice. :-( If Canon have released 5D and then 1Dx, situation would be differend due to human nature

 

[sublime LightWorks]

More from the French article:

Add to that what they call a "true silent mode" in which burst mode goes down to 3fps.

3.2inches screen at 1,040,000 dots

The same AF module as the one in the 1Dx

They specify that the censor is a brand new one and as danharperphotography says above, they claim it captures images without moiré or aliasing

Auto ISO up to 25600

Digic5+ can burst out 16270 Large jpg at 6fps before it fills up (Is there a card that can actually contain that many?)

Dual slot cards CF and SD

They also mention an HDR Mode, Smart Auto, Image addition?, in camera editing and micro adjust per seial number but don't go into details about any of them.

Microphone and headphone jack, optical connection and continuous or progressive timecode?, ALL-I individual image encoding, wireless video release

 

[nighstar]

Specs are as are not bad, but they already seem like Canon could have delivered them a while back and the price increase of $800 is insanity if these specs are to the T.

This is exactly what I'm thinking. The 5DIII is my DREAM camera. But until I turn this hobby into a profession I just cannot justify paying more than 2500ish for a new camera. I can buy sooo many other things for 3500 dollars(I'm almost at an M9 by then.)
The specs just seem like what I've been wanting in the 5DII for all this time, not like some revolutionary new features that blow my mind and make me consider spending amounts i've never considered spending on anything other than a car.
I don't see the reason why after 3.5 years the technology hasn't improved enough to make similar specs to these in a 2000-2800 dollar body.

+1

this camera is considered a prosumer/semi-pro camera, but its pricing puts it out of reach for a lot of prosumers/semi-pros. :/

 

[Positron]

I can buy sooo many other things for 3500 dollars(I'm almost at an M9 by then.)

Just *another* $3500 short! (Since you're basing this on retail price.)

 

[K-amps]

Specs are as are not bad, but they already seem like Canon could have delivered them a while back and the price increase of $800 is insanity if these specs are to the T.

This is exactly what I'm thinking. The 5DIII is my DREAM camera. But until I turn this hobby into a profession I just cannot justify paying more than 2500ish for a new camera. I can buy sooo many other things for 3500 dollars(I'm almost at an M9 by then.)
The specs just seem like what I've been wanting in the 5DII for all this time, not like some revolutionary new features that blow my mind and make me consider spending amounts i've never considered spending on anything other than a car.
I don't see the reason why after 3.5 years the technology hasn't improved enough to make similar specs to these in a 2000-2800 dollar body.

The answer is corporate and investor demands The justification is weak dollar / R&D cost / Tsunami and the list goes on...

 

[Positron]

Anybody knows if it has 60fps?

Doesn't say.

No full specs yet.

I'm really hoping it does slow motion. My plan was to sell the 7D and replace it with the 5D mk III, but I use the slow motion all the time. Hmmm. Decisions....

A french magazine appears to say 30p is the max.

That magazine article (if you're talking about the one linked by Smith above) doesn't say 30p max explicitly; all it says is 30p at Full HD (1080p). Which admittedly would be par for the course, but doesn't in any way rule out 720/60p.

 

[Rishaar]

It has been said before, but it seems the post is lost in the ocean of others !

the jump in the retail price from 2700 USD (at the time of the release) to 3500 USD is entirely due to the currency rate.
3 years ago, the US Dollar was around 105 to 110 Japanese Yen, since last year it plunged to around 75 / 80.
So in Japan 3500 USD now means the same as 2700 USD at the time, if not cheaper 8)
Selling the MK3 cheaper in US wouldn't make any sense for a Japanese company selling a made in Japan product...

So please people, get mad at bankers on this one, Canon is NOT milking the cow ;D

 

[Chewy734]

2 more hours!!! Then the elation or disappointment begins... my wallet wants to know which.

 

[Smith]

I would guess the "more realistic colors" is referring to the LCD display.

More details released from French magazine article

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1032&thread=40776144

* - More realistic colours - where on the viewfinder or where?

 

[breningstall]

I hope those specs are right. While I'd prefer more than 6fps, I could live with it, and the enhanced autofocus would make a huge difference. I don't buy that DX can provide the same quality for sports shooters and I don't buy that a camera manufacturer can triple the megapixels on a sensor without impacting the quality (re: Nikon), especially when they're not doing that in their top of the line cameras. This camera could be a very nice compromise between all features at a remotely affordable price.

 

[randplaty]

It has been said before, but it seems the post is lost in the ocean of others !

the jump in the retail price from 2700 USD (at the time of the release) to 3500 USD is entirely due to the currency rate.
3 years ago, the US Dollar was around 105 to 110 Japanese Yen, since last year it plunged to around 75 / 80.
So in Japan 3500 USD now means the same as 2700 USD at the time, if not cheaper 8)
Selling the MK3 cheaper in US wouldn't make any sense for a Japanese company selling a made in Japan product...

So please people, get mad at bankers on this one, Canon is NOT milking the cow ;D

If this is true, I hate the FED and Ben Bernake.

 

[dcreisman]

Since it takes the LP-E6 battery, has anyone heard if it will take the BG-E7 Battery Grip???

 

[ers811]

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the jump in the retail price from 2700 USD (at the time of the release) to 3500 USD is entirely due to the currency rate.

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So please people, get mad at bankers on this one, Canon is NOT milking the cow ;D

Just to preface, I'm not trying to come off as a jerk here, but I can think of about a dozen factors driving exchange rates more than "evil bankers". Start with moron politicians who apparently learned economics from watching cartoons, then work your way down the list. Exchange rates are an EFFECT, they don't just get set first, they are along for the ride.

Again, no offense meant, but I think after years of being bombarded with little drive-by comments like that, people eventually get a very misguided views of reality yet don't really know why they feel a certain way. And I have the misguided urge to correct someone on the interweb! Lol

Now imagine you are Japanese buying stuff from the USA. You're a happy camper!


Now a totally separate point: how did Nikon avoid the exchange rate? They didn't. I will wager that:
1. There are features we don't know about yet or
2. The rumored price is wrong.

 

[XanuFoto]

I like the spec very much and would probably land up buying it. But I still cannot believe how Cnon can justify charging 500 dollars more than Nikon. Canon even makes their own sensor while Nikon depends on their sensors from Sony. Canon can make this unit a game changer by charging less then 3000 dolars.

 

[awinphoto]

Since it takes the LP-E6 battery, has anyone heard if it will take the BG-E7 Battery Grip???

Like the capitalists they are, they typically dont reuse battery grips. Also the leaked grip online has an extra AF controller button, like the 1dx, so the old one prob wont work

 

[Smith]

People are quick to point to exchange rates. As it has been pointed out many times Nikon doesn't seem to have an issue selling a superior spec'ed DSLR at $3,000. Also consider that a very similar spec'ed 5D Mark II was selling for $1999 over the holidays and not much higher now. If Canon requires $3,500 to make a profit they must have been losing money selling a 5D Mark II for $1999 (unlikely). The 24-70 II is selling for $1000 higher than the older version. I doubt Canon is selling the older version at a loss. Yes, the newer version is sharper and undoubtedly will have tighter tolerances and lower yields. I doubt that accounts for a $1K increase in cost.

The same specious arguments are used to justify the current astronomical rise is gas prices. People will point to fears over the situation in Iran. The truth is that Iran accounts for an negligible percentage of oil production in the world's supply. Price gouging and greed is the usual culprit behind large price jumps like these.

It has been said before, but it seems the post is lost in the ocean of others !

the jump in the retail price from 2700 USD (at the time of the release) to 3500 USD is entirely due to the currency rate.
3 years ago, the US Dollar was around 105 to 110 Japanese Yen, since last year it plunged to around 75 / 80.
So in Japan 3500 USD now means the same as 2700 USD at the time, if not cheaper 8)
Selling the MK3 cheaper in US wouldn't make any sense for a Japanese company selling a made in Japan product...

So please people, get mad at bankers on this one, Canon is NOT milking the cow ;D

No. YOU are the one that failed to see the "lost post".

D800 -> 91k metering, flagship af. 36MP. prob 14 stop DR = $2700
5DIII -> 64 zone metering, ?flagship af, 22mp, prob less than 12 stop DR (I hope to god I'm wrong) = $3500.

DOES THAT MAKE IT CLEAR?

Save us the crap about USD/Yen and keep the brainwash to yourself. FYI, Nikon got hit harder by tsunami than Canon did.

 

[awinphoto]

I like the spec very much and would probably land up buying it. But I still cannot believe how Cnon can justify charging 500 dollars more than Nikon. Canon even makes their own sensor while Nikon depends on their sensors from Sony. Canon can make this unit a game changer by charging less then 3000 dolars.

You know, while I'm a pro and in no way would have recommended it at all as I cannot have too much of a blow to the bottom line, Canon did say in the french article that they took recommendations from lots of people, and I know a lot of pro's who think this way, but much like the 1dx/5d3 has product differentiation, many pro's probably are watching the current climate in professional photography... more and more amateurs are picking up better and better cameras, and while I'm not here to spark a pro/amateur debate, but I could see some pro's asking for higher prices to help "thin the herd" sort of speak. I am not saying this could explain for some of the price increase, but i'm not saying it couldn't explain for it as well. Dont kill the messenger.