5DIII will come

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According to PlanetMitch 5D blog there is going to be a 5dIII as well as the C300 compatible DSLR.
The camera at launch was a restyled 1d body.
Only problem was no timescale was given.
 
I'm so impressed with the 5DmkII the only thing about a 5DmkIII release that will make me happy is a further price drop in the mkII :-)

I say that now, but no doubt a souped up 5DmkIII at say half the price of a 1DX would no doubt put a lot of temptation my way....
 
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willrobb said:
I'm so impressed with the 5DmkII the only thing about a 5DmkIII release that will make me happy is a further price drop in the mkII

I think the 5DII produces wonderful images, and I use it much more often than my 7D. But everytime I use the 7D, I'm struck by how much better the AF system is, and how much room for imprevement there is in the 5DII's AF. Sadly, I firmly believe they Canon will intentionally hobble it to increase separation from the 1D X. Frame rate and build won't be enough, especially if the 5DIII is a high MP camera.
 
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I'm gonna stick with my previous comment.

The 5 series will replace the 1Ds range.

Commercially, the pro's have shown they are more than willing to buy 2 5D's over a 1Ds.
It has been the large megapixel camera of choice for a few years now - and i suspect Canon will want to keep that option as well.

I have no doubt it will come with a single Digic 5 and an improved AF. By that i mean maybe 8 full cross hairs and the centre focus point being a new double cross hair. It might even increase the 17 points the 7D has, but the remaining additional points would be a single line focus point.

The Megapixel will be 30+ and the frame rate will pretty much stay the same. Remember, this is a studio, landscape camera.

It may well come with a USB3 connection, or even Thunderbolt - but i suspect USB3. It'll need something like that for the data transfer of those large file sizes.

The weather sealing may be upped a bit and an ability to hold 2 CF cards as per 1DX.

Sadly, i think the price may well be in the £2500 bracket, which is an increase on 5D2 opening prices - for many, still a bargain and a price point that would still have pros going out and ordering in pairs...

As for release date - after the 1Dx is actually available to buy but in time for the summer wedding market.
So let's say May! The northern hemisphere has an amazingly large wedding market, and nothing like a new camera to use gets the great pics and referred sales in for new weddings from guests!

Did i mention all those tourists coming to London for the Olympics? Yep - they'll all want a 5D3 for that once in a life time trip!

Next Spring will be a great time to buy a Canon camera ;)
 
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neuroanatomist said:
I think the 5DII produces wonderful images, and I use it much more often than my 7D. But everytime I use the 7D, I'm struck by how much better the AF system is, and how much room for imprevement there is in the 5DII's AF. Sadly, I firmly believe they Canon will intentionally hobble it to increase separation from the 1D X. Frame rate and build won't be enough, especially if the 5DIII is a high MP camera.

+1 that. Even though many of us expect to see 7D's AF in the 5DIII, Canon is unlikely to offer that. An all 9 cross-type AF as in the 60D seems more likely to be used in the 5DIII, or maybe a completely new AF system, something between 60D's and 7D's AF.
 
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Yes, the Canon 5D mark III will come and hopefully soon.

Rebates are in action, stock is being pushed, some ridiculous deals are going on (5D2 body $1800). It seems that the 5D3 will be out in around 4-8 months.

Remember, announcements do come quick and swiftly. Canon release an event advert only a few weeks before and thus the 5D3 could come with a surprise.
 
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Personally I am not in a much hurry! My 5DMkII is fine! I would want a better AF system, (real) weather resistance and even better noise handling (we can never have enough I guess...). I cannot understand however why suddenly 21Mpixels are not enough. Just my opinion... To stay on topic 100% I would guess photokina (as has happened with the previous series 5 cameras...)
 
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tron said:
Personally I am not in a much hurry! My 5DMkII is fine! I would want a better AF system, (real) weather resistance and even better noise handling (we can never have enough I guess...). I cannot understand however why suddenly 21Mpixels are not enough. Just my opinion... To stay on topic 100% I would guess photokina (as has happened with the previous series 5 cameras...)

Good thing that banding does not bother you. Enjoy the Mk.II, 8) it has many thing s going for it.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
willrobb said:
I'm so impressed with the 5DmkII the only thing about a 5DmkIII release that will make me happy is a further price drop in the mkII

I think the 5DII produces wonderful images, and I use it much more often than my 7D. But everytime I use the 7D, I'm struck by how much better the AF system is, and how much room for imprevement there is in the 5DII's AF. Sadly, I firmly believe they Canon will intentionally hobble it to increase separation from the 1D X. Frame rate and build won't be enough, especially if the 5DIII is a high MP camera.

ditto , but i have the 1D mk3 instead of the 7D.

for landscapes I love the 5D 2 and for portraits (except shooting low key studio the AF is horrible) I have found changing the 5D2 to back buttom focus helps alot in being able to get focus lock with the center point using the back button then recompose and shoot only with the normal shutter release. My wife refuses to switch to back button focusing and when i use her 5D2 it frustrates me with the focus on the shutter release because the AF is that bad. Also if you are shooting Manual Focus its a non issue too.
I havent actually tried the 5dmk2 in AI servo yet so not sure how it will perform i'm expecting not well considering it only has 1 focus point worth using.
 
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dilbert said:
I'd like to see the same technology used for the 1DX AF put into the 5D3 - but without cluttering the viewfinder with so many AF points. Just 9 of them that all work 100% all of the time. The 7D AF layout isn't necessary in the 5D series.

Many would, and will likely be disappointed. For one thing, they'll likely use AF point spread as a differentiator. After touting the area coverage on the 1D X (which, although better than the 1DsIII is slightly worse than the 1D IV from a practical standpoint, if not from a mathematical standpoint), I don't expect more spread than on the 5DII.
 
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Yes, so let it be, even with the current AF, let that damned thing have less banding and slightly better DR and keep the AF for the expEnsive cams - having all shots in focus seems to be an expensive and precious gift... Ridiculous marketing strategies ... But neuro is probably right as usual even if he writes things he hopes won't happen - borders superstition almost, this 5D.
I can't trust the Canon AF department either
 
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dilbert said:
I think that you're agreeing with me on the AF point spread. What I'm saying is take the middle 1DX AF sensor and replace the current 9 in the 5D2 with that.

It doesn't really work like that. They'd have to design a while new sensor, which they might. But the spread of the AF points is accomplished by the microlenses over the AF sensor, not the AF sensor itself. When you look at an actual AF sensor, you don't really see the individual AF points. For example, the 7D's AF sensor:

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At first glance it appears to be just one large cluster with two smaller clusters at the sides, such that you might be tempted to think it's the center AF point and the two on either side. But in fact, you're looking at 20 AF points (19 '+' f/5.6 points and one 'x' f/2.8 point superimposed on the center '+' point). The way to interpret this diagram is that each adjacent pair of lines in a horizontal orientation, e.g. — —, represents the horizontal sensor lines of one to three AF points (longer lines contribute to more AF points), each adjacent pair of lines in a vertical orientation represents the vertical lines of one to five AF points (longer lines contribute to more AF points), and the pairs of single diagonal lines represent the center f/2.8 'x' cross-type point.
 
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It looks like most people are pretty damn happy with their 5D2s... There are just some quibbles about the ancient AF system really. Otherwise, fps, ISO, mp... all up to par. Really, if the 5D2 was introduced last year, it would still make sense in the Canon lineup. If the 5D3 is just going to bump up the mp and ISO a bit and largely leave the AF alone, then I say I'd rather wait another year or so and get a 5D that will have a significantly upgraded AF instead of getting one in the next 6 months that upgrades everything just a bit but still leaves me wanting more. And out another $3k lol. What do you think? Is the 5D2 so terrible now that we need an minor upgrade on things we're mostly happy about right now?
 
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handsomerob said:
neuroanatomist said:
I think the 5DII produces wonderful images, and I use it much more often than my 7D. But everytime I use the 7D, I'm struck by how much better the AF system is, and how much room for imprevement there is in the 5DII's AF. Sadly, I firmly believe they Canon will intentionally hobble it to increase separation from the 1D X. Frame rate and build won't be enough, especially if the 5DIII is a high MP camera.

+1 that. Even though many of us expect to see 7D's AF in the 5DIII, Canon is unlikely to offer that. An all 9 cross-type AF as in the 60D seems more likely to be used in the 5DIII, or maybe a completely new AF system, something between 60D's and 7D's AF.

Good grief, I would hope note. Calling the 7D too advanced for the 7D when it's really not half as special as people make it out to be to begin, it's just not 1 series level, at all, and sometimes doesn't even do quite as well as current 5D2 AF, although certainly plenty of times it does. If they stick a half-way between 60D and 7D AF, that would so weak I really might decide to look at Nikon seriously.

Even merely just 7D AF would be pretty weak IMO.

The 1DX adds so many advances they surely wouldn't need to cripple things close ot this much. Heck even 1D4 AF would be a noticeable step down.

Then again, the way Canon has been heading, maybe it will be a crippled 7D AF and a weak 4fps again even if you'd think it'd need atleast 1D3/4 AF and 6fps to match Nikon.
 
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LetTheRightLensIn said:
The 1DX adds so many advances they surely wouldn't need to cripple things close ot this much.

The 1D X adds some nice advances relative to the current 1-series bodies - but note, there is some regression as well - the loss of center point AF with an f/8 lens.
 
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