5D mk III: ISO 25600...Stunning!!!!!

[Jamesy]

Disclaimer: I have not tried CS5, Topaz & NIK NR on the RAW's yet... Just LR4

Does LR4 already support the 5D3 files? I just checked my copy of LR3 and there is no update for the 5D3 yet and I have heard there will not be one forthcoming.

 

[K-amps]

Disclaimer: I have not tried CS5, Topaz & NIK NR on the RAW's yet... Just LR4

Does LR4 already support the 5D3 files? I just checked my copy of LR3 and there is no update for the 5D3 yet and I have heard there will not be one forthcoming.

My mistake. I used CS5/ ACR to render the RAW and apply NR, not LR4. I did not use CS5's NR in PP but only while opening the Adobe camera RAW.

Did jpegs only in LR, it did not recognize RAW's. I did the RAW test in CS5 which uses similar NR engine, it was able to pull the CR2 files, and I have not yet loaded the software that came with the 5D3 yet. Hope it helps.

 

[K-amps]

I have shot the 5d3 in ISO 25,600 and while the jpeg is very useable, I cannot get the same level of clarity from the RAW using LR4 noise reduction. I can dial up the NR more, but then the image gets much softer than the jpeg.... OTOH, if I apply slight amounts of NR to the jpeg, it gets very clean and clear as well...

Kind of a mixed result since I love the flexibility of exposure control in RAW...

Disclaimer: I have not tried CS5, Topaz & NIK NR on the RAW's yet... Just LR4

This is peculiar. The opposite would be expected, of course.

I wonder if it has to do with the RAW conversion into LR4? I've been impressed with the sharpening/NR since it was added in LR3, it's all I use right now as I almost always get better results than Dfine.

My mistake. I used CS5/ ACR to render the RAW and apply NR, not LR4. Once image opened in CS5, no further (PS) NR was applied.


But yes, I did find it peculier that the jpeg was cleaner at first pass.

 

[awinphoto]

Could it be that the ACR is still a beta and not a full version release? Perhaps it's not fully ready to handle the high ISO NR? How does it look in DPP as that is the only official software out at this time that is full release to handle 5d3 files? This morning I had an update for PS5 to "upgrade" to ACR 6.6 but since the 5d3 beta is 6.7, I didn't update it. Perhaps when the full 6.7 comes out it will be better?

 

[NutsAndBolts]

Here are some sample shots from my 5D3 with 24-105mm f4.0 L

ISO-20000


ISO-20k

 

[NutsAndBolts]

And at ISO 25600, both shot handheld, with little lighting in the room (a single CFL ligth):


ISO-25600

 

[NutsAndBolts]

This one was shot with a flash (430 EX), ISO 100:


ISO-100

 

[JR]

Not bad indeed!

 

[K-amps]

Could it be that the ACR is still a beta and not a full version release? Perhaps it's not fully ready to handle the high ISO NR? How does it look in DPP as that is the only official software out at this time that is full release to handle 5d3 files? This morning I had an update for PS5 to "upgrade" to ACR 6.6 but since the 5d3 beta is 6.7, I didn't update it. Perhaps when the full 6.7 comes out it will be better?

I think I have ACR 6.6. Have never used or installed DPP. Can't say.

EDIT: Just checked, I have infact 6.7 . So it all makes sense now.

 

[JR]

From what I was able to try, LR4 which has the latest version of ACR has much better NR then LR3 for details...

 

[awinphoto]

Could it be that the ACR is still a beta and not a full version release? Perhaps it's not fully ready to handle the high ISO NR? How does it look in DPP as that is the only official software out at this time that is full release to handle 5d3 files? This morning I had an update for PS5 to "upgrade" to ACR 6.6 but since the 5d3 beta is 6.7, I didn't update it. Perhaps when the full 6.7 comes out it will be better?

I think I have ACR 6.6. Have never used or installed DPP. Can't say.

ACR 6.6 isn't currently supporting Canon 5d 3 files... Ironically is supports Nikons D800, but for what it's worth... The 6.7 beta (you would have to go to adobe labs website and download the beta... isn't the full version but allows you to play with the 5d3 in photoshop. Still needs some work but not bad. I would install DPP and give it a try because until adobe releases ACR to officially support the 5d 3 in a full release, you may get funky results in 6.6

 

[awinphoto]

Could it be that the ACR is still a beta and not a full version release? Perhaps it's not fully ready to handle the high ISO NR? How does it look in DPP as that is the only official software out at this time that is full release to handle 5d3 files? This morning I had an update for PS5 to "upgrade" to ACR 6.6 but since the 5d3 beta is 6.7, I didn't update it. Perhaps when the full 6.7 comes out it will be better?

I think I have ACR 6.6. Have never used or installed DPP. Can't say.

In order to have gotten ACR 6.7 you would have gone to http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/cameraraw6-7/?tabID=details#tabTop This is the one, while a beta, "supports" the 5d3 and 1dx

 

[K-amps]

Couple of shots at 25600. First jpg with zero NR (except camera NR). Second is RAW that was processed in ACR 6.7 with Luminosiy NR = 47.

100% crop. No resizing

Judge for yourself how good the jpeg is on the noise.

The color seems a bit off on the RAW, could be a color profile or 6.7 beta issue... can't say nor have I researched this more.

 

[JR]

Wow! I am impressed man! Both the jpg and the RAW are very good (except for the color of the raw of course...)

Wow...

 

[K-amps]

Wow! I am impressed man! Both the jpg and the RAW are very good (except for the color of the raw of course...)

Wow...

I was at my daughter's musical an hour ago... tooks some snaps at various ISO's with 70-200 mk.II with a 2x iii @ 400mm

unfortunatly ISO "only" 12800 when I checked ;D.

The pic has been PP'ed. Resized etc.

 

[Dylan777]

Wow! I am impressed man! Both the jpg and the RAW are very good (except for the color of the raw of course...)

Wow...

I was at my daughter's musical an hour ago... tooks some snaps at various ISO's with 70-200 mk.II with a 2x iii @ 400mm

unfortunatly ISO "only" 12800 when I checked ;D.

The pic has been PP'ed. Resized etc.

Looks good K-AMP....can't wait for mine to be here tomorrow

 

[Bosman]

Awesome....can't wait to attach 50mm f1.4 to this camera....IQ should be great if bring it down to f2 to 2.8

Me too but I hope the 50 1.4 AF motor is strong enough to keep up with the 5d3 AF system... I've had lenses struggle to keep up with the 7D and this is supposed to be better/faster... whoa nelly

The 50 1.2 is too slow for the 1D IV, the 1.4 is faster, but it'll probably struggle.

On topic, not at all impressed. I think the really S___ty images probably have something to do with that.

I've had the 50 1.2 struggle to keep up with my 7D (rented it, one of the lenses that doesn't work well with it)... I have the 50 1.4 and it's faster but even at that, I have to almost remind myself to not over do the lens and let it catch up at times... The 1.2 would give false focus confirmations so it would say it was in focus when it wasn't... I have no patience with that... the 5d3 and 50 1.2 may be a doomed relationship 8) The sample images are across the board... Some better than others, but the objective ones show the technical quality (sharpness in raw files, color, etc) the rest you kinda have to take with a grain of salt for now I suppose.

I do not recommend using the F1.2/1.4 lenses in ai servo they hunt alot. Change it to single shot and it locks on pretty fast. These high speed glass lenses are super refined with the smallest movement meaning they are out of focus so yes the focus systems are slower as a result but the images, god the images are amazing. I had an 85 1.2 version I and sold it but man i wish i had a version 2. I had a 35 f1.4 and sold that because i didn't use it enough to justify having it. One piece of glass i know id use a lot is a 24 1.4 II. That will be the next lens for me. I have the 50 1.2 and it is incredible. As i said these specialty lenses never use in servo mode. Try it you will see what i am talking about. Stick to single shot.

 

[Bosman]

Wow! I am impressed man! Both the jpg and the RAW are very good (except for the color of the raw of course...)

Wow...

I was at my daughter's musical an hour ago... tooks some snaps at various ISO's with 70-200 mk.II with a 2x iii @ 400mm

unfortunatly ISO "only" 12800 when I checked ;D.

The pic has been PP'ed. Resized etc.

Beautiful shot. If i had a child id be shooting constantly

 

[JR]

Wow! I am impressed man! Both the jpg and the RAW are very good (except for the color of the raw of course...)

Wow...

I was at my daughter's musical an hour ago... tooks some snaps at various ISO's with 70-200 mk.II with a 2x iii @ 400mm

unfortunatly ISO "only" 12800 when I checked ;D.

The pic has been PP'ed. Resized etc.

Well I must say WOW again K-Amps! Was that a JPG out of the camera or a RAW file out of the camera? I am sure re-assured that you seem to be getting great result while others (see other thread on 5diii seem to struggle with image quality). This is one hell 12800 image for sure! I am sold!

 

[rhommel]

the photos look good k-amps! can't wait to get mine today.. this waiting game is killing me!