5D4 Sensor Defect Discovered

[Alex_M]

May I ask 5D Mark IV owners to repeat the test conducted on DPRAW enabled file (60Mb) and process in current version of Canon DPP? thank you.

 

[PhotoSimon]

Hi Alex,

I think DPP will only allow you push a file 3 stops, therefore the issue will not be visible

 

[RGF]

Defect or limitation?

 

[3kramd5]

Well first off, I'd like to say that about 90% of the posts made in this thread miss the point of why made this topic.

Probably. I surely did.

The fact of the matter is this: I've never seen any digital camera I've ever owned (all CMOS) that have exhibited this sort of strange 'bleeding' to adjacent pixels.

Was this ever explained? I don't have any desire to read the entire thread.

Puzzling 1DX Mark II Sensor Issue?

Here's a random unqualified idea: Given on-sensor ADC, could it like like rolling shutter (sensor moves relative to subject during readout), but of such low intensity that you don't see it unless you deconstruct the file?

 

[gruhl28]

I think this whole thread would have been different if the OP had presented it more like, "look at this, never seen something like this before, any idea what could be causing it?", more like the way Michael the Maven did in his similar post, instead of "this is a defect, I'm going to return the camera".

On the other hand, the fact that the OP presented it as a defect doesn't require other respondents to completely dismiss the issue, regardless of how unlikely it may be for someone to see it in real world shooting.

This isn't Trump vs. Clinton; why do people have to make so many exaggerated and extreme statements and get so belligerent?

 

[RayValdez360]

I think this whole thread would have been different if the OP had presented it more like, "look at this, never seen something like this before, any idea what could be causing it?", more like the way Michael the Maven did in his similar post, instead of "this is a defect, I'm going to return the camera".

On the other hand, the fact that the OP presented it as a defect doesn't require other respondents to completely dismiss the issue, regardless of how unlikely it may be for someone to see it in real world shooting.

This isn't Trump vs. Clinton; why do people have to make so many exaggerated and extreme statements and get so belligerent?

Everybody wants to be an a-hole online because no one can punch them in the face at the moment of a-holeness.

 

[privatebydesign]

Although roman's comment borderlined with trolling I do not believe it was intentional. I see he has many specialized/top Canon lenses in his signature. More than many fanboys. So it is just the fear of new. I have ordered a 5D4 and I too fear a little. NOT for the specs which I like a lot, NOT for what someone discovered at the limits of ... (mis)use but just on focusing. I will put it to very good test and when all is well I will put a 5D3 for sale so as to make the cost easier to swallow. But it was the same with my 5D2->5D3 transition. Finally I sold my 5D2 and enjoyed my 5D3 ALOT!

Roman has $10k worth of Canon stuff. More than Neuro I think.

Think again. He lists what he has and that includes a 600mm f4 IS MkII and a 1DX, combined over $10,000 for just those two.

Can you enlighten me on the relevance of this?

Can you explain your lack of obvious comprehension?

"Roman has $10k worth of Canon stuff. More than Neuro I think."

I was pointing out that that comment is incorrect. How is that difficult?

Now if you ask me what relevance either statement has to the OP then I gotta be honest and say I haven't a clue, but that wasn't the point of my post. The point of my post was to correct an incorrect statement, the relevance of that incorrect statement is not my concern, my concern is that fallacies are not perpetuated.

For the full picture of Neuro's gear is here http://community.the-digital-picture.com/member.php?u=1413&tab=visitor_messaging#visitor_messaging

 

[romanr74]

Although roman's comment borderlined with trolling I do not believe it was intentional. I see he has many specialized/top Canon lenses in his signature. More than many fanboys. So it is just the fear of new. I have ordered a 5D4 and I too fear a little. NOT for the specs which I like a lot, NOT for what someone discovered at the limits of ... (mis)use but just on focusing. I will put it to very good test and when all is well I will put a 5D3 for sale so as to make the cost easier to swallow. But it was the same with my 5D2->5D3 transition. Finally I sold my 5D2 and enjoyed my 5D3 ALOT!

Roman has $10k worth of Canon stuff. More than Neuro I think.

Think again. He lists what he has and that includes a 600mm f4 IS MkII and a 1DX, combined over $10,000 for just those two.

Can you enlighten me on the relevance of this?

Can you explain your lack of obvious comprehension?

"Roman has $10k worth of Canon stuff. More than Neuro I think."

I was pointing out that that comment is incorrect. How is that difficult?

Now if you ask me what relevance either statement has to the OP then I gotta be honest and say I haven't a clue, but that wasn't the point of my post. The point of my post was to correct an incorrect statement, the relevance of that incorrect statement is not my concern, my concern is that fallacies are not perpetuated.

For the full picture of Neuro's gear is here http://community.the-digital-picture.com/member.php?u=1413&tab=visitor_messaging#visitor_messaging

can you guys explain the relevance of the value of the gear one is owning...?

 

[3kramd5]

can you guys explain the relevance of the value of the gear one is owning...?

Depends on the context. In this case, I assume that ritholtz was reasoning that you are not trolling since you own some significant amount of gear, but you'd have to ask ritholtz.

 

[romanr74]

The point of my post was to correct an incorrect statement, the relevance of that incorrect statement is not my concern, my concern is that fallacies are not perpetuated.

This is a noble cause...

 

[neuroanatomist]

can you guys explain the relevance of the value of the gear one is owning...?

Well, it speaks to credibility. I have more gear than you, so I have more credibility than you. Bryan Carnathan (TDP) has more gear and thus credibility than me. LensRentals has oodles of credibility. Since the US Government likely has far more Canon gear than LensRentals, they have even more credibility. Ok, even I can't stomach that one. Or any of the rest of it.

This is a noble cause...

Give me the sixty-five, I'm on the job. ;D

 

[romanr74]

can you guys explain the relevance of the value of the gear one is owning...?

Well, it speaks to credibility. I have more gear than you, so I have more credibility than you. Bryan Carnathan (TDP) has more gear and thus credibility than me. LensRentals has oodles of credibility. Since the US Government likely has far more Canon gear than LensRentals, they have even more credibility. Ok, even I can't stomach that one. Or any of the rest of it.

Just placed a hell of an order at my local photo gear retailer...

 

[Mikehit]

Just placed a hell of an order at my local photo gear retailer...

That's either the 1200D with 55-250 for knockabout stuff or 1DX2 with the 600mm f4 for going paparazzi

 

[neuroanatomist]

can you guys explain the relevance of the value of the gear one is owning...?

Well, it speaks to credibility. I have more gear than you, so I have more credibility than you. Bryan Carnathan (TDP) has more gear and thus credibility than me. LensRentals has oodles of credibility. Since the US Government likely has far more Canon gear than LensRentals, they have even more credibility. Ok, even I can't stomach that one. Or any of the rest of it.

Just placed a hell of an order at my local photo gear retailer...

Humperdinck! Humperdinck! Humperdinck!

 

[romanr74]

can you guys explain the relevance of the value of the gear one is owning...?

Well, it speaks to credibility. I have more gear than you, so I have more credibility than you. Bryan Carnathan (TDP) has more gear and thus credibility than me. LensRentals has oodles of credibility. Since the US Government likely has far more Canon gear than LensRentals, they have even more credibility. Ok, even I can't stomach that one. Or any of the rest of it.

Just placed a hell of an order at my local photo gear retailer...

Humperdinck! Humperdinck! Humperdinck!

Iiifersuchtsbolze...

 

[3kramd5]

Since the US Government likely has far more Canon gear than LensRentals, they have even more credibility.

BH and Amazon have a heck of a lot, although it comes and goes.

 

[privatebydesign]

Although roman's comment borderlined with trolling I do not believe it was intentional. I see he has many specialized/top Canon lenses in his signature. More than many fanboys. So it is just the fear of new. I have ordered a 5D4 and I too fear a little. NOT for the specs which I like a lot, NOT for what someone discovered at the limits of ... (mis)use but just on focusing. I will put it to very good test and when all is well I will put a 5D3 for sale so as to make the cost easier to swallow. But it was the same with my 5D2->5D3 transition. Finally I sold my 5D2 and enjoyed my 5D3 ALOT!

Roman has $10k worth of Canon stuff. More than Neuro I think.

Think again. He lists what he has and that includes a 600mm f4 IS MkII and a 1DX, combined over $10,000 for just those two.

Can you enlighten me on the relevance of this?

Can you explain your lack of obvious comprehension?

"Roman has $10k worth of Canon stuff. More than Neuro I think."

I was pointing out that that comment is incorrect. How is that difficult?

Now if you ask me what relevance either statement has to the OP then I gotta be honest and say I haven't a clue, but that wasn't the point of my post. The point of my post was to correct an incorrect statement, the relevance of that incorrect statement is not my concern, my concern is that fallacies are not perpetuated.

For the full picture of Neuro's gear is here http://community.the-digital-picture.com/member.php?u=1413&tab=visitor_messaging#visitor_messaging

can you guys explain the relevance of the value of the gear one is owning...?

No. And I said I couldn't.

P.S. I get most of the Princess Bride comments but that one ws a new one for me, well done guys.........

 

[Refurb7]

We have met the enemy and he is us. Having to boost a photo 5 stops is not a sensor defect, something else is defective.

Thank you for stating the obvious. I stopped reading after, "I underexposed by 5 stops ..." Insanity.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Unfivestopliftable. You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

[quod]

Unfivestopliftable. You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

Stop correcting others. Nobody cares what you think you know.