5DIII/X Kit Lens? (please vote)

Which lens will Canon place into the upcoming 5DIII/X?


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Oh yeah... I am little unclear as to the way some people vote in these polls. And then the way some people read the results...

Do some people read

"What will Canon do with.... blah... blah..." as :
- "What do YOU WANT Canon to do about blah blah" or as
- "What do you think Canon WILL ACTUALLY do about blah blah"

I read them as asking what I think Canon are going to do not what I want them to do.

I have seen people using these pole results to justify positions things such as "Not many people here want a high mp camera because..." and then show a poll result where everybody has ticketed 22mp not 36mp or 45mp when asked "What MP do you think Canon are going to put in the next 5d camera"... Just because people think thats what Canon are going to do it doesnt mean thats what people want them to do...

Anyways... just wondering...
 
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For 'pro' level cameras, I'd much rather see them just offer a fixed percent discount on one lens of your choice with the body.

For example 20% off a 24-70 L II or 20% off a 135 L or 20% off a 50 L or 20% off a 70-200 L II or whatever you want.

Why limit the choice on a body like a 5D3? Anybody buying that body knows what lens they want to get with it.

Or if Canon sees that as too liberal maybe 20% off any lens under $2000 or something along those lines.
 
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skitron said:
For 'pro' level cameras, I'd much rather see them just offer a fixed percent discount on one lens of your choice with the body.

For example 20% off a 24-70 L II or 20% off a 135 L or 20% off a 50 L or 20% off a 70-200 L II or whatever you want.

Why limit the choice on a body like a 5D3? Anybody buying that body knows what lens they want to get with it.

Or if Canon sees that as too liberal maybe 20% off any lens under $2000 or something along those lines.

That would be really awesome, they may run a promo at B&H or something.
 
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The only lens that makes sense would be the 24-105 f/4L IS II. I know there is currently no such thing but I'm banking that it would be announced with the next 5D. I definitely can't see the new 5D getting paired with an old 24-105 or 24-70 and the new 24-70 f/2.8L II seems priced way too high for a kit. That kit would probably be over $5000 right? If I was gonna drop $5000 at once, I'd probably just make do with my 24-70 f/2.8L and fork out the extra $$$ for a 1Dx.
 
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takoman46 said:
the new 24-70 f/2.8L II seems priced way too high for a kit. That kit would probably be over $5000 right? If I was gonna drop $5000 at once, I'd probably just make do with my 24-70 f/2.8L and fork out the extra $$$ for a 1Dx.

Yes. I definitely do not plan on upgrading my 24-70 unless someday it is available for $1600 (right).
 
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I'd love a kit with the 24-70 II, but both the body and the lens would have to become more affordable than they are now.

A 24-105 f/4 II that is sharper and with the newest IS in it would be even nicer.
 
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kbmelb said:
takoman46 said:
the new 24-70 f/2.8L II seems priced way too high for a kit. That kit would probably be over $5000 right? If I was gonna drop $5000 at once, I'd probably just make do with my 24-70 f/2.8L and fork out the extra $$$ for a 1Dx.

Yes. I definitely do not plan on upgrading my 24-70 unless someday it is available for $1600 (right).

Yeah, I feel the same way. I'm still not convinced that the 24-70 II is worth the upgrade from my version I. I think I'll need to wait still someone I know gets one and I can play with for a bit to get a first hand look at the results. It would be awesome if the price drops or a rebate comes out that brings it down to $1600! I'd upgrade at that price in a heartbeat.
 
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Don't think this camera is for newcomers, but for up-graders. It's specialized stuff. Being probably strongly aimed at videographers, a kit lens would not really make sense. Generally, a kit lens is a cheaper grade that allows to grab n' shoot without having to know or think much. Not the case of this mkIII anyway. So, probably body only. Just in case some other brands fan-boys would drool for it but would not be fluent w/ their lens offering, Canon might want to offer a kit with, say, the current 24-105. Reasonably priced and good enough for a mkIII starter.
 
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birtembuk said:
Don't think this camera is for newcomers, but for up-graders.

I'd have bought a 5D2 first, if I could have justified the extra expense (I didn't, so I ended up with the 7D).
But even now, if I get it i'll be "upgrading", but i'll still need a new lens. My 'kit' lens with my 7D was the 15-85, I can't use that on the 5D2/3, my next widest lens is the Samyang 35, so I'd either be looking at the 24-105 for travelling, or keep my 35/50/85/100 prime-set and just go a 16-35 L II (maybe I could be tempted with a 24 L, but i'd rather the zeiss 21 or either TS-E)
 
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I don't like any of those choices; I would almost suspect Canon would come up with a new lens as this camera is so awaited it will attract attention to that new lens. I don't think they would use an older design and the newer ones seem too expensive

Likely they will offer Body only, with a prime and with a zoom
 
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As a kit lens, people want felxibility. So

1) Primes are ruled out.

Also, people starting out photography, even on FF, would like zoom and has less idea about faster aperature. So

2) the 24-105 wins over the 24-70

Finally, as people have pointed out, the 24-70 MKII is too expensive as a kit lens.

3) 24-70 II is ruled out.

This prob leaves a new kit lens. But I dont see why canon needs to release a new lens that havent been mentioned here on the forum. I don't see the 24-105 II. It is quite a recent lens. So either it is the same 24-105 or a completely new zoom lens.
 
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+1 on Body only!

The 24-105 f/4L IS is a bit long in the tooth now...and no sign of a replacement.

The new 24-70mm f/2.8L II is way too pricey...they'd have to discount by 300-400 bucks at least.

Lastly. easier to justify a $2999 price tag if just body only, thus keeping overall cost under psychological 3k
 
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it's very tight in the polls between the 24/105mm f/4 and the 24/70mm f/2.8. II

Regarding the latter, it's difficult to justify an added $1800 for the 24/70mm II which will clearly make the kit over $5200. The 5D2 kit was always around $3400 - so that would nearly be a $2000 jump.

- Ramon
 
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